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Comment by ๐Ÿ™ norayr

Re: "My Wife Hates Linux"

In: u/Bazmatazable

to the folks here who expressed dissatisfaction with the state of midern linux distributions i would like say that i obviously understand them myself.

just i think that using floss is already different from using proprietary software like heaven and hell.

floss is already very good. you dont like systemd - there is alpine and void, and i build my gentoo as i want. you like bsd - there it is.

but thought it may seem that freebsd and ubuntu are very different, lets remember that for someone who uses windows those are very far away and very clise yo each other.

if someone uses floss we have to thank you them gor making world a better place even if they use ubuntu which i also do not like.

๐Ÿ™ norayr

2023-11-13 ยท 6 months ago

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๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท 2023-11-13 at 01:26:

i was lucky my wife used to have linux at home because her brother was a fan. also because her brother realized it is much easier to support linux at home even on sister's computer.

she herself is very open minded and didn't feel limited. for her it is very normal that people ate dufferent and think differently and she has very different friends herself and i am amazed by how liberal she is. i wish i was so liberal.

so she uses pinebook because i got her one (but i knew she would like it) and she chose xfce. i suggested gnome, mate, enlightenment, but she liked xfce.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท 2023-11-13 at 01:32:

peofessionally she used to use cad software on windows (autocad, revit) and also illustrator and pbotoshop.

on pinebook i installed some cad software to try and she chose qcad. she knows it is not as convenient as proprietary software she was used to, but she doesn't care much, it is not a big deal for her. she enjoys the pinebook it is very important for her that she can charge it with regular 2 amper phone charger, that it is energy efficient.

she enjoys that it feels different than mainstream windows and macos but she is not attracted to mainstream in all areas of her life.

i sometimes feel narrow minded compared to her but she is liberal so she tolerates me so far.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท 2023-11-13 at 01:43:

so i mentioned cad, she also sometimes has to open or edit very big photos, more than 100mpx, and pinebook only has 4gbs of memory. surprisingly it works very well with that big photos.

she knows that gimp is also not as flexible as photishop but she doesnt care much, just uses gimp and sometimes makes the same thing by more movements, and that is also not a big deal.

when we were starting the relationship i knew i would not use any proprietary messenger, and i dont use a phone (well sim card, number) either. on the other hand i didnt feel comfortable to change someones habits and to ask to use jabber so i didnt even mention it and used a phone at work or email for short communication.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท 2023-11-13 at 01:49:

later when i had a courage to suggest to use another app to be in contact with me i was surprised that iy didnt feel a big deal for her. she just felt this is fun and she now has several contacts and group chats in her jabber client.

she got friends with my friends and my friends use jabber.

so there are group chats and one to one chats they use to stay in contact.

at the same time she uses proprietary messengers to stay in contact with her older friends and family.

sometimes she uses a second phone i got her with sailfish os on it. it doesnt cover all she needs but it runs duo lingo and an rss reader. she was a google reader user back then so she likes rss readers.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท 2023-11-13 at 01:53:

in the future i think on new device i will install an open android build or sailfish with google play services floss replacemeny, dont remember now how was it called, gecko, like the browser engine? and it wont be a problem. still i realize how privileged i am that we both try to not pressure each other or make each others lives uncomfortable for various reasons and reasons always can be found if there is a desire to find those.

๐Ÿš€ Bazmatazable [OP] ยท Dec 13 at 04:55:

Thanks for your insight, maybe you are right and that with time her opinion will change. I'm not expecting anything and I have come to love and accept her all the same. My only hope is that I can expose my daughter! She wil get Linux from her Dad and Apple from her Mum and may the best one win! ๐Ÿ˜‹

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท Dec 14 at 01:35:

i think there is no 'best'. if macos is million times 'better', whatever it means, than 'linux' (whatever that word means) i still would never consider using non libre software.

this isnt a questiin of 'best', this is a question of does the person feel that freedom is more important than convenience? some people have that feeling and some people not. most of the people do not.

in order to feel they have to know some things, i guess. or be not indifferent to some things.

i dont know how people feel some things, and why some of them feel and some not.

it is maybe not even about knowledge?

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท Dec 14 at 01:49:

sometimes i feel that i and some conspiracy believers are very close. the difference is that i know it is hard to make a robot which lives in your blood, you need to solve the problen of power and communication, and fit somewhere the antenna.

they do not know that and may afraid of unknown.

but otherwise we both are suspicious to governments and big companies, big powers.

we are not happy with the status quo.

so i value and respect these people and dislike when others are making fun of conspiracy believers. though it is so hard to communicate with them!

and they afraid of 'wrong' things!

so one aspect of this gut feeling is low trust maybe. but i trust people around me. not the gov.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท Dec 14 at 01:54:

other reason to not be happy with what is there is creativity.

creatives tend to be able to do by themselves what they like.

to be able to play and sing that song. or to be able to craft that guitar in order to play that song. or even invent a new song.

some creatives want to create video games and it starts with them appreciating video games.

when you want to create yourself, often you want to deal with tech you can build or repeat

for some thats about drawing with oil on canvas rather than on a computer.

for some it is being able to wriye a rendering engine.

it is hard to implement a complex spec. so creative programmers love gemini for its simple specification they can implement.

๐Ÿ™ norayr ยท Dec 14 at 01:58:

i am coming closer to the idea that creatives love to also create within limitations. to choose a limitibg at first glance palette for example.

so some of us feel we need limitations. not features.

we need not what is the 'best' but what limits us.

this is another way to feel not satisfued witg macos. can we write it? no! compile it? no! so not interesting.

๐Ÿš€ Bazmatazable [OP] ยท Dec 14 at 07:15:

For a long time I thought that people with uncommon beliefs were just ignorant and all we need was to give them more facts. Now I understand that each person is deeply influenced by their individual experiences and so it is very hard for any of us to be perfectly rational. Like you, I forgive believeing in a conspiracy because I also made many mistakes in my beliefs in the past. I don't forgive being stubborn. If you can learn new ideas then even if you are wrong today there is a chance to be correct tomorrow.

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