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2020-10-26T00:05:17 #kisslinux <onodera> im using cock.li lol 2020-10-26T00:05:36 #kisslinux <onodera> as my primary email which is probably kinda retarded since they are down 60% of the time 2020-10-26T00:12:31 #kisslinux <dilynm> midfavila: I think KISS-kde has packaged shared-mime-info? And it might be the case that it was packaged on KISS long, long ago... 2020-10-26T00:17:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> E5ten you were the one that helped with the previous linker error on llvm/clang 2020-10-26T00:17:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> yeah? is there another issue? 2020-10-26T00:18:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> Different project now trying to get a sandbox game called the powder toy to compile 2020-10-26T00:19:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> just was wondering if you could give some insite 2020-10-26T00:19:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> insight* 2020-10-26T00:19:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> I can definitely try, what's the problem? 2020-10-26T00:19:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Fails with undefined symbol for a libary called fftw which I installed from community 2020-10-26T00:20:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> can you send a link to the build log? 2020-10-26T00:20:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://termbin.com/czct 2020-10-26T00:20:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh hold on 2020-10-26T00:20:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Didn't show the linker errors for some reason 2020-10-26T00:21:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> there https://termbin.com/vdt2 2020-10-26T00:29:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> Right now trying the CXXFLAGS="$CXXFLAGS -fPIC" and CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -fPIC" 2020-10-26T00:29:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> Didn't seem to help 2020-10-26T00:31:37 #kisslinux <E5ten> it seems like fftw provides different symbols for different precisions based on the flags it's built with? 2020-10-26T00:31:55 #kisslinux <E5ten> like --enable-single (or --enable-float which is the same thing) will make fftwf_* symbols 2020-10-26T00:32:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha 2020-10-26T00:32:31 #kisslinux <E5ten> looking at the package for archlinux, they build 4 different copies with different precisions (single, double which seems to be default, long double, and quad) 2020-10-26T00:32:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> So maybe I should add --enable-double to the kiss one? 2020-10-26T00:33:26 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think you'd need --enable-single for this to work, --enable-double is default 2020-10-26T00:34:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> but I think doing --enable-single will disable the symbols that are provided from --enable-double? unless arch is doing 4 builds unnecessarily, I think to get all the symbols you'd need 4 libs each compiled with the different precision options 2020-10-26T00:34:14 #kisslinux <E5ten> ridiculous lol 2020-10-26T00:34:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> lol 2020-10-26T00:34:26 #kisslinux <E5ten> but I googled powder toy and fftw and it seems you might be able to disable fftw? 2020-10-26T00:34:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm really 2020-10-26T00:35:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> try using the option "nofft" 2020-10-26T00:35:40 #kisslinux <E5ten> like for the build system 2020-10-26T00:35:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Trying that now 2020-10-26T00:36:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I didn't even notice that if so cause I looked there for a luajit option 2020-10-26T00:38:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> That worked thank you! 2020-10-26T00:39:02 #kisslinux <E5ten> no problem lol, glad it didn't end up being a linker issue cuz that would probably have been a much bigger pain in the ass 2020-10-26T00:39:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah lmao 2020-10-26T00:50:52 #kisslinux <dilynm> fftw is a bitch of a package 2020-10-26T00:51:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> What even is it? 2020-10-26T00:51:03 #kisslinux <dilynm> Building four packages is no exaggeration 2020-10-26T00:51:05 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-kde/blob/master/extra/fftw/build 2020-10-26T00:51:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> It's just a bunch of math libs 2020-10-26T00:51:27 #kisslinux <dilynm> For fast courier transforms 2020-10-26T00:51:34 #kisslinux <dilynm> Fourier* 2020-10-26T00:51:46 #kisslinux <dilynm> Useful for things like audio stuff 2020-10-26T00:52:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gotcha 2020-10-26T00:52:55 #kisslinux <dilynm> But since different audio processors make use of