💾 Archived View for gemini.ctrl-c.club › ~phoebos › logs › freenode-kisslinux-2019-12-10.txt captured on 2024-05-26 at 16:28:42.

View Raw

More Information

⬅️ Previous capture (2021-12-17)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

2019-12-10T08:51:29 #kisslinux <konimex> isn't sed/ed pretty much one binary in busybox so size is irrelevant?
2019-12-10T08:52:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-12-10T08:52:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though the claim about the sizes of each still holds.
2019-12-10T08:52:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (sed is 10kb bigger than ed/printf together)
2019-12-10T08:52:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It all ends up in a 900kb binary though.
2019-12-10T08:53:07 #kisslinux <konimex> What about pipes though?
2019-12-10T08:54:23 #kisslinux <konimex> though *I think* that both methods spawn one process anyway (ed and sed) unless I'm missing something
2019-12-10T08:54:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2019-12-10T08:54:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Actually, no.
2019-12-10T08:55:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The ed method will spawn a subshell.
2019-12-10T08:55:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which doesn't matter in busybox's case as not all busybox commands don't fork/exec.
2019-12-10T08:55:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> s/don't//
2019-12-10T09:12:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 'sed -i' is so handy though :(
2019-12-10T10:34:23 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> dylanaraps, I'm missing most of the context because matrix is amazing, but doesn't a heredoc avoid the sub-shell when using ed?
2019-12-10T10:34:24 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> dylanaraps, I'm missing most of the context because matrix is amazing, but doesn't a heredoc avoid the sub-shell when using ed?
2019-12-10T10:36:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2019-12-10T10:37:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though it uses a temporary file.
2019-12-10T10:37:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The syntax is now suddenly 3 lines instead of one too.
2019-12-10T10:37:52 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Yeah, it definitely adds more lines
2019-12-10T10:38:15 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> You could also implement your own -i in the package manager
2019-12-10T10:38:26 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Check if sed -i is supported first
2019-12-10T10:51:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'd rather not go the Void route and add wrappers over basic utilities. I'll think of something.
2019-12-10T11:00:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Aarg[m]: This is something you might want to read regarding matrix https://github.com/libremonde-org/paper-research-privacy-matrix.org
2019-12-10T11:02:07 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> cheers, I will have a look
2019-12-10T11:03:31 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> Im just using it because Im procrastinating instead of finishing my irc client
2019-12-10T11:03:55 #kisslinux <Aarg[m]> I guess I could also simply use weechat for now
2019-12-10T13:19:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> E5ten: https://github.com/dylanaraps/pash/pull/10#issuecomment-563993070
2019-12-10T13:19:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Received a reply.
2019-12-10T15:01:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm working on a website and I need to implement search entirely client-side.
2019-12-10T15:01:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh.
2019-12-10T15:01:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's an entirely static website posing as something dynamic basically.
2019-12-10T15:02:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It currently works without js too.
2019-12-10T15:02:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> My current idea is to generate all possible search results beforehand.
2019-12-10T15:02:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ie, every combination of every search modifier.
2019-12-10T15:03:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then to generate a URL for it based on a form submission.
2019-12-10T15:49:56 #kisslinux <dzove855> did you have a link?
2019-12-10T15:55:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Not yet
2019-12-10T15:55:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's not going to be public until it's live.
2019-12-10T15:56:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's not tech related either.
2019-12-10T18:22:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Got search working. Heh
2019-12-10T18:22:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Fully static and client-side search.
2019-12-10T18:22:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Needed a little js though.
2019-12-10T22:48:54 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> and there was me thinking irc had gone out of fashion
2019-12-10T22:49:10 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> Hi All
2019-12-10T22:50:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hello
2019-12-10T22:51:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I like it here as it's solely text based.
2019-12-10T22:51:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Leaving a client idle takes up no resources. :P
2019-12-10T22:51:47 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> my preference too
2019-12-10T22:52:00 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> I'm an old skool tech bod
2019-12-10T22:52:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
2019-12-10T22:52:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As am I.
2019-12-10T22:52:08 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> linux sysadmin
2019-12-10T22:52:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't own a phone!
2019-12-10T22:52:20 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> so i figure I'll fit right in all thigns considered haha
2019-12-10T22:52:25 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> I salute that
2019-12-10T22:52:32 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> but i am weak
2019-12-10T22:53:16 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> so, stupid question, whats the linux ditro affiliation about?
2019-12-10T22:53:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's not easy at first and it does depend on where you live etc.
2019-12-10T22:53:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> But you learn to live without it.
2019-12-10T22:53:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Meaning? I don't quite understand?
2019-12-10T22:55:55 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> ahh, well this channel is called kisslinux
2019-12-10T22:56:12 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> and i thought I saw some distro stuff int he dischord thing
2019-12-10T22:56:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is the channel for KISS Linux
2019-12-10T22:56:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The official communication channel to say things clearly.
2019-12-10T22:56:53 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> oh well that makes sense
2019-12-10T22:56:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It was on Discord when development started
2019-12-10T22:57:06 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> ahhh
2019-12-10T22:57:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I moved to IRC for obvious reasons :P
2019-12-10T22:57:25 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> now all is clear
2019-12-10T22:57:45 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> ok well that clears upa  confusion
2019-12-10T22:58:05 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> landed here by accident however I'll check out the distro now
2019-12-10T22:58:09 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> fate and all that
2019-12-10T22:58:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Right before Discord started asking for phone numbers luckily.
2019-12-10T22:59:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You should if you're interested in keeping things simple (and "old" as it so happens)
2019-12-10T22:59:52 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> it is a thing for me actually
2019-12-10T23:00:16 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> my peers are from the time of bsd
2019-12-10T23:00:24 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> and I'm a stark minimalist so
2019-12-10T23:00:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2019-12-10T23:01:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You'll fit right in
2019-12-10T23:02:28 #kisslinux <SecretSurgeon> they refer to linux as new-fangled which find hillarious
2019-12-10T23:03:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh. It really does depend on where you see the present.