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2020-04-07T00:01:34 #kisslinux <nocir> here pastebin.com/UWg7nfiJ
2020-04-07T00:03:36 #kisslinux <nocir> and i have also encrypted my home partition, and set up a /etc/crypttab pastebin.com/Jyx94Pkm
2020-04-07T00:04:04 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oh ok. my apologies, that's above my pay grade :)
2020-04-07T00:15:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> nocir: I am also using x230 and have setup my fstab with partuuid. My fstab looks similar
2020-04-07T00:15:36 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://termbin.com/shin
2020-04-07T00:15:42 #kisslinux <claudia02> but mine is a coreboot machine
2020-04-07T00:18:25 #kisslinux <nocir> I feel like it's a grub problem though, because during boot it doesn't even get to the grub screen (or prompt) before it just stops and reboots
2020-04-07T00:19:00 #kisslinux <nocir> even if it wasn't managing to decrypt my home directory, it could still load grub
2020-04-07T00:19:01 #kisslinux <claudia02> this is an known error
2020-04-07T00:20:08 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have added this in my /etc/default/grub
2020-04-07T00:20:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> root=PARTUUID=c24fa20f-01
2020-04-07T00:20:23 #kisslinux <claudia02> this might be my UUID
2020-04-07T00:23:47 #kisslinux <claudia02> yes you have to tell grub the uuid of the drive where it can find the kernel
2020-04-07T00:27:59 #kisslinux <nocir> ok
2020-04-07T00:28:52 #kisslinux <nocir> so I could just write root=UUID=<myrootuuid> in my /etc/default/grub
2020-04-07T00:32:11 #kisslinux <claudia02> this is what my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line looks like
2020-04-07T00:32:19 #kisslinux <claudia02> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet root=PARTUUID=c24fa20f-01 GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768x32"
2020-04-07T00:33:43 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have the UUID in grub default and PARTUUID in fstab. I remember it was a bit fiddeling to get it right
2020-04-07T00:34:41 #kisslinux <claudia02> Maybe you have do update your grub config.
2020-04-07T00:34:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> after
2020-04-07T00:34:54 #kisslinux <claudia02> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
2020-04-07T00:59:57 #kisslinux <nocir> Changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet root=UUID=<my-root-partitions-uuid>" and it still will not boot
2020-04-07T01:02:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> have you tried enabling debugging messages to see if it spits out anything useful?
2020-04-07T01:02:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB#Enable_debug_messages
2020-04-07T01:04:27 #kisslinux <claudia02> nocir: I have it working wiht "root=PARTUUID=UUID"
2020-04-07T01:23:25 #kisslinux <nocir> what part of the file should I add this to?
2020-04-07T01:24:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> presumably it wouldn't matter
2020-04-07T01:25:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> it'll get overwritten on regeneration anyways so i wouldn't worry too much... probably just the top or bottom maybe? Never used GRUB
2020-04-07T01:26:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> make sure the uuid you put after PARTUUID= is the actual PARTUUID and not the UUID because they are different
2020-04-07T01:27:49 #kisslinux <nocir> dilyn: it didn't print anything knew, it just printed 'Grub loading' and rebooted
2020-04-07T01:28:16 #kisslinux <nocir> E5ten: so i need to use the PARTUUID, not the UUID?
2020-04-07T01:28:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> (remove quiet)
2020-04-07T01:29:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> although quiet might just supress kernel messages
2020-04-07T01:29:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> well if you're using root=PARTUUID yeah you need to use the PARTUUID instead of the UUID, iirc though root=UUID requires initramfs to work which you won't have cuz you're on kiss, so yeah use PARTUUID
2020-04-07T01:50:41 #kisslinux <nocir> so i tried root=PARTUUID=<partuuid> and root=PARTUUID=<uuid> and neither works. I don't think messing with kernel parameters will fix the problem though, because I can't even get to the screen where you select an OS
2020-04-07T01:56:31 #kisslinux <nocir> to give a detailed summary of what is going on: when i boot my computer displays the splash screen, and then prints 'GRUB loading' for a moment. after this it reboots, and proceeds to do the same thing over again.
2020-04-07T01:57:34 #kisslinux <nocir> I might just use efi grub or efibootmgr at this point.