the different precision's, you're left either making four fftw packages or building it four times for a main package :eyeroll: 2020-10-26T00:53:59 #kisslinux <soliwilos> muevoid: wayherb's performance is much better now. :-) 2020-10-26T00:54:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> That's good I was just being stupid 2020-10-26T01:01:14 #kisslinux <muevoid> Again if you ever would like to see something just lmk 2020-10-26T01:03:24 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Thank you, I will keep that in mind. :-) 2020-10-26T13:23:00 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> Can anyone think of some fun workarounds to Firefox not supporting ALSA any more? Like I don't know, making a minimal container that runs firefox in a virtual X session with a pulseaudio server? 2020-10-26T13:23:50 #kisslinux <icy> That sounds too painful to even bother with. 2020-10-26T13:23:56 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> :'( 2020-10-26T13:24:11 #kisslinux <icy> Also woah, they don't support ALSA anymore? 2020-10-26T13:24:14 #kisslinux <icy> That's retarded. 2020-10-26T13:24:40 #kisslinux <icy> Mozilla and making bad decisions. Name a better duo. 2020-10-26T13:25:59 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah it's been over a year now since they "officially" stopped support. people have still been able to compile with alsa enabled since they at least didn't _remove_ code, but it's been getting buggier and buggier 2020-10-26T13:26:09 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i'd check the commit log, find the commit that removed the support and revert it 2020-10-26T13:26:11 #kisslinux <icy> That's rough. 2020-10-26T13:26:55 #kisslinux <icy> Audio on Linux is a shitshow, tbh. 2020-10-26T13:27:10 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> there's probably also patches flying around on the bugtracker or on other distro's repos 2020-10-26T13:27:36 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> icy, it works very well for me since i got rid of pulseaudio :) 2020-10-26T13:27:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://freenode.logbot.info/kisslinux/20200423#c3711184 2020-10-26T13:27:58 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah i've had zero issues with alsa, and i don't have to deal with pulseaudio at all 2020-10-26T13:28:17 #kisslinux <onodera> there is always apulse 2020-10-26T13:28:29 #kisslinux <onodera> whichs translates the pulse calse to alsa ones or something 2020-10-26T13:28:32 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i tried apulse, didn't work for me 2020-10-26T13:28:44 #kisslinux <onodera> though my firefox sound stopped working since a week, anyone else having this problem? 2020-10-26T13:28:58 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> does it inject itself too via LD_PRELOAD like pulseaudio does? 2020-10-26T13:29:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> yeah mine stopped too that's kind of why i was asking. i figured they finally broke support 2020-10-26T13:29:24 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse 2020-10-26T13:29:38 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Sound in Firefox works for me, with only alsa. 2020-10-26T13:29:38 #kisslinux <onodera> i think you can also compile firefox with openbsd's sndio as a last resort 2020-10-26T13:29:45 #kisslinux <icy> How does is stop working all of a sudden? Unless you updated Firefox. 2020-10-26T13:29:52 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> what version firefox, soliwilos? 2020-10-26T13:30:00 #kisslinux <icy> Yeah, I'm on OpenBSD, using sndio. 2020-10-26T13:30:06 #kisslinux <icy> Is sndio ported to Linux? 2020-10-26T13:30:09 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> and yes icy i updated my system which included firefox 2020-10-26T13:30:11 #kisslinux <onodera> I don't know why, it didn't stop for all videos, only for most 2020-10-26T13:30:17 #kisslinux <icy> ominous_anonymou: Ah. 2020-10-26T13:30:22 #kisslinux <onodera> maybe I updated 2020-10-26T13:30:28 #kisslinux <soliwilos> Version 82. 2020-10-26T13:31:00 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> might also be an issue with a alsa-lib update 2020-10-26T13:31:16 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> hm that's the one i installed, i'll try reinstalling 2020-10-26T13:31:19 #kisslinux <icy> Y'all should try this: https://sndio.org/install.html 2020-10-26T13:31:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> shoot i see that amention above but didn't check whether mine got updated sh4rm4^bnc 2020-10-26T13:31:52 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> if you updated firefox AND alsa-lib, it's kinda hard to tell what is actually the issue... 2020-10-26T13:32:06 #kisslinux <icy> Have sndio as a dependency for Firefox, and compile against it. 2020-10-26T13:32:14 #kisslinux <icy> Should justwork. 