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2020-04-25T01:20:53 #kisslinux <claudia> I have hacked the xbpsUI.sh and filled it with some kiss commands
2020-04-25T01:20:55 #kisslinux <claudia> https://u.teknik.io/lQy2y.png
2020-04-25T01:21:20 #kisslinux <claudia> its not pretty on the inside but works fairly well
2020-04-25T01:23:40 #kisslinux <claudia> https://u.teknik.io/MJmN1.png
2020-04-25T02:16:33 #kisslinux <eyeyouyouknow> does firefox-bin in kiss repos come with flash?
2020-04-25T02:17:12 #kisslinux <eyeyouyouknow> and/or is there anything preventing me from installing it myself if no?
2020-04-25T02:32:14 #kisslinux <konimex> dilynm: no, that's hyperbola
2020-04-25T02:42:22 #kisslinux <konimex> buuuut I can definitely see hyperbola going worse, looking at their association with Pale "You will revise your mozconfig" Moon
2020-04-25T02:44:16 #kisslinux <dilynm> claudia: that looks awesome
2020-04-25T06:14:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> claudia: Fixed ostree, thanks.
2020-04-25T06:16:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> constptr: KISS defaults to busybox init + busybox runit. Busybox also provides its own compatible implementation of runit (more or less of course). runit is also in community for those wanting to use the "real thing". S6/66 are also easy: https://forum.obarun.org/viewtopic.php?pid=4695#p4695
2020-04-25T06:16:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's not a matter of "Does KISS support <insert_init_here>?
2020-04-25T06:16:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> KISS supports anything you like
2020-04-25T06:16:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> Defaults are just that
2020-04-25T06:16:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> ... defautls
2020-04-25T06:16:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> defaults*
2020-04-25T06:21:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> kiedtl: I do not. Strictly speaking, I am optional. Your options are to either (in this scenario) 1. Maintain your system yourself. 2. 'git remote set-url' to another remote. 3. Wait.
2020-04-25T06:51:02 #kisslinux <dylan02> What's the difference between: '-rwSr-xr-x' and '-rwsr-xr-x'?
2020-04-25T06:51:43 #kisslinux <dylan02> nvm
2020-04-25T07:12:26 #kisslinux <dylan02> OK
2020-04-25T07:12:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> Pushed kiss with no rsync to repos.
2020-04-25T08:10:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have enabled acpid via ln -s /etc/sv/acpid /var/service however I still cannot do acpi_listen
2020-04-25T09:22:09 #kisslinux <dylan02> muevoid: There are two acpid's. busybox's and the 'acpid' package.
2020-04-25T09:24:12 #kisslinux <dylan02> brb
2020-04-25T09:33:39 #kisslinux <lieu> muevoid: The acpid wiki was rewrote to use acpid2 because, at that time, kiss had no alternatives system yet, if I'm not mistaken. I'll be PR'ing the bb acpid version back. I just need to find it in the commit history.
2020-04-25T10:09:32 #kisslinux <iuunno> hello
2020-04-25T10:10:06 #kisslinux <iuunno> im trying to install kiss but tukaani.org seems to be down
2020-04-25T10:10:11 #kisslinux <iuunno> currently
2020-04-25T10:12:23 #kisslinux <iuunno> so i cant get xz
2020-04-25T10:25:35 #kisslinux <lieu> iuunno: Use this source: https://nchc.dl.sourceforge.net/project/lzmautils/xz-5.2.4.tar.bz2
2020-04-25T10:25:56 #kisslinux <iuunno> yea i got it already actually
2020-04-25T10:26:31 #kisslinux <lieu> lol i sent an older version
2020-04-25T10:26:32 #kisslinux <iuunno> well i got the 5.2.5 version from sourceforge
2020-04-25T10:26:36 #kisslinux <lieu> yeah
2020-04-25T10:37:45 #kisslinux <dylan02> Fixed the source
2020-04-25T10:45:29 #kisslinux <iuunno> can't create symlink '' to 'usr/bin': No such file or directory
2020-04-25T10:45:55 #kisslinux <iuunno> when installing i think baselayout
2020-04-25T10:46:14 #kisslinux <iuunno> is it just missing the leading / ?
2020-04-25T10:50:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can reproduce, thanks
2020-04-25T10:51:00 #kisslinux <iuunno> i was reading the package but dont understand enough yet to identify whats going on
2020-04-25T10:53:35 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's a bug
2020-04-25T11:05:05 #kisslinux <dylan02> Fix made
2020-04-25T11:05:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> And pushed to repos
2020-04-25T11:05:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> 'kiss u'
2020-04-25T11:05:11 #kisslinux <dylan02> :)
2020-04-25T11:06:32 #kisslinux <iuunno> dope i was actually just lookiing at your commits lol
2020-04-25T11:06:35 #kisslinux <iuunno> so i already did it
2020-04-25T11:08:48 #kisslinux <dylan02> lol
2020-04-25T11:09:16 #kisslinux <dylan02> (This happened due to the new install method which doesn't use rsync. Was expected. =P)
2020-04-25T11:10:40 #kisslinux <iuunno> how fast you got to it kinda proves the whole keeping it so small one person can maintain point tho
2020-04-25T11:11:57 #kisslinux <humaid> Hello,
2020-04-25T11:12:20 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-25T11:12:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> I also try to tackle each bug straight away
2020-04-25T11:13:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> Which is why there are no open issues in the repos (excluding community of course)
2020-04-25T11:13:04 #kisslinux <humaid> dylan02: When 'This week in kiss' comes?
