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[2024-03-23T02:28:17Z] <asimovsh> hey guys
[2024-03-23T02:28:36Z] <asimovsh> someone have a build of librsvg?
[2024-03-23T06:52:37Z] <sewn> why?
[2024-03-23T08:21:30Z] <phinxy> Anyone got Inkscape 1.3 working?  It builds but segfault with "__setjmp in /lib/ld-musl". 
[2024-03-23T09:33:54Z] <sewn> phinxy: flatpak
[2024-03-23T13:24:21Z] <asimovsh> sewn: i tried to build hyprland and needed librsvg for hyprcursor depends
[2024-03-23T13:24:28Z] <asimovsh> but already solved
[2024-03-23T13:24:33Z] <sewn> hyprland yuck
[2024-03-23T13:26:51Z] <asimovsh> yeah
[2024-03-23T13:26:58Z] <asimovsh> but it looks good
[2024-03-23T13:27:17Z] <sewn> hyprland is a whore
[2024-03-23T13:27:17Z] <asimovsh> i tried swayfx but it seems buggy with wlroots upstream
[2024-03-23T13:27:42Z] <asimovsh> like a whore it give you pleasure in a shit way
[2024-03-23T13:27:51Z] <asimovsh> anyway
[2024-03-23T13:28:05Z] <asimovsh> if anyone here have a hyprland build it will be nice to test
[2024-03-23T13:28:14Z] <asimovsh> i will still make my build
[2024-03-23T13:28:31Z] <asimovsh> sewn: what distro are you using right now?
[2024-03-23T13:28:34Z] <sewn> hyprland was hard for me to deal with on kiss in the packaging side of things
[2024-03-23T13:28:38Z] <sewn> author was very hostile about it
[2024-03-23T13:28:49Z] <sewn> so i had to patch hyprland to package it properly
[2024-03-23T13:28:49Z] <asimovsh> I know
[2024-03-23T13:28:58Z] <sewn> i dont know why people use software made by a shitty author
[2024-03-23T13:29:16Z] <sewn> https://codeberg.org/sewn/kiss-repo/src/commit/db07022e5860e8657369bef6fc96960448e2cbef/repo/hyprland
[2024-03-23T13:29:16Z] <asimovsh> you have the build? maybe i can handle it in community
[2024-03-23T13:29:22Z] <sewn> this is 2 years ago asimovsh
[2024-03-23T13:29:28Z] <sewn> not sure you'd want that
[2024-03-23T13:29:36Z] <sewn> asimovsh: keep your shitware outside kiss community :D
[2024-03-23T13:29:47Z] <asimovsh> just for test 
[2024-03-23T13:29:59Z] <asimovsh> and maybe some people will like it
[2024-03-23T13:30:09Z] <sewn> we are on KISS not arch
[2024-03-23T13:30:22Z] <asimovsh> thats right
[2024-03-23T13:30:35Z] <asimovsh> what distro are you using right now?
[2024-03-23T13:30:44Z] <asimovsh> U said that you are not in kiss anymore
[2024-03-23T13:30:57Z] <sewn> alpine
[2024-03-23T13:31:03Z] <sewn> best distro by far for me
[2024-03-23T13:31:08Z] <asimovsh> why?
[2024-03-23T13:31:15Z] <sewn> i like it's design and simplicity
[2024-03-23T13:31:31Z] <sewn> and i like my convenience - things work more and i have to worry less about my system
[2024-03-23T13:31:55Z] <asimovsh> i like alpine but the system build is a problem
[2024-03-23T13:32:10Z] <sewn> abuild is so nice
[2024-03-23T13:32:10Z] <asimovsh> binaries force you to use xwayland and stuff
[2024-03-23T13:32:20Z] <sewn> and do you happen to know why that is?
[2024-03-23T13:32:35Z] <sewn> why they build with full feature support?
