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2020-03-16T01:42:38 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: what's the issue with fontconfig and bmake, is it just the $(subst in the top level Makefile.am?
2020-03-16T01:59:52 #kisslinux <konimex> probably, but here's my recent log: https://termbin.com/qkz2
2020-03-16T02:32:22 #kisslinux <lieu> o/
2020-03-16T02:38:08 #kisslinux <lieu> dylanaraps, paradigm: This happens when installing certain packages -> https://termbin.com/slbl
2020-03-16T04:41:13 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lieu: I'm not that familiar with current bedrock, but I'm guessing that can be solved by prepending the command with `strat kiss`. If so, I think there's also a configuration option where you can have it do that automatically
2020-03-16T04:42:14 #kisslinux <Crestwave> specifically, the restrict = line in /bedrock/etc/bedrock.conf
2020-03-16T07:21:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> paradigm: https://github.com/kisslinux/init/commit/03e5a99d01f0644055c703a5e2d5db59a2c20a6b
2020-03-16T07:21:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> This is the fix from what I understand
2020-03-16T07:57:11 #kisslinux <lieu> Is it possible to convert this script into POSIX shell? -> https://termbin.com/xwwd
2020-03-16T07:57:26 #kisslinux <lieu> o/
2020-03-16T09:19:18 #kisslinux <konimex> can anyone on KISS post the manifest of libelf? thanks in advance
2020-03-16T09:21:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> https://termbin.com/giqw
2020-03-16T09:31:55 #kisslinux <konimex> alright, so, kernel mirrors cert expired, and videolan is down
2020-03-16T09:32:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> Wonderful
2020-03-16T09:32:13 #kisslinux <dylan02> 10/10
2020-03-16T09:32:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can access videolan
2020-03-16T09:32:41 #kisslinux <dylan02> I can also access kernel.org
2020-03-16T09:33:06 #kisslinux <konimex> what about the full url of say, util-linux tarball
2020-03-16T09:33:23 #kisslinux <dylan02> Works
2020-03-16T09:33:26 #kisslinux <konimex> kernel.org is fine, but not mirrors.edge.kernel.org/blah/blah.tar.xz for me
2020-03-16T09:33:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> > saving to 'util-linux-2.35.1.tar.xz'
2020-03-16T09:33:40 #kisslinux <dylan02> > util-linux-2.35.1.ta 14% 719k 0:00:41 ETA^C
2020-03-16T09:33:52 #kisslinux <konimex> wget or curl?
2020-03-16T09:33:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> wget
2020-03-16T09:34:08 #kisslinux <konimex> since I used kiss b directly here
2020-03-16T09:34:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> curl fails
2020-03-16T09:35:30 #kisslinux <konimex> checked https://isitdownrightnow.com/videolan.org.html also returns down for me so it can't be dns
2020-03-16T09:36:06 #kisslinux <konimex> forgot the www there, dammit
2020-03-16T09:37:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> We'll wait and see I guess
2020-03-16T09:55:05 #kisslinux <jedavies> videolan.org seems ok from here
2020-03-16T12:23:31 #kisslinux <paradigm> dylan02: that's my guess for the simplest fix, yes
2020-03-16T12:24:57 #kisslinux <paradigm> It may be worth noting this isn't strictly a Bedrock specific issue; some legitimate user workflows will trigger this. It's just they're rare outside of Bedrock.
2020-03-16T13:24:44 #kisslinux <paradigm> That might be needed for an nfs mount, for example. If you kill the process before umounting it sometimes it gets angry, but a lazy umount will resolve things.
2020-03-16T13:57:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: in src/Makefile.{am,in}, the use of {body}lt; in the stamp-fcobjhash.gperf rule should be replaced by fcobjhash.gperf.h (I feel like {body}lt; only seems to work in inference rules in bmake?)
2020-03-16T14:26:58 #kisslinux <konimex> man fontconfig's makefile.in looks like a mess
2020-03-16T14:27:13 #kisslinux <konimex> I'd like a patch-less approach but I guess that won't be possible
2020-03-16T14:31:54 #kisslinux <E5ten> I can't even get it working still
2020-03-16T14:31:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> it's very fucked
2020-03-16T14:46:33 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hi, someone elsa have problems to access busybox.net??
2020-03-16T14:46:43 #kisslinux <k1ss> no
2020-03-16T14:48:00 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i have no access
2020-03-16T14:48:37 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> well i want to access some documentation, another day
2020-03-16T14:52:34 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> it's related to this page on wiki https://k1ss.org/wiki/[acpid]-Handle-all-events-in-a-single-script
2020-03-16T14:52:48 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i have enabled the acpid service
2020-03-16T14:53:02 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> but i can't run acpi_listen
2020-03-16T14:53:17 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> shell says don't found
2020-03-16T14:59:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> I had to create a directory for scpi_listen to function
2020-03-16T14:59:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> Check the acpid process to see if it has any errors
2020-03-16T15:01:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> where i need to create the directory?
