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(f)eLinks, Gemini and The XML Bookmark Exchange Language (XBEL)

1. (indieterminacy (a) libre.brussels)

Hello all,

Im considering gemini interoperability with regards to the felinks browser 
(given is should hopefully be added to it this year):
=> https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121 
(https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/issues/121)

Im hoping to prioritise using its (rough around the edges) bookmarking 
facility to access XBEL - the XML Exchange Language.
=> http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/xbel/docs/html/xbel.html 
(http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/xbel/docs/html/xbel.html)

The justification for this is that I hope to connect it with other information assets :

Hyperbole - to integrate it better with my workflow

The homepage is already full of examples regarding how it is currently used.
=> http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/xbel/ (http://pyxml.sourceforge.net/topics/xbel/)

However, are there any people in the Gemini community currently:


I would assert that migrating data from HTML centric bookmarking to Gemini 
centric bookmarking would be a win.

Are there any case studies or suggested workflows from the Gemini community?

Kind regards,
Jonathan McHugh

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2. Sotiris Papatheodorou (sotiris (a) papatheodorou.xyz)

Hi Jonathan,

On 29 Jun 2021, Jonathan McHugh wrote:
> However, are there any people in the Gemini community currently:
> * Absorbing a lot of XML data in order to generate .gmi content?
> * Grapping .gmi content and extracting it into XML.

Amfora [1] uses XBEL to store bookmarks but that's where its usage of XML 
ends as far as I know. Not sure whether this is what you're looking for though.

[1] https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora

> I would assert that migrating data from HTML centric bookmarking to 
Gemini centric bookmarking would be a win.

Using gemtext to store bookmarks in amfora was one of the proposals but 
XBEL seemed like a better fit for structured data [2].

[2] https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/68

Best regards,
Sotiris

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3. (indieterminacy (a) libre.brussels)

Hi Sotiris,

# Evaluating usability for XML
Im at the exploratory stage, so your citation provided good validation.

A Guix user, I havent (yet) had direct access to Amfora. Packaging in Go 
is now easier, so I can use it. Once this thread goes cold I will contact 
the XBEL mailing list to update them re Gemini usecases via xml-sig@python.org
=> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/xml-sig xml-sig -- Python XML 
Special Interest Group

FWIW, I do agree with those emphasising an inhouse Gemini solution 
(especially as I enjoy parsing). 
I similarly could rely on eLinks own approach to bookmarking
=> https://github.com/rkd77/elinks/blob/master/doc/bookmarks.txt [eLinks] 
The Ultimate Bookmarks Guide

However, I wanted to approach it in a way to fit a broader body of users 
and usecases. Besides, I feel that XML's design style provides an 
interesting counterpoint to that of .gmi files.

# In body references
FYI, I recently made some enquiries on the ML regarding in body URI references
=> https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/thread.html#6684 In 
Body URI references

I may explore citation areas for .gmi content - solving the aforementioned 
problem through providing the classic Gemini links and also references, 
with a footer citation block containing further meta data. 

Kind regards,


Jonathan

June 29, 2021 7:12 PM, "Sotiris Papatheodorou" <sotiris@papatheodorou.xyz> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
> 
> On 29 Jun 2021, Jonathan McHugh wrote:
> 
>> However, are there any people in the Gemini community currently:
>> * Absorbing a lot of XML data in order to generate .gmi content?
>> * Grapping .gmi content and extracting it into XML.
> 
> Amfora [1] uses XBEL to store bookmarks but that's where its usage of 
XML ends as far as I know.
> Not sure whether this is what you're looking for though.
> 
> [1] https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora
> 
>> I would assert that migrating data from HTML centric bookmarking to > 
Gemini centric bookmarking
>> would be a win.
> 
> Using gemtext to store bookmarks in amfora was one of the proposals but 
XBEL seemed like a better
> fit for structured data [2].
> 
> [2] https://github.com/makeworld-the-better-one/amfora/issues/68
> 
> Best regards,
> Sotiris

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