2020-04-07T02:26:39 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://eadwardus.site/?blog/2020-04-06
2020-04-07T02:26:53 #kisslinux <icyphox> This is pretty interesting.
2020-04-07T03:02:21 #kisslinux <mforney> icyphox: have you seen https://github.com/oasislinux/oasis? that's my own project, and is quite similar (static linking, rc, perp, [su]base, etc)
2020-04-07T03:04:12 #kisslinux <mforney> almost every package can be built with cproc, too (my tiny C compiler)
2020-04-07T03:05:20 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh wow.
2020-04-07T03:05:27 #kisslinux <icyphox> mforney: This is sick.
2020-04-07T03:09:47 #kisslinux <mforney> thanks :)
2020-04-07T03:11:39 #kisslinux <mforney> it's mostly just tailored to my own needs, but is the culmination of years of work on a pretty wide range of projects
2020-04-07T03:20:12 #kisslinux <nocir> i didn't know about netsurf till now, it looks pretty cool, i'll have to try it
2020-04-07T03:21:52 #kisslinux <mforney> it works *decently* well, as long as the website doesn't rely on javascript or fancy new css features
2020-04-07T03:22:22 #kisslinux <mforney> i use firefox via pkgsrc for those that don't work
2020-04-07T03:22:57 #kisslinux <nocir> yeah, i've used dillo before, i figure it would be similar.
2020-04-07T03:23:48 #kisslinux <nocir> the framebuffer support is particularly interesting
2020-04-07T03:25:21 #kisslinux <nocir> i've always been interested in not running X, but certain programs like web browsers have stopped me.
2020-04-07T03:27:02 #kisslinux <mforney> yes, nsfb is quite nice since it's so easy to get up and running. recently, some folks have even managed to port it to plan9: https://github.com/netsurf-plan9/netsurf
2020-04-07T03:35:39 #kisslinux <nocir> thats cool. I never got very into plan9, though. have you done anything with it?
2020-04-07T03:35:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> mforney: Do you use oasis as your daily driver?
2020-04-07T03:37:42 #kisslinux <mforney> nocir: i've messed around with it a bit. i'm quite found of acme, rc, and a lot of its ideas, but i've never installed it other than in a vm
2020-04-07T03:37:46 #kisslinux <mforney> icyphox: yep
2020-04-07T03:38:19 #kisslinux <mforney> (i do have an emergency ubuntu partition though :P)
2020-04-07T03:38:24 #kisslinux <icyphox> Neat. The issue I face with KISS is the occasional "bloat" I may need to run.
2020-04-07T03:38:33 #kisslinux <icyphox> Ah, I'm thinking of having one too.
2020-04-07T03:39:54 #kisslinux <mforney> so far i've been using pkgsrc for that. it's a nice way to keep the bloat self-contained, and you get 22000 packages for free
2020-04-07T03:40:35 #kisslinux <mforney> nix is another option
2020-04-07T03:41:50 #kisslinux <nocir> I just use separate computers. I have one that runs debian, one that runs openbsd, and one that i am currently trying to install kisslinux on
2020-04-07T03:42:33 #kisslinux <nocir> i use the debian one for bloated stuff
2020-04-07T04:53:49 #kisslinux <icyphox> nocir: I wish I had that option lol.
2020-04-07T04:54:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> I might have to ditch my current KISS install.
2020-04-07T04:54:19 #kisslinux <icyphox> Let's see...
2020-04-07T05:48:40 #kisslinux <lieu> phew, and glibc buils! lol
2020-04-07T05:51:35 #kisslinux <lieu> anyway, i'm trying to recreate that glibc'ed kiss form but from scratch bec why not :D
2020-04-07T06:24:30 #kisslinux <Crestwave> E5ten: Not sure what you're trying to say. If indexing of $@ started at 1, then ${@::1} would evaluate to $1, not $0
2020-04-07T06:24:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You can check ${@:0:1} and ${@:1:1} yourself
2020-04-07T07:43:05 #kisslinux <E5ten> ${@::1} is $@ at index 0, where it is $0, which isn't a positional parameter, at index 1, ${@:1:1}, the positional parameters start, so "indexing starts at 1 by default" for the positional parameters, because index 0 is the running process
2020-04-07T09:21:23 #kisslinux <Crestwave> E5ten: Ah, I see. The "by default" still makes me think it's referring to when it's omitted, but I'm not sure.