2020-03-16T15:03:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> I forget what it was specifically but I saw some mention of acpid noticing a missing directory when I was looking at htop
2020-03-16T15:03:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> So you can probably find it just with ps aux | grep acpi
2020-03-16T16:07:11 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> dilyn i can't see what directory is missing
2020-03-16T16:26:28 #kisslinux <claudia3> hola!
2020-03-16T16:26:39 #kisslinux <claudia3> eudaldgr: do you made progress on acpid?
2020-03-16T16:30:44 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> claudia3 no
2020-03-16T16:31:20 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> runsvdir -P /var/service log: c: line 2: acpid: not found ./run: exec: line 2: acpid: not found ./run:
2020-03-16T16:32:04 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> line 2 of run says : exec acpid -fl
2020-03-16T16:32:28 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> if i type acpid it's not found by shell
2020-03-16T16:34:23 #kisslinux <claudia3> there was acpi integrated in busybox
2020-03-16T16:34:31 #kisslinux <claudia3> and theres a seperate acpi package
2020-03-16T16:34:36 #kisslinux <claudia3> do you have this installed?
2020-03-16T16:35:14 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> well, i'm so stupid...
2020-03-16T16:35:23 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> no, it's the answer
2020-03-16T16:35:29 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> '=D '=D
2020-03-16T16:35:35 #kisslinux <claudia3> y the wiki is not very clear about that (:
2020-03-16T16:36:45 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> yeah i checked the kernel stuff, and since I had the service in /etc/sv i didn't check that
2020-03-16T16:46:51 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> someone had packaged openjdk?
2020-03-16T16:56:05 #kisslinux <altius> Hi all. Just did kiss u, and:
2020-03-16T16:56:13 #kisslinux <altius> firefox-bin Extracting sourcestar: short read!> firefox-bin Couldn't extract firefox.68.6.0esr-3.tar.gz?no-extract
2020-03-16T16:56:33 #kisslinux <altius> And update stopped. Someone with the same error?
2020-03-16T17:09:39 #kisslinux <jedavies> altius: try deleting that file in ~/.cache/kiss/sources/firefox-bin/ and try "kiss u" again.
2020-03-16T17:20:57 #kisslinux <altius> Sorry, didn't work. Same error. Any ideas?
2020-03-16T17:41:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> so i'm trying to build portola (openjdk for musl) but i think i need an openjdk functional to build them
2020-03-16T17:42:28 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> so any idea how to compile if i don't find any distribution have a binary for portola?
2020-03-16T17:45:49 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> or all i find needs glibc
2020-03-16T17:47:32 #kisslinux <jedavies> eudaldgr: had a look at how alpine or void are doing it?
2020-03-16T17:52:40 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> (y)
2020-03-16T17:52:44 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> thanks
2020-03-16T18:11:39 #kisslinux <humaid> altius: happen to me
2020-03-16T18:12:16 #kisslinux <humaid> tar short read, user = panic
2020-03-16T18:12:49 #kisslinux <altius> That with firefox-bin or else?
2020-03-16T18:16:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> sup fam
2020-03-16T18:16:43 #kisslinux <humaid> altius: yes
2020-03-16T18:17:31 #kisslinux <kiedtl> adamantium: hi
2020-03-16T18:17:48 #kisslinux <humaid> I'm updating because xorg broke, keyboard is not working
2020-03-16T18:18:33 #kisslinux <humaid> firefox-bin not extracting
2020-03-16T18:20:05 #kisslinux <altius> I could "update" the rest of the system by just "kis b" and "kiss i" for the other packages but Firefox. Now it seems all is up to date but that.
2020-03-16T18:21:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> i got a job my dudes
2020-03-16T18:21:09 #kisslinux <humaid> good idea,
2020-03-16T18:21:10 #kisslinux <adamantium> devops
2020-03-16T18:21:15 #kisslinux <adamantium> finally
2020-03-16T18:21:21 #kisslinux <humaid> Congratulations
2020-03-16T18:21:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> thanx
2020-03-16T18:22:16 #kisslinux <humaid> adamantium: long have you been waiting?
2020-03-16T18:23:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> skvare.com , it's a small/medium company, they do long-term work, creating and maintaining drupal/civicrm websites and infrastructure for non-profit groups. I'll be doing devops!
