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[2021-09-21T00:01:06Z] <andrei> quit
[2021-09-21T00:11:25Z] <phoebos> akira01: did you mention the patch in the sources file
[2021-09-21T00:11:44Z] <phoebos> add the line 'patches/name.patch' to sources
[2021-09-21T00:11:53Z] <akira01> dammit
[2021-09-21T00:11:58Z] <akira01> i forget thar
[2021-09-21T00:12:06Z] <akira01> thanks
[2021-09-21T00:12:13Z] <phoebos> (:
[2021-09-21T00:12:14Z] <akira01> maybe now i can try again to port gimp
[2021-09-21T00:45:35Z] <Hazoune> do we have logbot here?
[2021-09-21T00:54:05Z] <Hazoune> > After more than 16 years of operation I have made the decision to shutdown LogBot.
[2021-09-21T00:54:09Z] <Hazoune> nevermind.
[2021-09-21T00:54:43Z] <noocsharp> https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux
[2021-09-21T00:55:57Z] <Hazoune> noocsharp, thanks man!
[2021-09-21T01:00:07Z] <noocsharp> np
[2021-09-21T01:35:09Z] <akira01> Gosh
[2021-09-21T01:35:24Z] <acheam> ?
[2021-09-21T01:35:27Z] <akira01> why is so hard to port some big packages
[2021-09-21T01:35:51Z] <acheam> b l o a t
[2021-09-21T01:35:56Z] <Hazoune> because it is big?
[2021-09-21T01:36:01Z] <akira01> yeah
[2021-09-21T01:36:06Z] <akira01> but fuck
[2021-09-21T01:36:11Z] <akira01> is one dependencie
[2021-09-21T01:36:18Z] <akira01> how not works
[2021-09-21T01:36:24Z] <akira01> i hate bloat 
[2021-09-21T01:36:27Z] <acheam> what package
[2021-09-21T01:36:34Z] <akira01> intltool
[2021-09-21T01:36:40Z] <acheam> i have intltool packaged
[2021-09-21T01:36:40Z] <akira01> just need this shit
[2021-09-21T01:36:49Z] <akira01> gosh pls send me
[2021-09-21T01:37:06Z] <akira01> i tried everything to get xml parser module
[2021-09-21T01:37:12Z] <Hazoune> :v
[2021-09-21T01:37:12Z] <akira01> and nothinf
[2021-09-21T01:37:23Z] <acheam> I think I stole it from midfavila actually
[2021-09-21T01:37:31Z] <acheam> because it needs perl-xml which is packaged in his repo
[2021-09-21T01:37:31Z] <akira01> Lol
[2021-09-21T01:37:36Z] <acheam> http://git.armaanb.net/asd-repo/commit/?id=8330ac9638b582ecf4adee21e8f487f62ecfb830
[2021-09-21T01:37:57Z] <acheam> so grab it from https://git.sdf.org/midfavila/kiss-mfavila
[2021-09-21T01:38:23Z] <akira01> thanks
[2021-09-21T01:38:57Z] <akira01> i think with this i can finally build gimp or a least the depends
[2021-09-21T01:39:34Z] <acheam> intltool isnt required to build gimp
[2021-09-21T01:39:45Z] <acheam> https://github.com/eudaldgr/kiss-garbage/tree/master/gfx/gimp
[2021-09-21T01:40:23Z] <akira01> yeah but is to build libmypaint
[2021-09-21T01:40:37Z] <akira01> i tried and told me that a need to install
[2021-09-21T01:40:53Z] <akira01> already used this repo to build
[2021-09-21T01:41:07Z] <akira01> And some packages need some depends 
[2021-09-21T01:41:14Z] <akira01> or not build
[2021-09-21T01:41:15Z] <acheam> build with --enable-i18n=no
[2021-09-21T01:41:27Z] <akira01> thats a thing
[2021-09-21T01:41:39Z] <acheam> for libmypaint
[2021-09-21T01:41:50Z] <acheam> maybe some others too
[2021-09-21T01:41:55Z] <acheam> just follow the repo I sent above
[2021-09-21T01:41:59Z] <acheam> eudalgr is a genius
[2021-09-21T01:42:05Z] <akira01> yeah i followed
[2021-09-21T01:42:19Z] <akira01> what happened to him?