2020-04-25T11:13:31 #kisslinux <iuunno> much appreciated
2020-04-25T11:14:03 #kisslinux <humaid> I like to read that.
2020-04-25T11:15:13 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll try and get it done by tonight
2020-04-25T11:15:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> I may swap to doing it monthly so they're fuller and more interesting.
2020-04-25T11:34:43 #kisslinux <humaid> That's fine too :)
2020-04-25T12:30:04 #kisslinux <user343> hello! i got some strange errors while compiling kernel - http://termbin.com/wtlk . anyone can reproduce?
2020-04-25T12:50:04 #kisslinux <user343> well, i solved it by installing findutils and diffutils
2020-04-25T12:57:02 #kisslinux <fehawen> user343: Yeah, I just had a look and seems they were, so that should explain it :)
2020-04-25T12:57:14 #kisslinux <fehawen> were missing *
2020-04-25T12:57:24 #kisslinux <fehawen> Judging by the error messages alone
2020-04-25T12:57:44 #kisslinux <fehawen> Not that I know anything about kernel compilation yet, lol.
2020-04-25T13:03:57 #kisslinux <user343> Also `make localmodconfig` requires zcat which doesn't exist. afaik gzip package should ship zcat
2020-04-25T13:06:45 #kisslinux <dylan02> OK
2020-04-25T13:06:47 #kisslinux <dylan02> On it
2020-04-25T13:08:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> OK. gzip has zcat now. ('kiss u')
2020-04-25T13:09:19 #kisslinux <user343> thanks
2020-04-25T13:09:21 #kisslinux <dylan02> user343: Those find/diff errors are harmless
2020-04-25T13:09:28 #kisslinux <dylan02> I compile my kernel with them
2020-04-25T13:09:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> And all is well
2020-04-25T13:11:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> The kernel is also aware that 'diff' will fail due to busybox.
2020-04-25T13:12:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> > # Busybox's diff doesn't have -I, avoid warning in the case
2020-04-25T13:14:33 #kisslinux <user343> ok, what about find error?
2020-04-25T13:18:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's only for header generation(?) which isn't an issue if you keep to the KISS package for them.
2020-04-25T13:21:16 #kisslinux <dylan02> Though I'll look into adding -printf to busybox find so that there's no need for findutils.
2020-04-25T14:10:32 #kisslinux <user343> dylan02: any reason why CONFIG_FEATURE_MODUTILS_[ALIAS,SYMBOLS] disabled in busybox package? please bring them back
2020-04-25T14:12:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> Sure
2020-04-25T14:14:00 #kisslinux <user343> tnx so much
2020-04-25T17:58:19 #kisslinux <hechos> hi guys
2020-04-25T17:58:23 #kisslinux <oste> oy
2020-04-25T17:58:35 #kisslinux <oste> | rev
2020-04-25T17:58:39 #kisslinux <hechos> ?
2020-04-25T17:58:40 #kisslinux <oste> :)
2020-04-25T17:59:03 #kisslinux <hechos> can be package my kernel on time is compiled?
2020-04-25T18:00:48 #kisslinux <oste> can you package your kernel once youve compiled it?
2020-04-25T18:01:35 #kisslinux <hechos> yeah, osrry
2020-04-25T18:01:40 #kisslinux <hechos> is my english.,
2020-04-25T18:01:45 #kisslinux <oste> that's ok
2020-04-25T18:01:47 #kisslinux <hechos> but is right question.
2020-04-25T18:01:59 #kisslinux <oste> when you run 'make install' it puts vmlinuz and System.map in /boot right?
2020-04-25T18:02:02 #kisslinux <hechos> i mind, im reading how things work on kiss
2020-04-25T18:02:23 #kisslinux <hechos> never installed os yet.
2020-04-25T18:02:27 #kisslinux <oste> oh ok
2020-04-25T18:02:47 #kisslinux <hechos> im analyze how can due duties on installation
2020-04-25T18:02:52 #kisslinux <oste> oh i see!
2020-04-25T18:03:12 #kisslinux <hechos> to make a script to semi-automatize task on installation
2020-04-25T18:03:54 #kisslinux <oste> hve you built your own kernel before?
2020-04-25T18:03:54 #kisslinux <hechos> got couple old xeon and newones, but laptop are low powered.
2020-04-25T18:04:00 #kisslinux <oste> ahh i see
2020-04-25T18:04:21 #kisslinux <hechos> so im thinking compiling on powerdesk
2020-04-25T18:04:29 #kisslinux <oste> you may copy it over once its finished...
2020-04-25T18:04:39 #kisslinux <hechos> and move packages to poorlaptops... lol
2020-04-25T18:04:50 #kisslinux <hechos> aha.