2020-10-26T13:32:36 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> thanks icy, if reinstall and checking alsa-lib doesn't work i'll try that 2020-10-26T13:33:07 #kisslinux <onodera> btw firefox-bin is gone? 2020-10-26T13:33:29 #kisslinux <soliwilos> My alsa-lib is version 1.2.4 2020-10-26T13:34:32 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> mine is 1.1.8 and it works :) 2020-10-26T13:35:01 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> although with a patch: alsa-lib-1.1.2-avoid_forking.patch 2020-10-26T13:36:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> probably on me for blindly updating 2020-10-26T13:37:12 #kisslinux <konimex> onodera: aye, dylan doesn't provide it anymore 2020-10-26T13:37:34 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> onodera: it appears so. i was enjoying having a rust-free system. :P 2020-10-26T13:38:50 #kisslinux <onodera> yeah I don't care much about firefox but fucking rust 2020-10-26T13:39:15 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> yup 2020-10-26T13:39:37 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ok firefox-bin at 81.0 and alsa-lib at 1.2.4 work. thanks guys 2020-10-26T13:40:12 #kisslinux <icy> Why is Rust so shit 2020-10-26T13:40:42 #kisslinux <icy> Something about the language and its absolutist community that puts me off. 2020-10-26T13:42:04 #kisslinux <konimex> honestly rust might be not so shit if its bootstrap system was more like Go 2020-10-26T13:42:39 #kisslinux <icy> Agreed. 2020-10-26T13:43:29 #kisslinux <onodera> seems like gentoo doesn't provide any alsa patches 2020-10-26T13:43:41 #kisslinux <onodera> though a lot of musl patches that we don't apply... 2020-10-26T13:45:00 #kisslinux <soliwilos> I'm only using the no-gtk2 patch for Firefox. 2020-10-26T13:55:25 #kisslinux <onodera> also this retarded rust shit failed after 40 minutes of compiling 2020-10-26T13:55:30 #kisslinux <onodera> ugggggg 2020-10-26T14:00:33 #kisslinux <icy> lol 2020-10-26T14:00:58 #kisslinux <icy> What's keeping you from using WebKit-based browsers? 2020-10-26T14:03:50 #kisslinux <onodera> not customizable enough 2020-10-26T14:06:15 #kisslinux <icy> I think codebase-wise, and autism-wise, WebKit is probably the best. 2020-10-26T14:07:05 #kisslinux <icy> You can relatively easily write a frontend wrapper around it, or use some existing ones like Epiphany or Midori. 2020-10-26T14:07:14 #kisslinux <icy> Or vimb etc. 2020-10-26T14:12:25 #kisslinux <onodera> i tried most browsers probably 2020-10-26T14:12:31 #kisslinux <onodera> i always end up returning to firefox 2020-10-26T14:15:00 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> you tried palemoon too ? 2020-10-26T14:28:16 #kisslinux <uhrenmacher> join/join #emacs 2020-10-26T14:52:59 #kisslinux <jedavies> Work in progress for anyone interested in KISS with clang/llvm on different architectures: https://www.glasnost.org/ 2020-10-26T15:05:33 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oo thanks jedavies ! 2020-10-26T15:35:44 #kisslinux <micr0> ominous_anonymou: my firefox 82 youtube sound is working fine 2020-10-26T15:36:45 #kisslinux <micr0> as is peertube 2020-10-26T15:40:10 #kisslinux <micr0> onodera care to share the (anki?) cli app to practice japanese in your screenshot? https://i.redd.it/puxe57tylhs41.png 2020-10-26T15:43:00 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> giving up on firefox.. been building src+dependancies for 2hrs+. back to surf. sad to see *-bin gone. :’(. 2020-10-26T15:54:09 #kisslinux <micr0> mcpcpc[m] are you on X or wayland? 2020-10-26T15:54:43 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> micr0: X. been meaning to test out wayland. 2020-10-26T15:57:01 #kisslinux <micr0> mcpcpc[m]: I just did `kiss export firefox` and uploaded it to http://0x0.st/ik_G.gz 2020-10-26T15:57:26 #kisslinux <micr0> sha256sum: 4c27624754d4e12549ec08a4afdef60282c1a2e09ddf523f4fb85450f1551532 firefox#82.0-1.tar.gz 2020-10-26T15:57:50 #kisslinux <micr0> I have only tested it on wayland 2020-10-26T15:59:42 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> micr0: will test it out! tyty! 2020-10-26T16:53:08 #kisslinux <onodera> micro what wm do you use on wayland 2020-10-26T16:53:14 #kisslinux <onodera> or compositor or whatever it is called 2020-10-26T17:15:06 #kisslinux <micr0> onodera sway 2020-10-26T17:15:18 #kisslinux <micr0> i miss subtle though, that was a nice wm back in the day 2020-10-26T17:15:24 #kisslinux <micr0> hikari looks okay to 2020-10-26T17:15:57 #kisslinux <dilynm> It's the best 2020-10-26T17:26:27 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah i have like a never-ending list of improvements to workflow etc, trying out hikari is kinda lower on that list 2020-10-26T17:27:12 #kisslinux <micr0> by the time evening rolls around i just wanna play videogames 2020-10-26T17:34:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> Anyone have luck getting LXAppearance running? I can configure and compile it just fine, but when running (even a debug-enabled copy) there's no output and the program appears to "exit" successfully without anything happening 2020-10-26T17:51:51 #kisslinux <onodera> is there an st like terminal for wayland 2020-10-26T17:55:25 #kisslinux <jedavies> Have been using foot recently instead of alacritty on wayland. At least it doesn't require rust to build! 