2020-04-07T10:37:15 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Got Neofetch running on OSH with patches! https://i.imgur.com/TWMm1iA_d.png?maxwidth=9999&fidelty=high
2020-04-07T10:42:30 #kisslinux <Crestwave> (the great part is that andy wants it to run so he's actually fixing the issues! My issue for $(<file) was over a year old and got fixed within a day when I reminded him that neofetch used it)
2020-04-07T11:55:52 #kisslinux <bacot> help
2020-04-07T11:58:39 #kisslinux <fehawen> bacot: With?
2020-04-07T12:03:19 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-04-07T12:12:36 #kisslinux <fehawen> So... Should we issue an officical M.I.A. on dylan and send out a search team on the Greek west coast?
2020-04-07T12:12:59 #kisslinux <icyphox> fehawen: He's back. Or he did come back for a bit
2020-04-07T12:13:10 #kisslinux <icyphox> He said his laptop conked and he's placed an order for a new one.
2020-04-07T12:13:17 #kisslinux <fehawen> Ah, so he's alive. Good to hear
2020-04-07T12:13:32 #kisslinux <fehawen> But then he vanished again?
2020-04-07T12:13:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> Yeah, he had temporary access to a laptop then.
2020-04-07T12:14:00 #kisslinux <icyphox> He popped in, explained his situation and bounced.
2020-04-07T12:14:16 #kisslinux <icyphox> His current machine is rekt completely.
2020-04-07T12:17:11 #kisslinux <fehawen> I see
2020-04-07T14:51:41 #kisslinux <onodera> hi neeasade
2020-04-07T14:51:52 #kisslinux <neeasade> hello onodera
2020-04-07T14:51:57 #kisslinux <neeasade> what's up
2020-04-07T14:52:58 #kisslinux <onodera> not much, long time no see
2020-04-07T14:53:14 #kisslinux <neeasade> onodera: fr -- I assume that kisslinux is stealing some of your crux linux love?
2020-04-07T14:53:14 #kisslinux <onodera> I'll actually be formatting my disks and moving over my kiss linux chroot over tonight
2020-04-07T14:53:22 #kisslinux <onodera> lmao yeah true
2020-04-07T14:53:26 #kisslinux <neeasade> ah nice :)
2020-04-07T14:53:27 #kisslinux <onodera> it seems to be a bit more active
2020-04-07T14:54:34 #kisslinux <neeasade> I think so, yeah
2020-04-07T14:55:08 #kisslinux <neeasade> main pro of kisslinux compared to crux that I percieve is that the system utils are all in sh, so if you are comfortable with sh, you get a really transparent system experience
2020-04-07T14:55:23 #kisslinux <neeasade> you could say the same with crux and c++, but sh is more accessible I think
2020-04-07T14:55:42 #kisslinux <onodera> pkgmk is sh, but yeah prt-get is c++
2020-04-07T14:56:00 #kisslinux <neeasade> prt-get is what I was referring to, yeah
2020-04-07T17:16:12 #kisslinux <E5ten> Crestwave: ohhh you mean when you exclude a number between the 2 ::? I don't think that's supposed to be "the starting index" but is just equivalent to 0
2020-04-07T17:16:28 #kisslinux <E5ten> like how [ '' -eq 0 ] is true
2020-04-07T17:39:44 #kisslinux <mateusz> f
2020-04-07T18:15:31 #kisslinux <onodera> Officially running kiss now :)
2020-04-07T18:33:21 #kisslinux <CmOo> Can anyone help me with the ALSA udevd hook? I can't seem to make it work (it should restore the volume level each reboot)
2020-04-07T18:56:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> @onodera yay that's fun news!
2020-04-07T18:57:02 #kisslinux <onodera> CmOo: that should be handled by alsactl
2020-04-07T18:57:10 #kisslinux <onodera> alsactl store and restore
2020-04-07T18:57:41 #kisslinux <onodera> so ideally the alsa package should include some rc file with alsa restore
2020-04-07T19:56:11 #kisslinux <onodera> do you guys have shm, tmpfs and devpts in fstab?