[2024-03-23T13:32:48Z] <asimovsh> for convenience
[2024-03-23T13:32:52Z] <asimovsh> less problem
[2024-03-23T13:32:56Z] <sewn> yes
[2024-03-23T13:33:01Z] <sewn> its aimed to satisfy everyone
[2024-03-23T13:33:05Z] <sewn> and its doing a rather great job
[2024-03-23T13:33:07Z] <asimovsh> yeah
[2024-03-23T13:33:15Z] <asimovsh> i prefer musl gentoo
[2024-03-23T13:33:23Z] <sewn> gentoo is much more bloated than alpine
[2024-03-23T13:33:43Z] <asimovsh> the problem with gentoo is just the core utils and the package manager
[2024-03-23T13:33:47Z] <sewn> alpine uses apk (C) and abuild (ash), while gentoo just uses python for everything, and the build system in general is badly designed
[2024-03-23T13:33:58Z] <sewn> it is really hard to deal with for the user too
[2024-03-23T13:34:05Z] <asimovsh> yeah
[2024-03-23T13:34:39Z] <asimovsh> but useflags are a good option to customize your system
[2024-03-23T13:34:48Z] <asimovsh> thats the good in gentoo
[2024-03-23T13:34:58Z] <sewn> the only good thing really yeah
[2024-03-23T13:35:13Z] <asimovsh> thats what a like
[2024-03-23T13:35:21Z] <asimovsh> maybe i will try alpine some day
[2024-03-23T13:35:30Z] <asimovsh> for now kiss is doing great again
[2024-03-23T13:35:41Z] <asimovsh> i can customize for what i need
[2024-03-23T13:35:56Z] <sewn> i understand
[2024-03-23T13:37:30Z] <asimovsh> also van anyone here pull my libtorrent fix?
[2024-03-23T13:37:36Z] <asimovsh> in community
[2024-03-23T13:38:20Z] <asimovsh> sewn: are you using a wayland compositor in alpine?
[2024-03-23T13:38:27Z] <sewn> i am using my fork of dwl
[2024-03-23T13:38:58Z] <asimovsh> I thinking in try it
[2024-03-23T13:39:01Z] <asimovsh> Is that good?
[2024-03-23T13:39:03Z] <sewn> trying dwl?
[2024-03-23T13:39:08Z] <asimovsh> Yeah
[2024-03-23T13:39:11Z] <sewn> do you like bspwm?
[2024-03-23T13:39:35Z] <asimovsh> not so much i like it time ago
[2024-03-23T13:39:40Z] <sewn> do you like i3?
[2024-03-23T13:39:46Z] <asimovsh> never used
[2024-03-23T13:40:10Z] <asimovsh> I liked dwm when i used xorg
[2024-03-23T13:40:33Z] <sewn> do you like dwm bar or a fancier bar
[2024-03-23T13:41:07Z] <asimovsh> i dont have a need for bar so not a problem
[2024-03-23T13:41:14Z] <sewn> ok use dwl
[2024-03-23T13:43:58Z] <asimovsh> sewn: are you having problems in foot terminal in alpine?
[2024-03-23T13:44:00Z] <sewn> no
[2024-03-23T13:44:07Z] <asimovsh> my kiss foot is buggy
[2024-03-23T13:44:07Z] <sewn> i like foot(1)
[2024-03-23T13:44:13Z] <sewn> what is the issue..?
[2024-03-23T13:44:39Z] <asimovsh> Evert time i launch a terminal
[2024-03-23T13:44:44Z] <asimovsh> i get 3 lines terminal
[2024-03-23T13:45:04Z] <asimovsh> like \n or it made a enter 2 times
[2024-03-23T13:45:24Z] <sewn> resize your terminal
[2024-03-23T13:45:27Z] <sewn> and observe what happens
[2024-03-23T13:45:43Z] <asimovsh> get a new line
[2024-03-23T13:45:46Z] <sewn> yep
[2024-03-23T13:45:48Z] <sewn> its an ash bug
[2024-03-23T13:45:58Z] <sewn> this happens in st as well
[2024-03-23T13:46:00Z] <sewn> thats how i know
[2024-03-23T13:46:07Z] <asimovsh> alpine solved it?
[2024-03-23T13:46:21Z] <sewn> apparently
[2024-03-23T13:46:26Z] <sewn> i dont know why but the bug is gone on alpine
[2024-03-23T13:46:31Z] <sewn> but it is specific to the shell
[2024-03-23T13:46:38Z] <sewn> if you use oksh, mksh, yash the issue is gone
[2024-03-23T13:47:19Z] <asimovsh> and about the line breaking in typing?
[2024-03-23T13:47:32Z] <sewn> what?
[2024-03-23T13:47:36Z] <sewn> this osunds new
[2024-03-23T13:49:20Z] <asimovsh> seems that the terminal get a line break even the words are not in the last pixel possible in terminal
[2024-03-23T13:50:00Z] <asimovsh> it break a line before the terminal line size maximum
[2024-03-23T13:50:58Z] <sewn> hmm never seen that
[2024-03-23T13:55:48Z] <asimovsh> heres a sample
[2024-03-23T13:56:04Z] <asimovsh> https://0x0.st/Xr7Y.png
[2024-03-23T13:56:40Z] <sewn> foot?