2020-03-16T18:23:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> I've been doing open source work for years, and self learning, but never had a paid gig before now
2020-03-16T18:24:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> Finally got my foot in the door somewhere now
2020-03-16T18:25:04 #kisslinux <humaid> It's not easy getting in this industry, keep going
2020-03-16T18:28:01 #kisslinux <altius> adamantium Congrats!
2020-03-16T18:32:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> altius: THANKS
2020-03-16T18:32:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> Pretty stoked guys. Remote work during coronavirus is the way to go. :P
2020-03-16T18:34:58 #kisslinux <altius> Sure you'll do fine. And hey, don't forget us FOSS community now that you are some someone in the market. XD
2020-03-16T18:35:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> They will let me keep doing side projects and want me to keep furthering my learning
2020-03-16T18:35:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> :D
2020-03-16T18:37:00 #kisslinux <altius> That seems like a fair deal. ;) But what is more fair, you contribute to FOSS, you learn, you get a nice job. Win-win for everybody. XD
2020-03-16T19:04:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> Rajah
2020-03-16T20:11:30 #kisslinux <humaid> dilyn: how to install firefox-bin? tar: short read...
2020-03-16T20:11:31 #kisslinux <humaid> any alternative to Firefox?
2020-03-16T20:13:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Falkon if you don't mind building all of QT
2020-03-16T20:14:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Also I am not Dylan if that's who you wanted
2020-03-16T20:15:39 #kisslinux <dilyn> If nobody else can install firefox-bin dilyn might've submitted a borked compressed version? Not sure how he packages firefox-bin
2020-03-16T20:18:39 #kisslinux <humaid> Ok sorry I thought you were him. Trying falkon.thx
2020-03-16T20:19:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> I wish I were so talented
2020-03-16T20:20:19 #kisslinux <humaid> You got aesthetic name.
2020-03-16T20:22:14 #kisslinux <humaid> to be honest I want chromium but it's App Image didn't work
2020-03-16T20:22:32 #kisslinux <humaid> Maybe because dbus.
2020-03-16T20:23:15 #kisslinux <humaid> There was something called ungoogled chromium
2020-03-16T20:23:22 #kisslinux <humaid> Is*
2020-03-16T20:43:11 #kisslinux <ax> evening, sorry but i dont understand ... why my locale not work in ENV, i add it /etc/profile and in ~/.profile but at login no wor. It's work only with "su -"
2020-03-16T20:43:40 #kisslinux <ax> can you give me some explanations please.
2020-03-16T20:44:26 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> for locale you mean the system language?
2020-03-16T20:44:48 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> keyboard layout?
2020-03-16T20:44:57 #kisslinux <ax> yes
2020-03-16T20:45:47 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> yes, what?
2020-03-16T20:45:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> first thing i said or the second?
2020-03-16T20:46:02 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> or both?
2020-03-16T20:46:32 #kisslinux <ax> i build bkeymaps and add loadkmap < mykeymap in /etc/profile and for my user ~/.profile
2020-03-16T20:46:45 #kisslinux <ax> eudaldgr: keyboard layout ! yes!
2020-03-16T20:47:09 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> okey :')
2020-03-16T20:47:22 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i have the same problem
2020-03-16T20:47:23 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> https://github.com/eudaldgr/dotfiles/blob/desktop/etc/rc.d/keymap.boot
2020-03-16T20:47:26 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> see that
2020-03-16T20:47:32 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> is what i did
2020-03-16T20:48:23 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> That's what /etc/vconsole.conf is for
2020-03-16T20:48:41 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> that works for tty, if you want your keyboard layout for X you need something like this https://k1ss.org/wiki/Setting-the-keyboard-layout-in-X
2020-03-16T20:48:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> ola
2020-03-16T20:48:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hola
2020-03-16T20:48:58 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> humaid: you can use chromium with the nix pkg manager on kiss, that's what i do
2020-03-16T20:49:13 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilyn: are you the falkon maintainer?
2020-03-16T20:49:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> I am
2020-03-16T20:50:06 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> humaid: curl -L https://nixos.org/nix/install | sh && nix-env -i chromium # should do the trick basically
2020-03-16T20:50:08 #kisslinux <ax> vitorhugo: vconsole.conf wasn't it useful for systemd? -.-'' i'm confused
2020-03-16T20:50:15 #kisslinux <humaid> adamantium[m]: interesting
2020-03-16T20:50:37 #kisslinux <ax> eudaldgr: ok thank you. I understood the direct connection of the login login is missing.