2020-10-26T17:55:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> I wonder if they've started including Rust in the kernel yet... 2020-10-26T17:56:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> that would be annoying 2020-10-26T17:59:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> Isn't it in next? 2020-10-26T17:59:50 #kisslinux <dilynm> Wayst is an st for Wayland 2020-10-26T18:00:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> I haven't checked. I normally run stable kernels 2020-10-26T18:00:46 #kisslinux <midfavila> if they __do__ introduce Rust, I'm going to seriously consider HyperbolaBSD for my main PC once it releases 2020-10-26T18:05:44 #kisslinux <soliwilos> I quite like wayst. 2020-10-26T18:14:26 #kisslinux <micr0> onodera i would second foot being a good alternative to alacritty 2020-10-26T18:15:26 #kisslinux <micr0> I don't care what language the developers of my kernel use, as I'm not really planning on contributing to said kernel in my lifetime 2020-10-26T18:18:47 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i would care if it made the compile time a lot longer 2020-10-26T18:19:50 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> building new versions of rust is already horrendously long and forces me to up my KISS VM's RAM to 4GB+ or it shits the bed. i'd lose my mind if the kernel did the same. 2020-10-26T18:21:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> :^) 2020-10-26T18:22:58 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah if you are upgrading your kernel a lot and don't like to wait that would be annoying. I also doubt kernel devs would incorporate rust if build times swelled to even 2x what it is now, let alone what I would expect to be more. 2020-10-26T18:28:07 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> Rust into the kernel? what a shit 2020-10-26T18:30:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> just wait until systemd integrates Linux as a module 2020-10-26T18:30:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> systemd-linuxd 2020-10-26T18:31:32 #kisslinux <dilynm> Luckily the kernel devs have evaded that so far 2020-10-26T18:31:41 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm calling it rn 2020-10-26T18:40:19 #kisslinux <micr0> any reason my laptop would not respond to ping by default? 2020-10-26T18:47:19 #kisslinux <onodera> eh can't be bothered to learn all this new stuff 2020-10-26T18:47:24 #kisslinux <onodera> ill stick to X for the next few year 2020-10-26T18:48:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm considering switching back to vim but one thing I really like from emacs is the subscript and superscript characters when there are multiple of them they actually look like one number for example 22 but in vim it will look like two seperate twos next to each other. 2020-10-26T19:43:18 #kisslinux <soliwilos> micr0: ping replies can be disabled by sysctl, if net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all is set to 1, but I think the default should be 0. 2020-10-26T19:51:55 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> soliwilos: oh. this is a useful tidbit. 2020-10-26T21:08:29 #kisslinux <dilynm> The Makefiles automake generates are disgusting 2020-10-26T22:31:17 #kisslinux <E5ten> @freenode_dylanaraps:matrix.org: for replacing nftw with something fully POSIX, I've got this http://ix.io/2C98, it's probably got some problems, and definitely needs some cleanup because I adapted it from something else I used (e.g., the return values are pretty useless in present state), but it's a start I think 2020-10-26T22:34:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> might be better to use scandir instead of readdir so it's done alphabetically 2020-10-26T22:35:22 #kisslinux <mcf> E5ten: one thing you could do is use openat and fdopendir to avoid path allocation and construction 2020-10-26T22:35:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> and probably you could do something like passing dirfd's instead of pathnames, and using fdopendir instead of opendir, fstatat instead of lstat, unlinkat instead of remove, to avoid having to allocate and construct a full path for each time 2020-10-26T22:35:37 #kisslinux <mcf> heh 2020-10-26T22:35:42 #kisslinux <E5ten> lol 2020-10-26T22:38:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> oh there is an issue though, apparently you can't safely use the fd you pass to fdopendir after the fdopendir call? so you wouldn't be able to use that fd for fstatat and unlinkat? 