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Thanks @totroptof
Some more thoughts from me, although I'm no expert either :)
I think short key expiry is a distraction--it seems like what you want is secure key changes, backup proof of identity and intrusion detection. All of these are hard :)
But not entirely hopeless.
For example, you could have a second key pair that you print and keep only on paper. It's your emergency key in case you need to change the live one or regain control of it.
So that maybe covers secure key changes and backup proof of identity.
It would be nice to have intrusion detection, but I don't see how. For example, a server could notice that you are acessing your account from the other side of the world to where you usually are--by IP address--and ask for confirmation before trusting your cert from your new location. This would catch a lot of compromised keys. But it requires a level of sophisticated tracking and centralization unlikely to come to Gemini. Not saying that's a bad thing--just means it's a different problem to web account security.
I suppose "here is the latest activity associated with your cert" is a form of intrusion detection we could have on Gemini in a distributed way. Then if you see activity you don't recognize you can trigger a key change using your offline key. Somehow.
Fun stuff.
2023-06-19 · 11 months ago
🚀 totroptof · 2023-06-20 at 00:06:
I̶n̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶f̶a̶t̶-̶f̶i̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶c̶c̶i̶d̶e̶n̶t̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶m̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶e̶a̶d̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶a̶ ̶d̶r̶a̶f̶t̶:̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶j̶u̶s̶t̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶j̶o̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶s̶o̶m̶e̶ ̶p̶o̶i̶n̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶:̶)̶
Incredibly, exactly that happened. Sorry 😵💫
☕️ Morgan [mod] · 2023-06-20 at 13:02:
No worries :)
Gemini Identity — @Morgan has a prototype implementation of an identity service for Gemini. This is certainly interesting! Some quick thoughts: If this is something that people want to use, it should not rely on a single central server. Anyone should be able to self-host their identity service and servers should not assume a default one. How does this mesh with people not wanting to be tracked across...
💬 skyjake [...] · 36 comments · 1 like · 2023-06-08 · 11 months ago