2020-04-07T19:58:29 #kisslinux <ax> hi
2020-04-07T19:59:29 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> hi ax
2020-04-07T20:00:37 #kisslinux <ax> tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,size=2G 0 0
2020-04-07T20:00:55 #kisslinux <ax> but it's you have no need to set it.
2020-04-07T20:01:10 #kisslinux <ax> if you don't use tmp for specific things
2020-04-07T20:01:32 #kisslinux <ax> I did not understand the opening of your issue for btrfs-progs
2020-04-07T20:02:42 #kisslinux <ax> btrfs-progs works perfectly as it is ... it doesn't specifically require the dependency you requested
2020-04-07T20:04:31 #kisslinux <onodera> ax: eh for me it did
2020-04-07T20:04:33 #kisslinux <onodera> let me try again
2020-04-07T20:04:51 #kisslinux <ax> maybe you were referring to libutil-linux but it is an unnecessary dependency for the kiss system
2020-04-07T20:05:04 #kisslinux <ax> yes..try and if you have problem paste termbin log please
2020-04-07T20:05:25 #kisslinux <ax> to open an issue it is welcome to have a specific problem to work on.
2020-04-07T20:05:40 #kisslinux <onodera> checking for BLKID... no
2020-04-07T20:05:41 #kisslinux <onodera> configure: error: Package requirements (blkid) were not met:
2020-04-07T20:05:41 #kisslinux <onodera> Package 'blkid', required by 'virtual:world', not found
2020-04-07T20:05:55 #kisslinux <onodera> this is what I get without having util-linux installed
2020-04-07T20:06:40 #kisslinux <ax> don't have fdisk ?
2020-04-07T20:06:47 #kisslinux <onodera> no
2020-04-07T20:06:51 #kisslinux <onodera> oh
2020-04-07T20:06:52 #kisslinux <onodera> wait
2020-04-07T20:06:52 #kisslinux <onodera> i do
2020-04-07T20:07:32 #kisslinux <ax> you refear at libblkid
2020-04-07T20:07:34 #kisslinux <ax> uhm
2020-04-07T20:07:36 #kisslinux <onodera> I have fdisk as a binary, though I am not sure which package provides it
2020-04-07T20:08:03 #kisslinux <ax> but you are testing from kiss build yes ?
2020-04-07T20:08:16 #kisslinux <onodera> what do you mean?
2020-04-07T20:08:33 #kisslinux <onodera> kiss b throws this error when compiling btrfs-progs without having util-linux installed
2020-04-07T20:08:34 #kisslinux <ax> give me a sec... i verify ... wait a moment
2020-04-07T20:15:42 #kisslinux <onodera> it's kinda weird, busybox does provide blkid, yet btrfs progs whines about it not being found...
2020-04-07T20:15:44 #kisslinux <ax> it's strange ... you have fdisk but blkid not work ... uhm .. can you " whereis blkid" please
2020-04-07T20:15:53 #kisslinux <ax> have a path ?
2020-04-07T20:18:51 #kisslinux <ax> normally blkid necessary for e2fsprogs ... I take it for granted that you have it ...
2020-04-07T20:19:42 #kisslinux <ax> i think you have a path problem!
2020-04-07T20:19:48 #kisslinux <ax> verify /sbin please
2020-04-07T20:22:24 #kisslinux <mforney> i'm guessing it can't find libblkid, not the blkid command
2020-04-07T20:23:07 #kisslinux <mforney> busybox provides the blkid command, not libblkid (which comes from util-linux)
2020-04-07T20:24:50 #kisslinux <ax> libblkid necessary for e2fsprogs ... i I don't think he has not installed any basic utility during installation ... for this fs ... or maybe yes .. I assume that the tools mentioned in the installation are present ... and therefore the rest of the dependencies are pulled ...
2020-04-07T20:30:04 #kisslinux <ax> if then it becomes a basic package together with the others and I am told by dylan to add it because in the specific case it can be the only one installed from 0 then I add it. Keep in mind that the only ones who do this are arch and debian. Crux does not link as a necessary library. ask yourself why "why it should be linked in the basic installation". I can also identify myself with conceiving
2020-04-07T20:30:05 #kisslinux <ax> that instead I may not want the rest but only this. But dylan will tell me. I prefer to wait until he comes back alive.
2020-04-07T20:34:30 #kisslinux <onodera> e2fsprogs build just fine however...