2020-04-25T18:04:58 #kisslinux <oste> :)
2020-04-25T18:05:24 #kisslinux <hechos> im think on compile just kernel, rest leave a binary pre-compiled.
2020-04-25T18:05:50 #kisslinux <hechos> how much time take to compile a kernel?
2020-04-25T18:06:12 #kisslinux <oste> that depends but on my core2duo cpu with 4gb ram no more than 20-25 minutes
2020-04-25T18:06:17 #kisslinux <hechos> always use arch and void even freebsd but never compile a kernel except on buildboot..
2020-04-25T18:06:36 #kisslinux <hechos> long-time..
2020-04-25T18:06:46 #kisslinux <hechos> so have to repack and move to laptops..
2020-04-25T18:07:11 #kisslinux <oste> i see
2020-04-25T18:07:48 #kisslinux <oste> that's not a bad idea, as long as your kernel supports your laptops!
2020-04-25T18:07:49 #kisslinux <hechos> sorry about stupid question...
2020-04-25T18:08:04 #kisslinux <oste> i am happy to answer you
2020-04-25T18:08:18 #kisslinux <hechos> well fine, thank you.
2020-04-25T18:08:25 #kisslinux <oste> youre welcome
2020-04-25T18:10:28 #kisslinux <hechos> where can read basic compiling guide
2020-04-25T18:10:36 #kisslinux <hechos> on kernel im talking about..
2020-04-25T18:11:54 #kisslinux <oste> its a very minimal process. you download, extract, run make, make install. ill find a guide that explains the '.config' file.
2020-04-25T18:12:42 #kisslinux <hechos> and modules build on automatic?
2020-04-25T18:13:37 #kisslinux <oste> kiss doesnt use any intiramfs so you do not use modules. you can compile them directly into the kernel through the '.config' file if they are absolutely necessary i.e. wifi drivers
2020-04-25T18:15:13 #kisslinux <hechos> ohh nice.
2020-04-25T18:15:31 #kisslinux <oste> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel/Traditional_compilation
2020-04-25T18:15:43 #kisslinux <hechos> aha.,
2020-04-25T18:15:45 #kisslinux <oste> ^ seems like an ok place to start
2020-04-25T18:16:18 #kisslinux <hechos> when have compiled kernel the rest is almost the same to others os.
2020-04-25T18:16:35 #kisslinux <hechos> for give example install void to chroot in manual way..
2020-04-25T18:16:43 #kisslinux <hechos> so have idea how procced.
2020-04-25T18:17:03 #kisslinux <oste> i believe with kiss installation the kernel is one of the last steps just before the base init system and the bootloader?
2020-04-25T18:17:56 #kisslinux <hechos> unpacking tarballs install boot loader
2020-04-25T18:18:16 #kisslinux <oste> https://k1ss.org/install
2020-04-25T18:18:59 #kisslinux <oste> near the bottom there is a page that is titled "THE BOOTLOADER"
2020-04-25T18:19:58 #kisslinux <hechos> im reading.
2020-04-25T18:20:57 #kisslinux <hechos> btrfs isnt supported?
2020-04-25T18:21:20 #kisslinux <oste> no it does not appear so
2020-04-25T18:21:41 #kisslinux <hechos> but if build on kernel should be work
2020-04-25T18:21:45 #kisslinux <hechos> right?
2020-04-25T18:21:51 #kisslinux <hechos> have to open ticket to it?
2020-04-25T18:22:03 #kisslinux <hechos> Open an issue for additional filesystem support
2020-04-25T18:22:14 #kisslinux <oste> it wouldnt hurt i dont know what it would do :)
2020-04-25T18:22:28 #kisslinux <oste> haha i see that! good eyes :)
2020-04-25T18:23:27 #kisslinux <hechos> what you mind>2020-04-25T18:23:58 #kisslinux <oste> i just saw that it says "open an issue for additional filesystem support". good eyes means i did not see that and you did, good job.
2020-04-25T18:25:20 #kisslinux <oste> oops, i killed my xserver
2020-04-25T18:25:51 #kisslinux <oste> check pls
2020-04-25T18:26:00 #kisslinux <hechos> y see
2020-04-25T18:26:07 #kisslinux <hechos> aha.
2020-04-25T18:26:13 #kisslinux <oste> :)
2020-04-25T18:26:16 #kisslinux <hechos> thanks. talk to later...
2020-04-25T18:26:26 #kisslinux <oste> ok bye!
2020-04-25T19:28:28 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> Hello hello
2020-04-25T19:28:41 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> How's everyone today?
2020-04-25T20:09:51 #kisslinux <misc_> pretty good
2020-04-25T20:24:42 #kisslinux <uhohpinoccio> Glad to hear
2020-04-25T21:00:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> Playing dead cells while I contemplate how to build this website
2020-04-25T22:15:48 #kisslinux <k1ss> just found this: https://app.vagrantup.com/abi/boxes/kiss/
2020-04-25T23:10:28 #kisslinux <claudia> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1111974-highlight-kiss.html