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2021-04-02T01:42:42 #kisslinux <GMR> hello
2021-04-02T01:44:30 #kisslinux <acheam> hi GMR J
2021-04-02T01:44:56 #kisslinux <GMR> hiii bro
2021-04-02T01:45:52 #kisslinux <GMR> i want to join hacking groups !
2021-04-02T01:45:59 #kisslinux <GMR> help plz
2021-04-02T01:46:47 #kisslinux <acheam> if you want to be a 733t hackerz, there is one crucial step:
2021-04-02T01:46:58 #kisslinux <acheam> create an altar to Dylan Araps, and light an effigy
2021-04-02T01:48:00 #kisslinux <acheam> everything after that comes natrually
2021-04-02T01:49:07 #kisslinux <GMR> sorry i don't understand what are you saying
2021-04-02T01:50:05 #kisslinux <necromansy> lmao
2021-04-02T01:50:07 #kisslinux <acheam> dilyn: what 733t tips do you have for our boy GMR
2021-04-02T01:50:09 #kisslinux <acheam> oh
2021-04-02T02:08:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lolol
2021-04-02T02:11:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Wait, were you suggesting that GMR burn Dylan Araps in effigy??
2021-04-02T02:12:57 #kisslinux <acheam> an altar of dylan, an effigy of poettering
2021-04-02T02:13:12 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Ah lol
2021-04-02T02:13:37 #kisslinux <kiedtl> 733t l00n1x haggerz kissing each other
2021-04-02T03:07:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> man if only I were a 1337 hax0r
2021-04-02T09:17:28 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> hi
2021-04-02T11:48:02 #kisslinux <acheam> hey testuser_[m]
2021-04-02T12:46:08 #kisslinux <icy> h
2021-04-02T12:46:33 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i
2021-04-02T12:47:26 #kisslinux <icy> what's goos
2021-04-02T12:47:29 #kisslinux <icy> good*
2021-04-02T12:47:34 #kisslinux <icy> lol
2021-04-02T12:54:28 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hi
2021-04-02T16:00:06 #kisslinux <acheam> new word song
2021-04-02T16:00:22 #kisslinux <acheam> I decided to take liberty with the song
2021-04-02T16:00:31 #kisslinux <acheam> it is a song of spoken word
2021-04-02T17:07:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> nice
2021-04-02T17:09:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> my biggest fear is somehow exposing my private key when signing files. I'm so dumb about gpg et al
2021-04-02T17:15:09 #kisslinux <konimex> yay for minisign
2021-04-02T17:18:30 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> git commits can only be signed with gpg though right ?
2021-04-02T17:20:46 #kisslinux <konimex> he said signing files though, not signing git commits
2021-04-02T17:20:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> if you take a peak at their code for enabling commit signing it's actually really small and I don't think it's technically impossible to switch
2021-04-02T17:21:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> but yes I'm talking about files not commits. I've chosen to ignore commits because... too stressful
2021-04-02T17:23:13 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> oh looks like you can https://andre.arko.net/2021/02/06/signing-git-commits-without-gpg/
2021-04-02T17:23:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> I love his 3 point strategy. Very into it
2021-04-02T17:23:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> >> uses brew
2021-04-02T17:24:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> delete this webpage
2021-04-02T17:25:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> oooooo his alias looks interesting though
2021-04-02T17:27:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> I wonder what bpb looks like internally and how what it spits out is different from what rnp spits out.
2021-04-02T17:27:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> my problem with getting rnp to work is whatever it gives to git as a signature, is different enough from gpg's output that git can't use it
2021-04-02T17:29:12 #kisslinux <konimex> in my experience, rnp's armored output has CRLF so it might play a part (I'm not an expert so I might be wrong)
2021-04-02T17:29:32 #kisslinux <dilyn> I think that's exactly it
2021-04-02T17:29:42 #kisslinux <konimex> iirc I opened an issue about it
2021-04-02T17:29:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> just from visually comparing the outputs
2021-04-02T17:30:00 #kisslinux <dilyn> yeah I saw an open issue from a few years back that referenced making it work with rnp through some means
2021-04-02T17:30:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> it isn't technically difficult outside of the, what I'm guessing are all just formatting problems
2021-04-02T17:30:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> I had a small script in $PATH called gpg that just turned -bsau into --sign --detach --armor and I was prompted just fine
2021-04-02T17:33:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-static/releases/tag/2021.04-1 look how cute and tiny KISS can be
2021-04-02T17:33:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> less than 50MB fully extracted
2021-04-02T17:34:36 #kisslinux <konimex> anyway, as for bpb, from a cursory look at their source, it looks like they just generated an ed25519 keypair and make a PGP format-compliant output
2021-04-02T17:34:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> makes sense
2021-04-02T17:35:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> Time to get on those devs so I can stop using Yet Another GNU Project
2021-04-02T17:39:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> This is the first community I've seen where people religiously hate both GNU *and* Rust lmao
2021-04-02T17:39:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> just me
2021-04-02T17:40:26 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Doesn't mid & friends dislike gnew as well?