[2021-09-21T01:42:34Z] <acheam> hmm idk
[2021-09-21T01:42:41Z] <akira01> i real hoped he will port openjdk
[2021-09-21T01:43:08Z] <Hazoune> nice repository name, garbage. I'll note that
[2021-09-21T01:46:03Z] <akira01> acheam: --enable-i18n=no not solved
[2021-09-21T01:46:11Z] <akira01> Still need intltool
[2021-09-21T01:46:13Z] <akira01> Anyway
[2021-09-21T01:46:19Z] <akira01> now i have the package
[2021-09-21T01:46:42Z] <acheam> just use his gimp build?
[2021-09-21T01:46:54Z] <acheam> and its deps
[2021-09-21T01:50:28Z] <akira01> not will work
[2021-09-21T01:50:37Z] <akira01> some deps are missing
[2021-09-21T01:51:04Z] <akira01> and he used gimp develop version
[2021-09-21T01:51:17Z] <akira01> who need deps unecessary
[2021-09-21T01:56:51Z] <acheam> then modify it
[2021-09-21T01:56:57Z] <acheam> but at least its a working base to start from
[2021-09-21T01:57:08Z] <acheam> what deps missing?
[2021-09-21T01:58:57Z] <akira01> json-glib
[2021-09-21T01:59:14Z] <akira01> dont how he build libmypaint without intltool
[2021-09-21T01:59:28Z] <acheam> make sure your building his libmypaint package not yours
[2021-09-21T01:59:49Z] <acheam> json-glib was in the glib package just look around for it in git log
[2021-09-21T01:59:57Z] <akira01> appstream-glib is not necessary is just a deps for gimp dev
[2021-09-21T02:00:10Z] <akira01> If it has in glib
[2021-09-21T02:00:22Z] <akira01> so i will have not problem in build what i need
[2021-09-21T02:24:48Z] <GalaxyNova> do you think matrix is *bloated*
[2021-09-21T02:30:19Z] <GalaxyNova> I'm pretty put off by gomuks being a whopping 28 megabytes
[2021-09-21T02:30:35Z] <GalaxyNova> and element is just an electron app
[2021-09-21T02:33:06Z] <acheam> those are client issues not protocol issues
[2021-09-21T02:33:12Z] <acheam> but yes, I do think its a bloated protocol
[2021-09-21T02:33:20Z] <acheam> i've been using xmpp recently and really liking it
[2021-09-21T02:33:25Z] <acheam> the protocol is much more flexible
[2021-09-21T02:33:40Z] <GalaxyNova> oh I've heard of xmpp too
[2021-09-21T02:33:46Z] <GalaxyNova> what client did you try
[2021-09-21T02:35:31Z] <acheam> profanity and yaxim
[2021-09-21T04:12:07Z] <Hazoune> has anyone tried the labwc?
[2021-09-21T04:12:39Z] <GalaxyNova> the compositor?
[2021-09-21T04:13:08Z] <Hazoune> it is like openbox
[2021-09-21T04:13:11Z] <Hazoune> but for wayland
[2021-09-21T04:47:03Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-09-21T04:48:45Z] <testuser[m]> GalaxyNova: that's just go packages in general, but yeah there is a lot of feature creep in the protocol aswell 
[2021-09-21T04:49:11Z] <testuser[m]> But that's what you gotta do if you want regular people to try it
[2021-09-21T04:49:15Z] <testuser[m]> Like shitcord  users
[2021-09-21T04:49:46Z] <GalaxyNova> yeah...
[2021-09-21T04:49:56Z] <GalaxyNova> I'm trying to migrate my school club from discord to matrix
[2021-09-21T04:50:01Z] <GalaxyNova> people are resisting
[2021-09-21T04:50:04Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-09-21T04:52:58Z] <testuser[m]> I have a couple of discord friends on matrix but whenever they use they just talk in the shitcord bridge I'm running since there's no one on matrix to talk to lol
[2021-09-21T04:53:12Z] <testuser[m]> So it's not really a huge step up from shitcord
[2021-09-21T04:53:18Z] <testuser[m]> Apart from the spyware client
[2021-09-21T04:57:03Z] <testuser[m]> Also element doesn't have the best UX so...
