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2020-08-31T01:08:14 #kisslinux <micr0> sls is really nice
2020-08-31T04:22:06 #kisslinux <hyf> creeper?
2020-08-31T04:41:17 #kisslinux <dilynm> Xorg segfaulting inspired me to commit to Wayland. I got hikari to build and run!
2020-08-31T04:41:58 #kisslinux <dilynm> So now we can play with Wayland I guess
2020-08-31T05:54:28 #kisslinux <humaid_01> Hello
2020-08-31T05:56:31 #kisslinux <humaid_01> It's been 3 months. How are you dylan?
2020-08-31T05:59:43 #kisslinux <humaid_01> Do you guys know how to update packages without having to enter password every few minutes, since it's a pain to stay in front of the laptop for that?
2020-08-31T06:00:29 #kisslinux <dilynm> Are you using sudo or doas?
2020-08-31T06:01:04 #kisslinux <humaid_01> sudo
2020-08-31T06:04:25 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://lifehacker.com/make-sudo-sessions-last-longer-in-linux-1221545774
2020-08-31T06:04:34 #kisslinux <dilynm> Would lengthen the timeout option
2020-08-31T06:05:15 #kisslinux <humaid_01> Thanks
2020-08-31T06:09:04 #kisslinux <dilynm> Yeah! It's not possible with doas :'(
2020-08-31T06:16:05 #kisslinux <humaid_01> I changed it to 30, but the update will take longer than that, so the prompt might come while I'm napping. I'm not sure it's okay to change it to more than that.
2020-08-31T06:17:13 #kisslinux <humaid_01> I wonder why the package manager ask every time and not one time?
2020-08-31T08:48:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> humaid_01: The package manager runs as a normal user and must ask for root permissions for package installation. There's no reliable way to run as root and then /drop/ permissions though I'm open to trying to tackle this problem again.
2020-08-31T10:30:40 #kisslinux <humaid_01> dylanaraps: understood. thanks. If there is a workaround I'll be happy.
2020-08-31T12:06:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Has anyone here tried playing dvds with mpv? I have it where it will play the dvd but no sound from mpv
2020-08-31T12:52:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> exit
2020-08-31T16:25:36 #kisslinux <periish> Hi! I was Hi! I was wondering if anyone was using s6 on KISS.
2020-08-31T16:26:04 #kisslinux <periish> I haven't found any evidence of it in the repositories I know of, and I'm curious to see what people are using.
2020-08-31T16:37:20 #kisslinux <micr0> how do i change the hardlimit with ulimit without pam?
2020-08-31T17:01:24 #kisslinux <micr0> for anyone looking to raise the hardlimit using ulimit, without pam or systemd:
2020-08-31T17:01:43 #kisslinux <micr0> sls -c sh -c "ulimit -n 65535 && exec su -l $LOGNAME"
2020-08-31T17:02:07 #kisslinux <micr0> the followup question is, can ulimit be set globally with busybox sv init or inittab...
2020-08-31T17:21:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: the shellcheck disables in the scripts that got that CRUX change can be removed I think? Cuz now it's just cmd || block not cmd1 && cmd2 || block
2020-08-31T19:04:22 #kisslinux <onodera> Is there an easy way to see the permissions of a file?
2020-08-31T19:04:26 #kisslinux <onodera> numerically
2020-08-31T19:04:36 #kisslinux <onodera> not like "r-w-r-w" or something
2020-08-31T19:19:16 #kisslinux <aarng> onodera: try `stat -c %a <file>`
2020-08-31T19:19:28 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks!
2020-08-31T19:19:32 #kisslinux <aarng> throw a %n in there too if you want the filename
2020-08-31T21:29:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> illiliti: maybe for sls instead of having -s you could take no arguments (and no conflicting flags) to mean interactive shell? like how just running "su" makes a shell
2020-08-31T21:49:21 #kisslinux <illiliti> E5ten: maybe.. maybe. doas and sudo uses -s to run shell
2020-08-31T21:49:36 #kisslinux <illiliti> i think that -s flag prevents user from mistype
2020-08-31T21:55:11 #kisslinux <illiliti> parsing args is really horrible in C lol
2020-08-31T21:56:44 #kisslinux <illiliti> i'm not surprised why most of software ended up using libraries or their own implementation
2020-08-31T21:59:49 #kisslinux <illiliti> http://git.suckless.org/sbase/file/arg.h.html#l12
2020-08-31T22:10:07 #kisslinux <E5ten> if I need short opts I'd usually use arg.h, if I need longopts, to avoid non-POSIX getopt_long I use https://github.com/skeeto/optparse
2020-08-31T22:42:13 #kisslinux <onodera> does anyone know how I can save alsa volume after reboot?
2020-08-31T22:42:29 #kisslinux <ax> alsactl store
2020-08-31T22:42:34 #kisslinux <ax> good evening.