[2024-03-23T13:56:41Z] <sewn> i don't have this issue
[2024-03-23T13:56:53Z] <asimovsh> strange
[2024-03-23T13:56:55Z] <sewn> i think its got to do with stuff like termconfig or ncurses
[2024-03-23T13:56:59Z] <sewn> ash right?
[2024-03-23T13:57:03Z] <asimovsh> ash
[2024-03-23T13:59:54Z] <asimovsh> I think is another ash problem
[2024-03-23T14:00:02Z] <asimovsh> Seems bash not have this issue
[2024-03-23T14:00:07Z] <sewn> interesting
[2024-03-23T14:01:22Z] <asimovsh> can you check if alpine ash have this issue too?
[2024-03-23T14:01:43Z] <sewn> i checked
[2024-03-23T14:01:45Z] <sewn> it doesn't
[2024-03-23T14:01:57Z] <asimovsh> strange
[2024-03-23T14:02:20Z] <asimovsh> you use foot as default terminal?
[2024-03-23T14:04:28Z] <sewn> i do
[2024-03-23T14:07:49Z] <asimovsh> i will look in alpine busybox build
[2024-03-23T14:07:54Z] <asimovsh> maybe some patch solved it
[2024-03-23T14:34:19Z] <thikkl> @asimovsh: if your prompt has escape sequences (like colors) you might have to surround them with \[ and \] so it doesn't count those characters towards the length of text
[2024-03-23T14:34:29Z] <sewn> are you on matrix
[2024-03-23T14:34:47Z] <asimovsh> me?
[2024-03-23T14:34:50Z] <sewn> thikkl
[2024-03-23T14:35:12Z] <thikkl> wdym matrix
[2024-03-23T14:35:26Z] <sewn> nvm
[2024-03-23T14:35:43Z] <asimovsh> thikkl: thats solve one problem
[2024-03-23T14:35:55Z] <asimovsh> But the line problem still remains
[2024-03-23T14:37:45Z] <thikkl> what does it look like now? Same as before?
[2024-03-23T14:37:45Z] <asimovsh> also
[2024-03-23T14:38:01Z] <asimovsh> the breaking line in typing solved
[2024-03-23T14:38:15Z] <asimovsh> but the new line in terminal resize no
[2024-03-23T14:38:44Z] <asimovsh> also looking in alpine build 
[2024-03-23T14:39:11Z] <asimovsh> they have a patch for this problem and descibred it
[2024-03-23T14:39:14Z] <asimovsh> i will try it
[2024-03-23T14:39:22Z] <thikkl> ok
[2024-03-23T14:45:23Z] <thikkl> @sewn I found out what you meant by matrix
[2024-03-23T14:45:23Z] <asimovsh> Bruh
[2024-03-23T14:45:29Z] <asimovsh> wtf 
[2024-03-23T14:45:29Z] <thikkl> I'm not using matrix
[2024-03-23T14:46:06Z] <asimovsh> why the fucking patch command in busybox is wrong?
[2024-03-23T14:46:16Z] <asimovsh> also solved it
[2024-03-23T14:49:05Z] <thikkl> cool
[2024-03-23T14:49:20Z] <asimovsh> For christ
[2024-03-23T14:49:28Z] <asimovsh> this is a simple patch
[2024-03-23T14:49:39Z] <asimovsh> and this problem is been here for years
[2024-03-23T14:50:07Z] <asimovsh> thats why i leaved kiss times ago
[2024-03-23T14:50:19Z] <asimovsh> community is dead 
[2024-03-23T14:58:10Z] <sewn> chill
[2024-03-23T14:58:25Z] <sewn> we all know kiss is dead
[2024-03-23T15:03:39Z] <sewn> LOL WHAT WAIT
[2024-03-23T15:04:04Z] <sewn> oh man what that is actually sad
[2024-03-23T15:04:08Z] <sewn> asimovsh: you're right 
[2024-03-23T15:04:20Z] <sewn> thats just
[2024-03-23T15:04:20Z] <sewn> wow
[2024-03-23T15:04:24Z] <sewn> i dont know what to say
[2024-03-23T15:05:44Z] <asimovsh> that patch is from 2023 jan
[2024-03-23T15:06:17Z] <asimovsh> and are other several patches from alpine
[2024-03-23T15:06:28Z] <asimovsh> saddly
[2024-03-23T15:42:45Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: can you accept my pull request in community?
