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2020-07-09T00:02:34 #kisslinux <mike> how am I doing this right?
2020-07-09T00:02:40 #kisslinux <mike> this is my first time on irc
2020-07-09T00:04:34 #kisslinux * xzcvczx gives mike a cookie
2020-07-09T00:05:13 #kisslinux <mike> Well, can I ignore the nouveau failed to load firmware error message, or is it serious?
2020-07-09T00:06:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> mike: what nvidia card you got?
2020-07-09T00:06:18 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> a lot of the newer ones require firmware for a fair chunk of stuff iirc
2020-07-09T00:06:30 #kisslinux <mike> I got a gtx 1070
2020-07-09T00:06:54 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> maybe try googling that + nouveau + firmware
2020-07-09T00:06:57 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and see what pops up
2020-07-09T00:06:59 #kisslinux <mike> Thanks
2020-07-09T00:07:02 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> likely arch or gentoo
2020-07-09T00:07:11 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> site swill give more/better information
2020-07-09T00:20:12 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Anyone on hand know if the KISS_HOOK script is run as the user or root?
2020-07-09T00:21:00 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Guess I could just check the kiss script, I wanted to look in there for something anyway
2020-07-09T00:22:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> probably root
2020-07-09T00:22:13 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> wouldn't be much point in running as user for a lot of things
2020-07-09T00:22:52 #kisslinux <himmalerin> that's what I'm hoping
2020-07-09T00:24:01 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> wooo finally looks like i got vtk building
2020-07-09T00:35:14 #kisslinux <himmalerin> vtk?
2020-07-09T00:35:26 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> a behemoth of an abomination
2020-07-09T00:35:30 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but required for freecad
2020-07-09T00:42:09 #kisslinux <himmalerin> oooh, fancy!
2020-07-09T00:42:59 #kisslinux <himmalerin> my shell-fu isn't strong enough to figure out whether it's run as root, I'll just echo the $USER and see who it is when it gets run
2020-07-09T00:43:18 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> why not just run whoami
2020-07-09T00:43:50 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> or id
2020-07-09T00:46:11 #kisslinux <himmalerin> that's probably easier
2020-07-09T00:47:40 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> there are a few things i believe don't change when run under sudo/doas
2020-07-09T00:47:47 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and i am not sure if $USER is one of htem
2020-07-09T00:48:19 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah, doas echo $USER == user not root
2020-07-09T00:48:59 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> whereas whoami/id return root
2020-07-09T00:56:59 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> gah wtf, builds fine outside of package manager, dies building inside it
2020-07-09T00:57:14 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i HATE cmake
2020-07-09T00:58:07 #kisslinux <himmalerin> cmake says the feeling is mutual
2020-07-09T00:58:41 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> well cmakes just a male reproductive organ
2020-07-09T01:01:51 #kisslinux <himmalerin> hmm, not sure how you're supposed to use the post-install hook. When using sudo the stuff in /etc/profile.d/ doesn't get sourced
2020-07-09T01:02:13 #kisslinux <himmalerin> doesn't even look like /etc/profile gets sourced, not sure where it gets the PATH from then though
2020-07-09T01:02:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> well it should use the existing crap
2020-07-09T01:02:37 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> as in what you had in the parent shell
2020-07-09T01:02:57 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> if you run sh -l it will load the current profile
2020-07-09T01:03:11 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and then if you then run it it should be using whats in the profile
2020-07-09T01:03:30 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> see difference between 'su' and 'su -' for example
2020-07-09T01:03:33 #kisslinux <himmalerin> sudo env doesn't print out a KISS_PATH even after completely logging out/in, not even the default KISS_PATH root gets
2020-07-09T01:03:47 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I think for the env to get passed in you need sudo -e
2020-07-09T01:05:16 #kisslinux <himmalerin> output of `sudo env` is http://ix.io/2reD
2020-07-09T01:06:51 #kisslinux <himmalerin> just `env` is http://ix.io/2reE
2020-07-09T01:07:00 #kisslinux <himmalerin> which is much different
2020-07-09T01:07:21 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> my mistake
2020-07-09T01:08:29 #kisslinux <himmalerin> which makes it rather difficult to use any of the -install hooks. I'll have to ask Dylan about it next time he's online
2020-07-09T01:09:11 #kisslinux <himmalerin> It was my plan to make a snapshot during post-install to "make a save" so to speak prior to any updates
2020-07-09T01:14:40 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I wonder if the end result will be just sudo --preserve-env=KISS_HOOK
2020-07-09T01:14:54 #kisslinux * xzcvczx summons dylanaraps to the field
2020-07-09T01:25:52 #kisslinux <mike> the issue was that I didn't install xf86-video-nouveau
2020-07-09T01:25:56 #kisslinux <mike> ez fix
2020-07-09T01:28:17 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah
2020-07-09T01:56:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilynm: krita, py-qt5, cmake. All the 3 words in this patch. Have you seen this?