2020-08-31T22:44:10 #kisslinux <ax> I did not understand what the problem is lately, I read late, causes of force majeure.  Can you explain the libcap question to me?
2020-08-31T22:45:15 #kisslinux <ax> dropping? what is it?
2020-08-31T22:46:43 #kisslinux <onodera> ax: where would I put this
2020-08-31T22:46:46 #kisslinux <onodera> to make it run auto
2020-08-31T22:47:26 #kisslinux <onodera> i have this line in `rc.d/alsa.post.shutdown` atm, and `also.boot`
2020-08-31T22:47:32 #kisslinux <onodera> but it gives me some error during boot....
2020-08-31T22:48:03 #kisslinux <ax> adam shaefers give up work?  I'm not understanding
2020-08-31T22:49:11 #kisslinux <illiliti> onodera: mv /etc/rc.d/alsa.post.shutdown /etc/rc.d/alsa.pre.shutdown
2020-08-31T22:49:12 #kisslinux <ax> onodera: su - / yourpass / alsactl store
2020-08-31T22:49:25 #kisslinux <ax> after reboot no problem.
2020-08-31T22:49:49 #kisslinux <ax> or you can use your setting in rc.d
2020-08-31T22:50:12 #kisslinux <onodera> i'll try thanks!
2020-08-31T22:50:23 #kisslinux <onodera> Command line: 䥋卓䰠湩硵
2020-08-31T22:50:23 #kisslinux <onodera> Linux version 5.8.3-zen1-punpun (root@KISS) (gcc (GCC) 10.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.35) #3 ZEN SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 24 22:00:28 CEST 2020
2020-08-31T22:50:33 #kisslinux <onodera> what  the hell is this chinese doing in my dmesg lmao
2020-08-31T22:50:40 #kisslinux <onodera> it's the second line
2020-08-31T22:52:14 #kisslinux <ax> chinese l33t ... awesome ... so airy
2020-08-31T22:53:36 #kisslinux <ax> but no one answered me, I don't know, maybe it will be time ... maybe someone is abandoning us and asking to take charge of his packages?  is this community PR?
2020-08-31T22:57:56 #kisslinux <j`ey> if you mean https://github.com/kisslinux/community/issues/1165 yes he is giving up maintainenance
2020-08-31T23:02:00 #kisslinux <ax> j`ey: I mean exactly that as said by my previous thought a few months ago, things must be updated when they have security problems or bugs and not necessarily the latest release available, especially on something that is born to be optimal and dynamic and not always updated regardless
2020-08-31T23:02:22 #kisslinux <j`ey> someone still has to take over the packages
2020-08-31T23:04:49 #kisslinux <ax> I have seen and obviously I will not take any.  My behind source must be stable and this means that it cannot be ultra-updated by default.  otherwise I wouldn't use a distro source
2020-08-31T23:05:30 #kisslinux <ax> but this is my thought, and the question always hangs in the balance with Dylan's thought ... therefore.  that's fine.
2020-08-31T23:05:48 #kisslinux <j`ey> ok, I get that, just don't see how it related to your question about them
2020-08-31T23:06:15 #kisslinux <ax> if I want a Rolling I will definitely not use a basic source.  for my purposes.
2020-08-31T23:07:03 #kisslinux <ax> I just wanted to understand the reason for the PR. now I understand.
2020-08-31T23:09:00 #kisslinux <j`ey> you can always make a fork, and just update slower
2020-08-31T23:09:43 #kisslinux <ax> I think that the pressure on the maintenance of the packages is useless and futile to the maintenance of the stability and of the system itself, probably also pushes to quit after a certain amount of time
2020-08-31T23:11:21 #kisslinux <ax> no thanks, I prefer to participate in the project of many.  Even if it comes from one person, I don't need personal glory.  mine is a thought
2020-08-31T23:12:13 #kisslinux <ax> I already made my distro at the time and I already understood the importance of the community :)
2020-08-31T23:13:05 #kisslinux <ax> okay, thanks for the clarifications, see you tomorrow.  good night *
2020-08-31T23:23:24 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> idk. i don’t understand the “pressure” part.  everyone has the freedom to maintain as many packages as they desire.  plus, there has been (to a degree) a tolerance for outdated packages. shrug
2020-08-31T23:24:41 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> idk. my experience is limited. i’ve been here 3mo, so i definitely lack the background
2020-08-31T23:53:40 #kisslinux <E5ten> mcpcpc: that int len = strlen thing in kirc should be size_t, cuz that's what strlen returns
2020-08-31T23:54:36 #kisslinux <lolisamurai[m]> ye theres no pressure, if you look at projects like void random people will PR updates to your packages even if you don't actively maintain them
2020-08-31T23:54:59 #kisslinux <lolisamurai[m]> someone that uses that package will care if you stop caring