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[2022-02-18T01:30:09Z] <illiliti> https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=icFK1EN9tso
[2022-02-18T01:30:17Z] <illiliti> good presentation about importance of portability, linuxisms in wayland, vendor locks and more
[2022-02-18T03:24:16Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2022-02-18T08:17:00Z] <travankor> https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=KeUsE-3nSes
[2022-02-18T08:18:32Z] <travankor> OpenBSD is BASED!!
[2022-02-18T08:21:33Z] <testuser[m]> https://termbin.com/iy53
[2022-02-18T16:39:04Z] <phinxy> NetBSD is BASED!!
[2022-02-18T16:40:23Z] <phinxy> Have anyone tried to use the GTK+3 with patched icon view: https://github.com/Dudemanguy/gtk
[2022-02-18T16:44:45Z] <phinxy> Vifm with sixel image preview is cooler but a bit slow
[2022-02-18T20:37:39Z] <sad_plan> Hi
[2022-02-18T20:38:53Z] <gully> thought i finally had everything installed right..blank screen after reboot lol
[2022-02-18T20:39:36Z] <rohan> gully: this was VM or you hardware?
[2022-02-18T20:40:08Z] <gully> hardware
[2022-02-18T20:40:23Z] <sad_plan> probably missing gpu drivers. did you build them into the kernel? not as a module
[2022-02-18T20:40:28Z] <sad_plan> missing or wrong
[2022-02-18T20:40:38Z] <sad_plan> or framebuffer drivers
[2022-02-18T20:40:58Z] <gully> great question, this is the first time ive ever built a kernel so most likely missed them
[2022-02-18T20:41:07Z] <gully> also its a chromebook so
[2022-02-18T20:41:15Z] <sad_plan> first time is the hardest
[2022-02-18T20:41:18Z] <gully> may have bitten off more than i can chew lol
[2022-02-18T20:41:38Z] <sad_plan> ah. nice to see someone trying it on different kinds of hardware though
[2022-02-18T20:43:01Z] <gully> yeah i got arch working, found kiss while looking around at arch stuff
[2022-02-18T20:43:03Z] <rohan> maybe is drivers like sad_plan said
[2022-02-18T20:43:05Z] <gully> figured id go for it
[2022-02-18T20:43:25Z] <rohan> if you wanna a good guide for kernel compiling
[2022-02-18T20:43:31Z] <rohan> look at gentoo wiki
[2022-02-18T20:43:37Z] <rohan> maybe you found some good info
[2022-02-18T20:43:59Z] <gully> ill check it out thx
[2022-02-18T20:44:08Z] <rohan> what are you hardware?
[2022-02-18T20:44:14Z] <rohan> intel or amd?
[2022-02-18T20:44:18Z] <sad_plan> chroot into the kiss partition from arch, and compare modules. its a nifty command. I just cant recall whats its called. lemme check
[2022-02-18T20:44:49Z] <sad_plan> make allyesconfig
[2022-02-18T20:45:04Z] <sad_plan> run it inside the kernel dir
[2022-02-18T20:45:08Z] <gully> oh sick
[2022-02-18T20:45:25Z] <sad_plan> and itll show you all the modules that your current kernel (being arch in this case) has loaded up
[2022-02-18T20:45:38Z] <gully> its an asus cx22na, intel n3350
[2022-02-18T20:46:06Z] <gully> cool ill try that
[2022-02-18T20:46:58Z] <sad_plan> its really helpfull imo. as it gives you a reference. also do remember to check if you need to add aditional firmware from linux-firmware. gentoo wiki might help you there
[2022-02-18T20:47:32Z] <sad_plan> I gonna guess that your hardware is not supported nativly in the linux kernel, so additional firmware is likely needed
[2022-02-18T20:49:29Z] <gully> yeah the firmware blobs are for all kinds of shit right? i couldnt really find a good summary of what to pick out in there to copy over
[2022-02-18T20:50:31Z] <sad_plan> yep. gpu, bluetooth, wireless. all kinds of stuff. but to be able to boot, you only need the gpu ones atleast
[2022-02-18T20:51:16Z] <sad_plan> if youre refering to make allyesconfig, it just lists the loaded modules. search for them when running make menuconfig
[2022-02-18T20:54:41Z] <gully> gotcha
[2022-02-18T20:55:13Z] <gully> oh yeah, how do i find out if i need initramfs?
[2022-02-18T20:56:30Z] <sad_plan> you only need it if you wanna use loadable modules. most of us dont use it, but some of us may wish to use it, for whatever reason
[2022-02-18T20:57:41Z] <sad_plan> i.e. if you wanna load up you bluetooth module(s) when you need them, instead of having them built into the kernel.
[2022-02-18T20:59:22Z] <sad_plan> unless you have a really special case in which you specifically need to unload/load modules, I wouldnt bother at all. its just extra stuff for you to figure out
[2022-02-18T20:59:38Z] <gully> ahh i see, makes sense now
[2022-02-18T20:59:56Z] <gully> yeah i was def trying to do it the 'baked in' way
[2022-02-18T21:00:33Z] <sad_plan> its much simpler to do it that way. just click yes, and youre set with said driver :p
[2022-02-18T21:11:49Z] <gully> i was gonna try on a thinkpad first but it the one i got from ebay is nasty as hell
[2022-02-18T21:12:12Z] <gully> gotta deep clean it first
[2022-02-18T21:12:44Z] <sad_plan> bummer
[2022-02-18T21:13:22Z] <sad_plan> in any case, thinkpads can run off of defconfig kernels iirc, so not much is need to make it bootable
[2022-02-18T21:13:31Z] <gully> nice
[2022-02-18T21:13:49Z] <sad_plan> some of them you may just need an additional driver for the wifi. its usually the case anyway