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One really bad idea that game designers keep coming back to is forking interests. This comes in a few forms:
Pay to win is the most egregious example of this, and I don't think I need to explain why everyone hates that. But a subtler form of this flaw is situations where the optimal strategy is to do nothing for a while. Any game that has non-instant health regeneration during safe spots (but not no regeneration) is an example of this, or PvP shooters that reward camping. You're making the player choose either boredom or competitive disadvantage. Why would you do that?
A case I really want to rag on is the loot system in Mass Effect: Andromeda. There's no drawback to picking up loot, but you still have to do it manually, which takes time. Either play the game as harder than it was balanced to be or spend time on something that isn't challenging, isn't part of the story, and has no other appeal to it.
You know, this is really the same thing as grinding, except that it's limited (an improvement) and it makes you feel worse about the decision to not do it (a detriment), because you feel like you're leaving behind something you earned.
RPGs that let you upgrade a "persuade" skill or something similar that gives you additional story options with the same pool of points you spend on your combat abilities. Story games are supposed to be about merging a story and a game, not forcing the player to pick one or the other to be the way they want.
Part of the reason this is so bad is the way it betrays the promise of a player-inserted story game. If the player character is "me", then I should be able to say any option I want that makes sense in context. If the writers acknowledge that the persuade option is something I could say and they already programmed the response for it, then I should be allowed to say it!
Worse, usually the result of putting points into persuade skills is being able to get through quests without doing any fighting, but that just removes the *game* part of the game! If I wanted to read a choose your own adventure, I wouldn't be playing Mass Effect and have the difficulty set to Insanity.
Dark Souls's weapon upgrading system (in fact, most games' weapon upgrading systems) makes you choose between spending scarce and irrecoverable titanite to upgrade the weapon you have now, making the game easier immediately but then harder when you find a new weapon that outmodes your current one, or saving your titanite to invest in a future weapon, which makes the game harder for the current area but easier later on. Both options break the difficulty curve. The players who upgrade their weapon immediately in that situation are the ones who needed to because they weren't good enough to get through without it. But now they won't have the titanite later on when they need it for their next weapon. That means the game gets *harder* in the long-term for weaker players, while the good players experience a transient bump in difficulty followed by either using the titanite later and the game gets *easier* to reward them for proving they don't need it, or they just go the whole game without using it.
Abilities like passive buffs in combat systems typical of JRPGs are not an example of this. Short-term versus long-term *inside of a section* is fine. The problem is when the consequences extend outside of the current fight into the entire rest of the game.