2020-07-09T01:56:37 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/krita
2020-07-09T02:08:18 #kisslinux <dilynm> Why is it that every time I fail to solve an issue I'm having it's because I didn't bother checking for patches or GitHub issues
2020-07-09T02:08:27 #kisslinux <dilynm> I'll give it a test Claudia thanks <3
2020-07-09T02:09:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> dilynm: just sing "blame claudia :P"
2020-07-09T02:35:59 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilynm: I am just snoopin around: https://github.com/openbsd/ports/blob/b5b5a152cadfe9dda199f1b12520bc1f9d7ecb3b/graphics/krita/Makefile#L110
2020-07-09T02:37:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> Why would they bother disabling optional packages
2020-07-09T02:37:54 #kisslinux <dilynm> That seems silly
2020-07-09T04:56:00 #kisslinux <himmalerin> No automatic btrfs snapshotting yet (need to talk to Dylan about that) but I took one manually and restored to it, so that's cool
2020-07-09T10:37:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: Regarding netsurf-fb: I have trouble starting it on a tty -> Canot initialize video device. On wayland it has no keyboard input. How is that on your side?
2020-07-09T12:08:43 #kisslinux <jedavies> claudia02: now getting incorrect checksum for xxd.c?
2020-07-09T12:28:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: I can reproduce. Do you get this? c3ff5f0afc4a9615a2a2ce6b0f0d266397fa3dab3e3ec431564a811df8fba0ad
2020-07-09T12:35:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> Yesterday they were ok?. At least kiss did not complain. Hm
2020-07-09T13:01:59 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah I get c3ff5f0afc4a9615a2a2ce6b0f0d266397fa3dab3e3ec431564a811df8fba0ad
2020-07-09T13:16:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: Should be good now.
2020-07-09T14:08:26 #kisslinux <jedavies> claudia02: now builds OK for me once I tweaked the arch in PERL5LIB. Rebuilding sway now, will test once that's done.
2020-07-09T14:54:40 #kisslinux <psyco> halo
2020-07-09T14:59:13 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ewwww qt5-webengine requires python2
2020-07-09T15:17:06 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> <xzcvczx "ewwww qt5-webengine requires pyt"> eww why
2020-07-09T15:21:10 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> because its python2
2020-07-09T15:21:27 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> its EOL'd and qt5-webengine 5.15.0 came out after said EOL
2020-07-09T15:21:37 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> yeah ik i was saying why does it depend on it
2020-07-09T15:21:43 #kisslinux <djt3[m]>  * yeah ik i was saying why does it have to depend on it
2020-07-09T15:21:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah ok
2020-07-09T15:22:21 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i assumed you just lacked sanity and logic
2020-07-09T15:22:26 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> lmao :)
2020-07-09T16:30:25 #kisslinux <dilynm> xzcvzx: qt6 is set to come out at the end of the year so hopefully they'll have fixed that little problem
2020-07-09T16:33:46 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> dilynm: yeah #fuckqt6
2020-07-09T16:34:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i believe qt6 won't be out for non-commerical for 12mos after the end of hte year
2020-07-09T16:37:24 #kisslinux <dilynm> I mean at the very least 6 would be available on GitHub and it wouldn't be took hard to convert our build scripts to use that if they do something boneheaded like that
2020-07-09T16:37:32 #kisslinux <dilynm> I'm sorry worried about libressl support (:
2020-07-09T16:37:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> s/sorry/worried
2020-07-09T16:37:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> Just** Jesus
2020-07-09T16:43:16 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Qt-Might-Restrict-New-Releases
2020-07-09T16:43:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> in which case it might be the end of next year
2020-07-09T16:56:59 #kisslinux <dilynm> "But even if these negotiations were to be unilaterally stopped by The Qt Company, Qt will stay Open Source" from the linked mailing list
2020-07-09T16:57:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> So we shouldn't have to worry... Too much
2020-07-09T16:57:38 #kisslinux <dilynm> We already do the labor that many Linux distributions have avoided (building qt* from scratch), so I don't see this as a technical problem
2020-07-09T17:00:17 #kisslinux <dilynm> But that's one mighty expensive license. $500 for small businesses? Crazy
2020-07-09T17:02:54 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah they are insane
2020-07-09T17:46:08 #kisslinux <himmalerin> For the latest version of the package manager would you say merging or rebasing is better? or ff only?
2020-07-09T18:04:47 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> dylan, are you thinking of changing the way that the community repo is managed? i would imagine that as more packages are added the manual approval of all updates is more effort than its worth for you. how about something like the aur, but new packages require manual checks before being added?
2020-07-09T18:10:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-07-09T18:10:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I worked on this today: https://git.k1ss.org/
2020-07-09T18:11:47 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Oooh, is that what I think it is?
2020-07-09T18:12:03 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> thats cool :)
2020-07-09T18:12:39 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Sort of removes the "no infra" side of things (I imagine anyway) but I like that a lot
2020-07-09T18:13:03 #kisslinux <merakor> Nice!
2020-07-09T18:13:09 #kisslinux <merakor> I love stagit
2020-07-09T18:14:00 #kisslinux <dilynm> Mmmm I love that
2020-07-09T18:14:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> himmalerin: Well, this will just mirror from GitHub, it won't replace it.
2020-07-09T18:14:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's not "required" if that makes sense.
