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Comment by โ„ freezr

Re: "๐Ÿš€ Going full Gemini"

In: s/Gemini

@dimkr what I meant is when you interact with someone only this person gets a reply plus the ones you mentioned, all the others don't, on Diaspora/Hubzilla/Friendica all the people involved in a thread are informed and can reply to all without the need to mention anyone. This is a feature that some want to add to ActivityPub.

โ„ freezr [OP]

15 hours ago

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๐Ÿš€ stack ยท 14 hours ago:

@norayr: With GPL if you are running a business, you are taking on a liability and will have to constantly explain to investors why you are publishing the work they are paying for. And making sure some fool doesn't commit company secrets or racist jokes into the public repo. I would definitely avoid it if possible.

Or find a way to comply without complying. Years ago I had to work with an early version of gcc on the arm. The toolchain was maintained by a company that sold an expensive version and a year later would update the source to comply. I don't think you could even compile it: the make file was hardwired to some guy's machine...

Intellectual property is a joke. If you want control, don't publish. Once it's out, you can't tell people what to do with it without pointing a gun at them.

๐Ÿ˜ˆ dimkr ยท 14 hours ago:

@freezr That's also inaccurate, some ActivityPub implementations ignore https://www.w3.org/TR/activitypub/#inbox-forwarding and that's why only thread participants can see replies. For example, tootik forwards all replies in a thread to followers of the user who started the thread (with depth limit). It's an implementation issue, not a problem with the protocol itself.

๐Ÿ˜ˆ dimkr ยท 14 hours ago:

@freezr If you're talking about mentioning somebody in a reply vs. not mentioning, and the notification Mastodon shows if you do, that's 100% a Mastodon thing. ActivityPub doesn't define how notifications should work, and not all implementations insist on you mentioning somebody for them to get notified or receive the reply. Maybe you just don't like Mastodon ๐Ÿ˜

โ„ freezr [OP] ยท 13 hours ago:

Absolutely I don't like mastodon... At all...

โ„ freezr [OP] ยท 13 hours ago:

@dimkr I didn't read the specification, I don't believe I am even able to understand it... Perhaps Mastodon, since took over all the AP projects, inducted me to have a bad opinion about it...

The point is before the AP protocol there were also the diaspora protocol, the friendica protocol, the hubzilla protocol , however on the internet always prevails what the W3C decides...

Well, after the scandal of the DRM inside the HTML5 the W3C is not credible anymore as a "super partes" entity... For me can be erased anytime, as well as anything it does or promotes...

๐Ÿ˜ˆ dimkr ยท 12 hours ago:

@freezr Nobody should read the specification because nobody *really* follows it - Mastodon ignores big parts, adds stuff (like HTTP signatures) and everybody implements their own, quirky but compatible-enough variant of ActivityPub. But ActivityPub itself seems fine to me: without insulting those who wrote this long specification, at the end of the day it's just a bunch of JSONs over HTTPS. Mastodon's *implementation* is the problem most of the time: the biggest fedi instances are Mastodon and sometimes they don't pass posts to other instances, don't show a reply without mention, ... they coerce other software and users to mimic Mastodon's implementation quirks.

โ„ freezr [OP] ยท 12 hours ago:

@dmkir and this does Mastond with 10M users, now try to figure what is going to do Threads with its 150M users... ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

๐Ÿ˜ˆ dimkr ยท 12 hours ago:

@freezr I bet Threads follows the Mastodon 'dialect' of ActivityPub, and I think that people should calm down, limit post audience and block users+instances they don't like if they don't want their posts to feed AI/trackers. Threads won't 'break' the fediverse unless instances with viral posts don't have enough disk space, bandwidth and database compute to handle the extra load - for people who aren't social media influencers and don't follow such people, it probably won't be a problem ๐Ÿ˜ผ

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๐Ÿš€ Going full Gemini โ€” Since I am extremely disappointed by the weird course of ActivityPub, Mastodon, Threads and BlueSky... I am seriously considering to do 30 or even 60 days challenge using exclusively Gemini for my online social activities... ๐Ÿค”

๐Ÿ’ฌ freezr ยท 51 comments ยท 12 likes ยท May 22 ยท 5 days ago