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2021-01-30T00:58:07 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> ayy i got it to compile
2021-01-30T00:58:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> only problem is it doesn't print anything when you press a key
2021-01-30T00:58:39 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://bugs.gentoo.org/716212 gentoo ftw
2021-01-30T01:02:20 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> so stdin->_cnt and __freadahead(stdin) should theoretically give the same result
2021-01-30T01:55:01 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i lied. for glibc the count is (stdin->_IO_read_end - stdin->_IO_read_start)
2021-01-30T01:55:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> __freadahead for musl
2021-01-30T02:55:14 #kisslinux <dilynm> tracer: can't reproduce the issues you're having building KDE; I just finished building the whole default plasma-desktop stack from a fresh chroot, so any issues you're having are interactions with your own system :/
2021-01-30T07:59:52 #kisslinux <midfavila1> So how's everyone tonight?
2021-01-30T08:02:19 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> fine
2021-01-30T09:33:27 #kisslinux <tracer> Good morning
2021-01-30T09:52:02 #kisslinux <tracer> Thats strange: /usr/bin/kiss: line 202: 64364 Segmentation fault (core dumped) curl "$src" -fLo "./${dest:-.}/${src##*/}" , only for one specific file ERROR net-tools Failed to download https://github.com/ecki/net-tools/archive/v2.10.tar.gz
2021-01-30T15:00:02 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> midfavila1 https://pastebin.com/raw/Z2FkiGMR i got c-kermit to compile with these changes
2021-01-30T15:01:03 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> oh and in the makefile make sure to change the prefix to /usr, line 823 or so
2021-01-30T16:30:49 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Im still trying to figure out how to build the virtualbox kernel modules, if anyone has any suggestions, im all ears. I also stumbled upon a video on this, the only difference here was they ran gentoo, and was able to build/install it, but when running modprobe, they got the same error as me basiclly. it was due to kernel configs with signing the modules. I compiled a new kernel without this, just to check wether on not it worked, aa
2021-01-30T16:46:58 #kisslinux <acheam> Tangentially related to your question, but does it need to be virtualbox? I've recently switched to QEMU/KVM and find it much faster and stabler than virtualbox. The only con with it is that passing through devices is more difficult
2021-01-30T16:59:42 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> you should be able to just build the modules on the host outside chroot and modprobe them
2021-01-30T18:35:15 #kisslinux <sad_plan> oh ffs, what I wrote never came through..
2021-01-30T18:37:51 #kisslinux <sad_plan> acheam; I could, im just unfamiliar with kvm/qemu, and Ive used virtualbox in the past, and I ennjoy its convinience. my main reason for it is inherently just whonix, aswell as being able to check out other distros aswell, without hassle. but I am obviously also interested in learning new stuff, so Im not ruling that out of the equation either. whonix does also have kvm build aswell, im just not sur how it works.
2021-01-30T18:39:35 #kisslinux <sad_plan> testuser: I would, but the build fails, and I dont know how to fix it (yet anyway..). you could try to build it yourself, if you want to. and possibly walk you though the steps you used
2021-01-30T18:40:11 #kisslinux <sad_plan> https://pastebin.com/BcgqvCe3 output on make on my ed
2021-01-30T18:40:28 #kisslinux <sad_plan> https://dev.gentoo.org/~polynomial-c/virtualbox/ dir to find modules
2021-01-30T18:40:59 #kisslinux <sad_plan> theres a set of patches in the folder on top, but I dunno how to use them. I tried a couple of them o vboxdrv, but it gave me some erros
2021-01-30T19:05:10 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> sad_plan you might've run `make clean` once after building the kernel, try `make`-ing it again, and then the module
2021-01-30T19:05:10 #kisslinux <testuser[m]_> and the patches aren't related to modules
2021-01-30T19:31:05 #kisslinux <sad_plan> I dont recall doing so, but i reran it anyway, and making vboxdrv gave same output
2021-01-30T19:42:17 #kisslinux <acheam> sad_plan: thats fair. Qemu isn't that complicated once you get used to the syntax, though. IMO its worth it to learn if you have a free second. Your existing virtual disk drives can be easily converted.
2021-01-30T19:48:09 #kisslinux <sad_plan> cool, I currently have no vdd's, except in my artix partition, but thats going to go away, once I get settled in on Kiss linux, which Id hope be soon. gonna buy a new nvme later aswell, so was hoping to be *done* by then, so I could do a fresh install on the new drive :p
2021-01-30T19:48:39 #kisslinux <sad_plan> in any case, Ill look into using qemu aswell.
2021-01-30T19:53:27 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://blog.z3bra.org/2016/01/make-your-own-distro.html this might be a fun read if people haven't seen it. a lot of his goals were similar to Dylan's
2021-01-30T19:54:42 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://blog.z3bra.org/2016/03/hand-crafted-containers.html this has some stuff regarding chroot environments that might be useful to read
2021-01-30T19:55:19 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://drewdevault.com/2018/09/10/Getting-started-with-qemu.html and drew devault has a piece on starting with qemu which you might like to read
2021-01-30T19:56:02 #kisslinux <sad_plan> making my own distro is always an interesting read.
2021-01-30T20:14:38 #kisslinux <kaicyt-> Might be a weird question, but when was the last time anyone has heard of dylan? I'm getting worried.