2020-03-16T20:50:46 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> it requires sudo be installed
2020-03-16T20:51:21 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> it will store all the crap in /nix , so you can just delete /nix later if you don't like it
2020-03-16T20:51:25 #kisslinux <humaid> I'm building falkon right now but says no locale nss
2020-03-16T20:51:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilyn: nice. there was this issue where falkon, or qtwebengine could not find stuff and this has to be copied to eg ~/.falkon. have you encounterd the same and did this got resolved?
2020-03-16T20:51:41 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> ax: I' *almost* sure vconsole.conf isn't system specific
2020-03-16T20:51:50 #kisslinux <humaid> adamantium[m]: like a chroot
2020-03-16T20:52:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> I had an issue where I had to symlink use/share/qt to /share/qt (or something like this, not home to check). Dylan had a similar issue, I'm gonna try and look into it soon but not sure how far I'll get
2020-03-16T20:52:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> It isn't easily reproducible
2020-03-16T20:53:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> y, i have the same issue. where falkon or qtwebengine is lookiing at /share/qt and not usr/share/qt
2020-03-16T20:54:11 #kisslinux <ax> vitorhugo: already tested your suggestion without any effect. probably the suggestion of creating an init process is more effective.
2020-03-16T20:54:34 #kisslinux <ax> vitorhugo: thank you ! regardless.
2020-03-16T20:54:47 #kisslinux <vitorhugo> ax: sorry. try etc/keymap
2020-03-16T20:56:26 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> humaid: yes, nix is similar to using a chroot. In the case of nix, it creates some files in $HOME/.nix* , a /nix directory, and it will edit your .bash_profile or .profile file by appending a line to it, modifying your PATH and ENV variables
2020-03-16T20:57:08 #kisslinux <claudia02> I tried to rebuild qt with other configure flags looking at alpine and arch but this made no difference. even setting the envoriment variables for qt search path didnt help. It seemed that qt didnt react to those variables :2020-03-16T20:57:15 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> after installing nix, also it doesn't require root priviledge, you can just install stuff as your local user, kinda like flatpak
2020-03-16T20:58:00 #kisslinux <claudia02> If you need somebody for testing just ping my name, I usually read logs
2020-03-16T20:58:03 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> so i prefer to install garbage like browsers, the gimp, or clunky software with lots of depends with nix, isntead of spending the day creating packages for kiss
2020-03-16T20:58:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> claudia02: thank you! I'll probably work on this tonight
2020-03-16T20:58:43 #kisslinux <humaid> adamantium[m]: doing this , thx man.
2020-03-16T20:59:00 #kisslinux <claudia02> rebuilding this qtstack is really uggly in case of compile time :2020-03-16T20:59:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> That's my problem. My 2014 MacBook pro is really not equipped for this haha
2020-03-16T21:19:48 #kisslinux <humaid> adamantium[m]: it's working thanks for the tip
2020-03-16T21:20:34 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> yup
2020-03-16T21:20:46 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> you'll notice it's not using dbus or anything, too, but still works :)
2020-03-16T21:24:19 #kisslinux <humaid> I've heard about nixos in the past but didn't bother. Nowi t looks cool
2020-03-16T21:25:08 #kisslinux <humaid> No dbus.. how's that
2020-03-16T21:31:07 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> no nixos will use dbus
2020-03-16T21:31:48 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> nixos is pretty bloated and pain in the ass to configure IMO because you have to learn a new programming language
2020-03-16T21:32:23 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> just the nix pkg manager you can get away with using it in nix and it's pretty slick
2020-03-16T21:32:55 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> using it on kiss*
2020-03-16T21:43:14 #kisslinux <raph_ael> nix is over complex, but the idea is nice
2020-03-16T21:44:22 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> it's a bunch of hacks on top of hacks
2020-03-16T21:44:38 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> path and environment variable magic
2020-03-16T21:44:42 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> i can't stand it
2020-03-16T21:47:08 #kisslinux <kiedtl> so you think nix isn't worth it?
2020-03-16T21:47:13 #kisslinux <kiedtl> (haven't used it, just asking)
2020-03-16T21:53:14 #kisslinux <paradigm> Depends on what you value. If you value simplicity very highly, its complexity may not be worth the cost. I figure that's the case for many here. However, other people have different trade-off preferences.
2020-03-16T22:48:38 #kisslinux <ioraff> mforney: sorry if this is a bad place to ask, but I'm having trouble building the swc .so. error is "undefined reference to `libinput_netlink_assign_seat'". static lib builds just fine.
2020-03-16T22:52:01 #kisslinux <mforney> ioraff: you can join #swc
2020-03-16T22:53:51 #kisslinux <mforney> but anyway if you want to use the libinput netlink seat (i.e. without udev), you need to use my libinput branch
2020-03-16T22:54:53 #kisslinux <ioraff> will do, thanks.