2020-07-09T18:14:26 #kisslinux <merakor> Carbs had a stagit server that mirrored to github
2020-07-09T18:14:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I just wanted the sources in a secondary place in case GitHub goes down (outages, etc).
2020-07-09T18:15:04 #kisslinux <himmalerin> yeah that's fair. GitHub sure has had a lot of those recently
2020-07-09T18:15:11 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah it occurs quite a lot lately
2020-07-09T18:15:21 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Would the server mind if I pulled from there instead of github? :p
2020-07-09T18:15:24 #kisslinux <merakor> I was thinking of switching back to it as weşş
2020-07-09T18:15:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It would not. Pull all you like.
2020-07-09T18:15:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Note: It's not 100% ready yet.
2020-07-09T18:15:37 #kisslinux <merakor> Well*
2020-07-09T18:15:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll let you guys know when it's ready for use.
2020-07-09T18:16:01 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Gotcha, I'll wait for that then
2020-07-09T18:16:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I still need to setup the mirroring. Once that's done, it'll be good to go.
2020-07-09T18:16:15 #kisslinux <merakor> I would love to help if you'd want Dylan
2020-07-09T18:16:43 #kisslinux <merakor> I also have a script that kind of automates stagit stuff
2020-07-09T18:16:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That'd be great. How'd you do the mirroring btw?
2020-07-09T18:17:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have to go, I'll be on in a few hours. o/
2020-07-09T18:17:10 #kisslinux <merakor> https://git.ckyln.com/git-server
2020-07-09T18:17:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-07-09T18:17:36 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Dang, was about to ask for help with $KISS_HOOK
2020-07-09T18:17:39 #kisslinux <himmalerin> maybe next time
2020-07-09T18:18:32 #kisslinux <merakor> I do mirroring post-receive, I set all mirrors in, well, a file called 'mirrors'
2020-07-09T18:19:36 #kisslinux <merakor> It reads that file and does 'git push --mirror $url'
2020-07-09T18:28:06 #kisslinux * xzcvczx shoots cmake,
2020-07-09T18:30:42 #kisslinux <mike26> hi, i'm the same mike from yesterday
2020-07-09T18:30:50 #kisslinux <mike26> I didn't set a password
2020-07-09T18:30:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> no, you are +26
2020-07-09T18:31:06 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> mike26: a root password?
2020-07-09T18:31:14 #kisslinux <mike26> no, I didn't set an irc password
2020-07-09T18:31:21 #kisslinux <mike26> I was using freenode
2020-07-09T18:31:21 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh
2020-07-09T18:31:37 #kisslinux <mike26> I also didn't set a password for this one
2020-07-09T18:31:48 #kisslinux <mike26> anyway, no screens found
2020-07-09T18:32:35 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Can't remember, are you the person who was having issues with the nvidia card?
2020-07-09T18:33:32 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> 1/26th of mike26 was
2020-07-09T18:34:05 #kisslinux <mike26> yes, I had a gtx 1070 and I had firmware issue thing
2020-07-09T18:34:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> do you have the required modules/things built into kernel?
2020-07-09T18:35:06 #kisslinux <mike26> ye, nouveau is in kernel
2020-07-09T18:35:15 #kisslinux <mike26> amd iommu and iommu v2 is enabled
2020-07-09T18:35:25 #kisslinux <mike26> those are usually the main 2 things, especially on gentoo
2020-07-09T18:37:13 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> are you using default xorg config or have you modified it?
2020-07-09T18:38:58 #kisslinux <mike26> default
2020-07-09T18:40:58 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> look in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
2020-07-09T18:41:06 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> there might be a relevant file you have to modify
2020-07-09T18:42:52 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> well copy to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/... and modify
2020-07-09T19:00:02 #kisslinux <mike26> ye, I copied it, but the only thing in it is libinput
2020-07-09T19:02:53 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> the only other thing i can guess is if you have multiple outputs are you on the right one for first
2020-07-09T19:36:19 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> an idea i had for the package manager is option patches, for example so you can update programs like dwm and st whilst keeping your config, or for patches like libxft-brga that add emoji support to xorg, it would be nice to have them as an option when installing the packages
2020-07-09T19:38:20 #kisslinux <admicos> you should be able to patch packages before installation using KISS_HOOK
2020-07-09T19:38:41 #kisslinux <admicos> i've been thinking of making a utility for it, but I'm not using kiss right now
2020-07-09T19:39:00 #kisslinux <djt3[m]> yeah but i mean so that you could list available patches for each package
2020-07-09T19:51:31 #kisslinux <dilynm> That just seems like an overreach and disabuses the philosophy behind the package manager
2020-07-09T20:02:54 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> I think the way portage handles it is pretty nice
2020-07-09T20:03:53 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> /etc/portage/category/packagename/config.h and /etc/portage/category/packagename/01-patch-for-xyz.patch
2020-07-09T21:14:02 #kisslinux <himmalerin> dylan where are youuuu
2020-07-09T21:14:09 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I think he avoids me :p
2020-07-09T23:15:12 #kisslinux <ectlunya> vitorhugo: this is already what kiss does