[2021-09-21T05:05:01Z] <GalaxyNova> not to mention
[2021-09-21T05:05:06Z] <GalaxyNova> it doesn't quite work on webkit
[2021-09-21T05:05:25Z] <testuser[m]> Oh i was talking about the android ap
[2021-09-21T05:05:26Z] <testuser[m]> App
[2021-09-21T05:05:34Z] <GalaxyNova> oh yeah that as well
[2021-09-21T05:05:42Z] <testuser[m]> webkit is probably too bad to support modern enterprise grade js frameworks
[2021-09-21T05:05:49Z] <GalaxyNova> you don't get a server list like you do on discord
[2021-09-21T05:43:06Z] <aws> yep
[2021-09-21T14:17:28Z] <f1> hi
[2021-09-21T14:17:32Z] <vulpine> hi
[2021-09-21T14:18:02Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2021-09-21T14:18:36Z] <Hazoune> hi
[2021-09-21T14:18:52Z] <f1> how are y'all doing
[2021-09-21T14:18:57Z] <testuser[m]> nice
[2021-09-21T14:19:11Z] <Hazoune> yes
[2021-09-21T16:47:20Z] <Guest976> hi. i'm going to switch to jabber. can you advise on a secure xmpp server?
[2021-09-21T16:50:35Z] <omanom> ejabberd is one option
[2021-09-21T16:51:43Z] <Guest976> oh, I noticed that there was already talk about messengers here today
[2021-09-21T16:51:54Z] <Guest976> omanom: thanks
[2021-09-21T16:51:59Z] <omanom> https://blog.windfluechter.net/2020/01/07/1754-xmpp-prosody-ejabberd/
[2021-09-21T16:52:33Z] <omanom> their subsequent post "XMPP - Fun with Clients" has a little more information as well
[2021-09-21T16:53:15Z] <Guest976> omanom: thanks again :D
[2021-09-21T16:54:04Z] <omanom> oh cool and they've got some even newer posts i haven't seen, like https://blog.windfluechter.net/2020/06/19/1759-jitsi-meet-and-ejabberd/
[2021-09-21T19:44:06Z] <Guest6012> Hi! It's me again. Is there a good command line client for Jabber?
[2021-09-21T19:47:05Z] <omanom> i believe profanity was recommended recently
[2021-09-21T19:49:06Z] <Guest6012> Thanks :D
[2021-09-21T19:50:09Z] <omanom> some other client applications like weechat might have XMPP plugins/extensions https://github.com/sleduc/weechat-xmpp
[2021-09-21T19:50:40Z] <omanom> (catgirl and kirc do not, on the off chance you're using one of those)
[2021-09-21T19:51:24Z] <Guest6012> Oh, ok
[2021-09-21T19:52:03Z] <omanom> i think Pidgin has a console version called Finch, I don't know whether the console version supports XMPP though
[2021-09-21T19:53:40Z] <omanom> then there's some suckless options: https://mcabber.com/ https://github.com/cdidier/irssi-xmpp
[2021-09-21T19:53:57Z] <omanom> i don't know their status regarding compatibility / keeping up to date
[2021-09-21T19:54:24Z] <Guest6012> omanom: Thanks, I'll try one of them :D
[2021-09-21T19:58:41Z] <omanom> there's also bitlebee https://wiki.bitlbee.org/
[2021-09-21T21:06:31Z] <acheam> irssi is not suckless lmao
[2021-09-21T21:06:41Z] <acheam> i use profanity
[2021-09-21T21:06:55Z] <acheam> but idk how it compares to mcabber
[2021-09-21T21:07:19Z] <acheam> https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-14-04-and-16-04-lifecycle-extended-to-ten-years
[2021-09-21T21:25:59Z] <phoebos> mcabber was /slightly/ more difficult to package and use for me, compared to profanity
[2021-09-21T21:29:49Z] <acheam> really?
[2021-09-21T21:30:07Z] <acheam> hmm it uses m4