2020-04-07T20:35:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> e2fsprogs ships a bundled version of libblkid
2020-04-07T20:36:16 #kisslinux <ax> yes.
2020-04-07T20:37:23 #kisslinux <jedavies> e2fsprogs on my machine doesn't seem to have libblkid.so.1, which is what btrfs-progs wants. Is provided by util-linux though.
2020-04-07T20:38:33 #kisslinux <onodera> exactly, and that is why to me it seems utils-linux should be a make dep of btrfs-progs
2020-04-07T20:38:50 #kisslinux <ax> jedavies: I am not against taking a stand, but I am saying that as a basic installation I did not need it. why I think it's better to wait for directives from dylan.
2020-04-07T20:39:19 #kisslinux <onodera> ax: if you build btrfs-progs without having util-linux installed it doesn't fail?
2020-04-07T20:39:24 #kisslinux <ax> i think libblkid is necessary for e2fsprogs ... and i think it necessry for base install.
2020-04-07T20:39:30 #kisslinux <onodera> if so, I really wonder where it gets libblkid from
2020-04-07T20:40:09 #kisslinux <ax> i think that must be a dependency of other and not btrfs-progs ... there is no system without e2fs inside usually.
2020-04-07T20:40:30 #kisslinux <ax> but I don't make it personal. I prefer to wait for directives from dylan about it.
2020-04-07T20:42:25 #kisslinux <mforney> ax: what package on your system provides libblkid, if not util-linux?
2020-04-07T20:46:14 #kisslinux <ax> Maybe I did not say it clear enough. It is clear that it is present in util-linux ... the point is that util-linux should already be in the system from my point of view at the end of the installation.
2020-04-07T20:46:46 #kisslinux <ax> I don't know if I explained myself in my macaronic English
2020-04-07T20:47:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> why is util-linux considered assumed?
2020-04-07T20:47:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> it isn't required by e2fsprogs, and it's in extra
2020-04-07T20:48:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's required for eudev, tho
2020-04-07T20:48:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> but that's optional as far as dylan is concerned I think, considering he ran KISS without any device management period for a while
2020-04-07T20:49:20 #kisslinux <ax> I thought fdisk has always been a basic thing
2020-04-07T20:49:31 #kisslinux <onodera> I do have fdisk
2020-04-07T20:49:38 #kisslinux <onodera> busybox provides it
2020-04-07T20:50:20 #kisslinux <onodera> dilyn: eudev only depends on gperf?
2020-04-07T20:51:50 #kisslinux <ax> think I understand the problem. it's busybox based and what it provides. normally to have fdisk you should also have blkid .... and therefore util-linux.
2020-04-07T20:52:10 #kisslinux <ax> we will wait for dylan and tell us how she prefers it to be. I go back to work
2020-04-07T20:52:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> eudev only requires gperf but blkid support in eudev requires util-linux
2020-04-07T20:52:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> that's the only mention of util-linux in the install guide
2020-04-07T20:56:39 #kisslinux <onodera> ahh I see
2020-04-07T20:59:10 #kisslinux <jedavies> The only packages you can assume are installed are in core/
2020-04-07T21:01:19 #kisslinux <E5ten> fuck yeah my patch to replace a perl script rsync uses in its build with an awk implementation finally got accepted
2020-04-07T21:03:20 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> jedavies i think you are right
2020-04-07T21:07:55 #kisslinux <jedavies> Don't know if that's policy, but that's what I go by. My assumption is that you should be able to build any package by doing "kiss b pkgname" from a clean KISS tarball.
2020-04-07T21:08:42 #kisslinux <jedavies> After adding the repo to KISS_PATH if required
2020-04-07T21:08:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> I would assume even stuff in core should be depended on accordingly? not sure though
2020-04-07T21:11:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> dylan has a list of things in his head of what's assumed, like headers and musl and gcc
2020-04-07T21:11:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> but I don't think he's explcitly put it anywhere
2020-04-07T21:11:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> I've just assumed it's core... as that's what 'core' really gets at
2020-04-07T21:11:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> but grub's in there, and eeeehhhhh
2020-04-07T21:24:41 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah you can't assume grub
2020-04-07T21:31:05 #kisslinux <jedavies> E5Ten: not sure... see ffmpeg for example. It has runtime dependencies on gcc, libz, bzip2 and musl from core, but they are not listed in the depends file.