2021-04-02T17:40:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> and I'm fine with rust fwiw
2021-04-02T17:40:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> s/Doesn't/Don't/
2021-04-02T17:40:34 #kisslinux <kissbot> <kiedtl> Don't mid & friends dislike gnew as well?
2021-04-02T17:40:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> mid lubs gnu
2021-04-02T17:40:51 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nevermind, my lack of engagement here is showing :V
2021-04-02T17:42:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-04-02T17:42:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> you're right about rust though. several people here are very against it
2021-04-02T17:42:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'm fine with, aside from it being so damn slow
2021-04-02T17:43:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> also rustaceans are in general... cultic
2021-04-02T17:44:13 #kisslinux <konimex> my only dislike of rust is its bootstrapping
2021-04-02T17:45:25 #kisslinux <konimex> and with my toolchain it's a double whammy (well, it's resolved now in a very hacky way)
2021-04-02T17:47:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> hacks are the best ways to solve problems
2021-04-02T17:49:07 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Definitely, because you get to mentally re-solve them everytime you look at the hack again
2021-04-02T17:49:27 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >also rustaceans are in general... cultic
2021-04-02T17:49:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> I love resolving my hacks because the comment explaining it is usually just 'fuck this, i'm out'
2021-04-02T17:50:02 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Not to start another hellwar, but my experience is that rust dislikers are cultic lol
2021-04-02T17:50:08 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lo
2021-04-02T17:50:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> I mean they definitely are
2021-04-02T17:50:10 #kisslinux <kiedtl> lol
2021-04-02T17:50:32 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> i "hate" rust only for it's build times
2021-04-02T17:50:37 #kisslinux <testuser_[m]> also firefox keeps breaking with every other rust update
2021-04-02T17:51:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Generally speaking, the level of momesters in the rust community is the same as with every hot new language.
2021-04-02T17:51:08 #kisslinux <dilyn> there are reasonable people on both sides of that discussion; I most certainly also have a disdain for the analogous people on the Pro-C side
2021-04-02T17:51:08 #kisslinux <kiedtl> s/momesters/memesters/
2021-04-02T17:51:09 #kisslinux <kissbot> <kiedtl> Generally speaking, the level of memesters in the rust community is the same as with every hot new language.
2021-04-02T17:51:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm in the middle, I hate and love both C and Rust
2021-04-02T17:52:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> I don't personally care so much about any particular language, except C++. Fuck C++.
2021-04-02T17:52:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> I can't read any of it. It's so painful.
2021-04-02T17:53:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Same. Syntax and template nonsense is whack
2021-04-02T17:53:45 #kisslinux <kiedtl> >I can't read any of it
2021-04-02T17:53:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> Not having a string parser, also whack
2021-04-02T17:53:57 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Have I introduced you to FORTH my frend
2021-04-02T17:54:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> out
2021-04-02T17:54:16 #kisslinux <kiedtl> no u
2021-04-02T17:54:30 #kisslinux <dilyn> >=|
2021-04-02T17:54:38 #kisslinux <kiedtl> FORTH is ultimate KISS
2021-04-02T17:54:44 #kisslinux <kiedtl> begone KISS hater
2021-04-02T17:55:01 #kisslinux <kiedtl> concatenative languages are the way
2021-04-02T17:55:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> A language so bad their creators couldn't even give it FIRST place smh
2021-04-02T17:55:19 #kisslinux <kiedtl> no, they gave it TOS place lol
2021-04-02T17:56:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2021-04-02T21:16:16 #kisslinux <midfavila> hey so uh weird question
2021-04-02T21:16:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> but was sls removed as a privilege escalation option for KISS recently?
2021-04-02T21:16:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> if so, why?
2021-04-02T21:28:56 #kisslinux <merakor2> It was renamed as ssu
2021-04-02T21:29:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> Ah. Yes, that would make sense
2021-04-02T21:44:34 #kisslinux <acheam> lol you really don't keep track of the community repos
2021-04-02T21:48:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> i just updated for the first time in like three months
2021-04-02T21:48:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> leave me alone
2021-04-02T21:49:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> don't BULLY me
2021-04-02T22:45:12 #kisslinux <kiedtl> o_o
2021-04-02T23:24:14 #kisslinux <riteo> hi!
2021-04-02T23:29:02 #kisslinux <acheam> hi