2021-01-30T20:15:36 #kisslinux <sad_plan> iirc 28. nov? i belive Dylin said so earlier, or someone else. I dont recall
2021-01-30T20:18:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> that's essentially right. you can check his last github contribution to get the rough time: https://github.com/dylanaraps
2021-01-30T20:19:19 #kisslinux <kaicyt-> I did check that, that's the reason why I worry.
2021-01-30T20:19:28 #kisslinux <sad_plan> his last activity on reddit aswell is just why of 70 days aswell. I checked the other day
2021-01-30T20:19:39 #kisslinux <sad_plan> shy * not why
2021-01-30T20:19:52 #kisslinux <sad_plan> how does the kissbot work to correct? Ive seen several people using it
2021-01-30T20:24:42 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> its a patched version of sedbot https://tildegit.org/ben/sedbot so the arguments are similar to what sed uses
2021-01-30T20:25:11 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> s/patched/PATCHED/
2021-01-30T20:25:12 #kisslinux <kissbot> <ominous_anonymou> its a PATCHED version of sedbot https://tildegit.org/ben/sedbot so the arguments are similar to what sed uses
2021-01-30T20:25:28 #kisslinux <sad_plan> aah, I see
2021-01-30T20:25:35 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> first "argument" is the substring you want replaced, second "argument" is what to replace it with
2021-01-30T20:25:35 #kisslinux <sad_plan> s/i/IIII
2021-01-30T20:26:04 #kisslinux <sad_plan> foo: s/I/iii
2021-01-30T20:26:05 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i don't know if it only looks at your most-recent line or what
2021-01-30T20:26:14 #kisslinux <sad_plan> perhaps id does
2021-01-30T20:26:15 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> and make sure to have the trailing /
2021-01-30T20:26:30 #kisslinux <sad_plan> yeah, I forgot about that. lets see
2021-01-30T20:27:03 #kisslinux <sad_plan> maaybe it doesnt work in birch?
2021-01-30T20:27:29 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i don't know, it should -- it shouldn't be dependent on the user client
2021-01-30T20:27:40 #kisslinux <sad_plan> hm
2021-01-30T20:27:55 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> s/i/I/
2021-01-30T20:27:55 #kisslinux <kissbot> <ominous_anonymou> I don't know, it should -- it shouldn't be dependent on the user client
2021-01-30T20:28:36 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> foo
2021-01-30T20:28:41 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> s/foo/bar/
2021-01-30T20:28:42 #kisslinux <kissbot> <ominous_anonymou> bar
2021-01-30T20:30:05 #kisslinux <sad_plan> do you tag kissbot? in the git it uses its own name as a tag. like this; sad_plan: followed by the command
2021-01-30T20:32:59 #kisslinux <sad_plan> .+/s/do/Do
2021-01-30T20:33:12 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> no, i don't do anything, i just type s/original/replacement/
2021-01-30T20:33:26 #kisslinux <sad_plan> ah
2021-01-30T20:33:31 #kisslinux <sad_plan> s/ah/aah
2021-01-30T20:33:32 #kisslinux <kissbot> <sad_plan> aah
2021-01-30T20:33:37 #kisslinux <sad_plan> finallyy
2021-01-30T20:34:17 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> i think it's whole-word matching only
2021-01-30T20:35:33 #kisslinux <sad_plan> maybe, but it was simpler than I thought. I was under the impression that you typed something more than just s/something/somethingelse
2021-01-30T20:36:04 #kisslinux <sad_plan> likely with a / first, but it didnt work. but I know now. cheers
2021-01-30T20:46:50 #kisslinux <sad_plan> has anyone tried the glazier wm? from the same guy linked earlier. z3bra
2021-01-30T20:46:55 #kisslinux <sad_plan> looks interesting, aswell as really small
2021-01-30T20:47:08 #kisslinux <sad_plan> source is less than 4kb
2021-01-30T21:51:53 #kisslinux <aarng> 20 mins ca
2021-01-30T21:53:03 #kisslinux <midfavila1> the only super minimalist window managers I've been interested in are wmx and wind
2021-01-30T21:53:23 #kisslinux <midfavila1> well, and twm/ctwm, but I don't think those qualify as "minimalist"
2021-01-30T21:53:37 #kisslinux <midfavila1> they're just more elegant window managers, from a more... civilized time :p
2021-01-30T21:54:15 #kisslinux <midfavila1> http://windwm.sourceforge.net/screenshot.png
2021-01-30T21:54:44 #kisslinux <midfavila1> it's not much to look at, but it's nice in its own way
2021-01-30T21:57:50 #kisslinux <midfavila1> https://www.all-day-breakfast.com/wm2/
2021-01-30T21:57:55 #kisslinux <midfavila1> wmx is wm2 extended
2021-01-30T21:58:05 #kisslinux <midfavila1> and it has super cool sideways titlebars
2021-01-30T23:38:22 #kisslinux <sad_plan> Midfavila: really oldschool. Reminds me of w95 tbh.
2021-01-30T23:47:02 #kisslinux <sad_plan> But yeah, it looked cool having sideways panel. Havent seen that alog tbh. Original.
2021-01-30T23:47:33 #kisslinux <sad_plan> s/panel/titlebars
2021-01-30T23:47:34 #kisslinux <kissbot> <sad_plan> But yeah, it looked cool having sideways titlebars. Havent seen that alog tbh. Original.
2021-01-30T23:48:21 #kisslinux <sad_plan> s/alog/alot
2021-01-30T23:48:21 #kisslinux <kissbot> <sad_plan> But yeah, it looked cool having sideways panel. Havent seen that alot tbh. Original.