2020-04-07T22:24:21 #kisslinux <onodera> the rule in crux is that you should list all packages besides the ones in core, these are assumed
2020-04-07T22:24:24 #kisslinux <onodera> which is a good rule imo
2020-04-07T22:49:01 #kisslinux <onodera> should I need to set LC_ALL and LC_LANG and such?
2020-04-07T22:51:49 #kisslinux <jedavies> There is no i18n support in KISS
2020-04-07T22:51:57 #kisslinux <jedavies> Unless you add it yourself
2020-04-07T22:56:04 #kisslinux <ectlunya> has anyone had success with bootloaders other than grub?
2020-04-07T22:56:31 #kisslinux <ectlunya> seems like a lot of people on here (myself included) have had problems especially during the install
2020-04-07T22:57:43 #kisslinux <jedavies> ectlunya: if you have an EFI-based system you could try EFISTUB
2020-04-07T22:58:26 #kisslinux <ectlunya> I do not
2020-04-07T23:01:42 #kisslinux <onodera> I use efistub, works perfectly
2020-04-07T23:01:53 #kisslinux <onodera> ah, you don't have
2020-04-07T23:04:37 #kisslinux <jedavies> LILO? Haven't used that one in a while though.
2020-04-07T23:10:22 #kisslinux <jedavies> ectlunya: It's BIOS instead of EFI?
2020-04-07T23:10:29 #kisslinux <ectlunya> yes
2020-04-07T23:11:28 #kisslinux <ectlunya> has anyone tried embedded systems bootloaders like u-boot
2020-04-07T23:11:38 #kisslinux <jedavies> I use u-boot on ARM
2020-04-07T23:12:14 #kisslinux <ectlunya> how is it
2020-04-07T23:13:06 #kisslinux <jedavies> It boots the kernel but that's about it. No UI output at all - you have to attach a serial console to see what's going on.
2020-04-07T23:13:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> I think I'm the only one who never had issues with the install lmao
2020-04-07T23:13:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> efistub 'just worked'
2020-04-07T23:14:11 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah efistub is pretty cool
2020-04-07T23:14:41 #kisslinux <ectlunya> I had the same problem some other people mentioned where it got stuck in a loading loop
2020-04-07T23:15:27 #kisslinux <jedavies> Is LILO an option for you? Seem to remember it was quite simple.
2020-04-07T23:15:38 #kisslinux <ectlunya> idk
2020-04-07T23:15:44 #kisslinux <ectlunya> i havent had any problems with it since
2020-04-07T23:16:00 #kisslinux <ectlunya> installed late october last year
2020-04-07T23:16:05 #kisslinux <jedavies> Aah ok
2020-04-07T23:30:07 #kisslinux <onodera> how do i set my timezone?
2020-04-07T23:30:39 #kisslinux <onodera> lilo is very nice and simple, although no longer maintained as far as i know
2020-04-07T23:30:44 #kisslinux <onodera> there is elilo though
2020-04-07T23:31:34 #kisslinux <mforney> i like syslinux
2020-04-07T23:31:50 #kisslinux <ax> hwclock !
2020-04-07T23:31:59 #kisslinux <ax> :P
2020-04-07T23:32:40 #kisslinux <mforney> onodera: usually by creating /etc/localtime to the appropriate timezone data file, or setting TZ in your profile
2020-04-07T23:32:59 #kisslinux <mforney> creating a /etc/localtime symlink*
2020-04-07T23:34:10 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yup, in the tzdata package
2020-04-07T23:39:25 #kisslinux <ax> onodera: i joke... as suggested build tzdata and after ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/yourzone/* /etc/localtime
2020-04-07T23:42:24 #kisslinux <onodera> I should remove the original localtime?
2020-04-07T23:42:46 #kisslinux <ax> who run pacapt on kiss ? i'm build it .. i think it work good :P
2020-04-07T23:43:18 #kisslinux <onodera> alright that worked
2020-04-07T23:43:19 #kisslinux <onodera> Thanks a lor
2020-04-07T23:54:55 #kisslinux <onodera> where do I set my hostname, /etc/hostname doesn't seem to be it