[2024-03-23T17:45:50Z] <testuser[m]> asimovsh that command was correct
[2024-03-23T17:45:57Z] <testuser[m]> in sources the patches are stored under `patch`
[2024-03-23T17:57:56Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: 
[2024-03-23T17:58:15Z] <asimovsh> the previus command used patch/*.patch
[2024-03-23T17:58:29Z] <asimovsh> the patch files are store in patches dir
[2024-03-23T17:58:53Z] <asimovsh> and i already builded with the previous command and the patch from my new patch file dont worked 
[2024-03-23T17:59:07Z] <asimovsh> i have to change the command
[2024-03-23T17:59:33Z] <asimovsh> also the style guide use what i merged
[2024-03-23T19:07:24Z] <asimovsh> hey guys
[2024-03-23T19:07:43Z] <asimovsh> The make style guide is correct?
[2024-03-23T19:08:16Z] <asimovsh> Using the function mk () cant install correctly gcompat libs
[2024-03-23T19:08:32Z] <asimovsh> I tried but i needed to use other style code
[2024-03-23T19:08:54Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: 
[2024-03-23T20:49:10Z] <kirsty> hello! bit of a weird one but my screen goes black after decompressing/booting kernel? i think it might be drm even though it's enabled? i haven't done firmware because im sure i don't need it but any help is appreciated!! similar to this post just without the firmware bit:
[2024-03-23T20:49:11Z] <kirsty> https://www.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comments/195ya5l/stuck_after_decompressingbooting_linux/
[2024-03-23T21:05:16Z] <asimovsh> i think is related to framebuffer
[2024-03-23T21:06:43Z] <asimovsh> kirsty: add the option CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
[2024-03-23T21:06:49Z] <asimovsh> Maybe solve it
[2024-03-23T21:07:04Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: you know how i can handle codecs in pipewire?
[2024-03-23T21:07:16Z] <asimovsh> I wanna know if my ldac codec is working
[2024-03-23T21:07:22Z] <asimovsh> I builded with it
[2024-03-23T21:07:52Z] <asimovsh> But pipewire needs sbc for bluetooth so i dont know what codec he is using
[2024-03-23T21:12:07Z] <kirsty> added and rebuilt but still the same thing happening :<
[2024-03-23T21:17:45Z] <asimovsh> it just get black screen?
[2024-03-23T21:17:55Z] <asimovsh> Init and go black screen?
[2024-03-23T21:19:05Z] <kirsty> just gets stuck yes, i still think it's somehow a drm/framebuffer issue but i've literally enabled everything i can
[2024-03-23T22:11:56Z] <riteo> sewn, re "gentoo build flags are a good thing" wait didn't we have a discussion a few years ago about how they were a bad idea?
[2024-03-23T22:12:05Z] <riteo> no idea if it was actually you or somebody else
[2024-03-23T22:12:17Z] <sewn> they're bad for kiss because its complicated to implement
[2024-03-23T22:12:27Z] <sewn> otherwise they are very convenient
[2024-03-23T22:12:28Z] <riteo> oh I see
[2024-03-23T22:12:40Z] <sewn> testuser[m]: right?
[2024-03-23T22:12:55Z] <riteo> I mean, they're variables pretty much
[2024-03-23T22:13:22Z] <riteo> can't be too hard to, dunno, store any var named `KISS_FEATURE_*` into a manifest or something
[2024-03-23T22:13:54Z] <riteo> not sure though how _reliable_ feature flags might be
[2024-03-23T22:14:11Z] <riteo> like, you're maintaining exponentially more packages depending on how many flags you have
[2024-03-23T22:14:43Z] <riteo> what is it, 2^nflags?
[2024-03-23T22:15:12Z] <riteo> like, if you have 3 flags it's a bit like actually maintaning 8 packages
[2024-03-23T22:16:33Z] <riteo> I still wonder if there's some alternative to the fork approach or if perhaps it could be made more conveniente
[2024-03-23T22:17:09Z] <riteo> perhaps just some good documentation would help thinking about it (e.g. if you want xwayland support just pass `xwayland=true` or refer to this link for instructions on the available flags`)
[2024-03-23T22:22:24Z] <riteo> the most annoying part is updating though. Luckily there's kiss-outdated but I feel like it could be even better still
[2024-03-23T22:57:42Z] <niceguy10000> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[2024-03-23T23:36:38Z] <asimovsh> riteo: i think it could be a good idea for kiss implement something like flags
[2024-03-23T23:36:46Z] <asimovsh> more convenience in build
[2024-03-23T23:37:25Z] <asimovsh> having to search for everything i want to build is kinda tough
[2024-03-23T23:38:00Z] <asimovsh> also anyone here is making the kiss c packaga manager?