2020-10-26T22:39:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> or actually, the dirfd man page says you can use the internal fd used by the DIR for stuff that doesn't depend on/alter the file position, like fstat, so maybe you can still use the fd? 2020-10-26T22:42:05 #kisslinux <mcf> yeah, i would assume that using the fd for *at functions do not "modify the state of the associated description" 2020-10-26T22:44:00 #kisslinux <E5ten> yeah but I just don't know if being allowed to do that for dirfd's return means you're also allowed to do it with the fd you pass to fdopendir 2020-10-26T22:45:33 #kisslinux <mcf> fdopendir only prohibits closing the fd or modifying the state of the state of the associated description (other than functions that act on the DIR) 2020-10-26T22:45:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> ah ok, but looking at the POSIX man page instead of the linux one, I think it seems like you can do that, cuz that man page doesn't say you're not allowed to do anything with the fd, just not allowed to modify (like you just said) 2020-10-26T22:46:08 #kisslinux <E5ten> the "but" at the beginning there is in response to my last message not yours to be clear 2020-10-26T22:53:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> mcf: what would I use instead of "remove(path)" at the end of the function? 2020-10-26T22:54:42 #kisslinux <E5ten> actually that's kind of a problem, because there's probably issues with removing the dir before doing closedir, but after closedir, the dirfd is invalid 2020-10-26T22:55:47 #kisslinux <E5ten> would unlinkat with the dirfd, "." as pathname, and AT_REMOVEDIR work? 2020-10-26T22:56:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think probably not 2020-10-26T23:02:35 #kisslinux <mcf> oh, hmm. this reminds me of a musl thread a while ago: https://inbox.vuxu.org/musl/20191121175418.GI4262⊙me/T/ 2020-10-26T23:05:13 #kisslinux <E5ten> hmmm 2020-10-26T23:05:44 #kisslinux <E5ten> wouldn't a kernel issue like that probably also affect nftw (which I'm guessing probably uses the dirent stuff)? 2020-10-26T23:06:27 #kisslinux <mcf> well, i think this was just an issue for buggy filesystems 2020-10-26T23:06:35 #kisslinux <E5ten> I see 2020-10-26T23:10:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> I assume given that you maintain sbase and recommended the dirfd approach that sbase also uses dirfds and *at functions, how does it deal with deleting the top-level dir? 2020-10-26T23:11:10 #kisslinux <E5ten> for subdirs, I think since I have the dirfd and the file name, I can just unlinkat them after calling rm_rf on them (within rm_rf), but I'm not really sure how to delete the top-level dir 2020-10-26T23:11:58 #kisslinux <mcf> i don't quite understand how the subdirs is different from the top-level dir. could you paste what you have so far? 2020-10-26T23:13:18 #kisslinux <E5ten> in a second yeah, but what I mean is that for deleting subdirs, I can do it outside the rm_rf on that subdir, like higher level rm_rf calls rm_rf on a subdir, and then deletes the subdir (so the rm_rf on the subdir itself doesn't delete it). what I'd really want is the rm_rf call to delete the subdir itself, and if it did that there'd be no difference from subdirs and top dir 2020-10-26T23:14:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2C9n I haven't tested this one yet (I did with the non-dirfd one), and it won't even compile because there's still remove(path) at the end, because I don't know how to delete the dir after going through it, so it's a placeholder 2020-10-26T23:15:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> also the openat call should probably have O_DIRECTORY or something 2020-10-26T23:16:05 #kisslinux <mcf> it could also have O_SEARCH 2020-10-26T23:16:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> actually, maybe that'd mean I don't need the fstatat, because if I openat with O_DIRECTORY, and errno is whatever value means "not a directory" I treat it as a file, and if not I call rm_rf on it 2020-10-26T23:16:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> I don't see that in the open man page? 2020-10-26T23:18:47 #kisslinux <mcf> i'd move the openat to start of rm_rf, and make it take a *parent* dir fd and a name of a subdirectory to remove. then at the end you do unlinkat(parentfd, name) 2020-10-26T23:19:26 #kisslinux <E5ten> so I'd use fdopendir on the result of the openat at the beginning? 2020-10-26T23:19:34 #kisslinux <mcf> yeah 2020-10-26T23:20:55 #kisslinux <E5ten> and I guess for top-level I'd pass AT_FDCWD as the parent dir fd? or maybe to make the API simpler and not reliant on AT_* it could take a negative value for the parent dir fd, and if that happens use AT_FDCWD for the openat 2020-10-26T23:21:37 #kisslinux <mcf> yeah, whatever you prefer 2020-10-26T23:38:23 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2C9s haven't tested it very thoroughly, but it does seem to work 2020-10-26T23:39:21 #kisslinux <E5ten> very likely needs at least more cleanup, if not important fixes/changes 2020-10-26T23:42:35 #kisslinux <E5ten> possible thing that could need fixing, since this is supposed to be like rm -rf, could need to fchmodat on files without write perms 2020-10-26T23:48:18 #kisslinux <E5ten> hmm and since the use of nftw in k uses FTW_MOUNT, I might want to save the .st_dev of the top-level dir somehow and make sure it's the same for each file I fstatat, and if it's different bail or skip