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2020-09-24T03:30:27 #kisslinux <admicos> woo got minecraft working https://ebc.li/6rqw.png
2020-09-24T03:30:36 #kisslinux <admicos> wayland required some hackery but it runs now
2020-09-24T03:34:15 #kisslinux <admicos> for anyone wanting minecraft on wayland: get glfw (with some wayland patches) and multimc (the only sane launcher) from my repo, and throw this in your java arguments: "-Dorg.lwjgl.glfw.libname=/usr/lib/libglfw.so"
2020-09-24T04:29:30 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> Ooo, I've been using the flatpak for that but dropping that would always be nice
2020-09-24T04:31:51 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> admicos: btw, sorry for taking so long to merge your font PRs. I saw them and then forgot because github never shows them on the main page for me
2020-09-24T04:31:57 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> They're all good now
2020-09-24T04:32:40 #kisslinux <admicos> himmalerin_kirc: thanks!
2020-09-24T04:32:56 #kisslinux <admicos> i was also planning to package noto cjk but the download is huge and my internet just couldn't cope with it
2020-09-24T04:33:36 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> I was sure I had that in there
2020-09-24T04:33:50 #kisslinux <admicos> noto itself is in here
2020-09-24T04:33:58 #kisslinux <admicos> cjk versions are not
2020-09-24T04:34:03 #kisslinux <admicos> they're separate because they are huge
2020-09-24T04:34:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> Oh maybe I'm thinking of source-han-sans. I can work on that tomorrow if you want
2020-09-24T04:34:15 #kisslinux <admicos> yeah, source-han-sans covers most of that's needed
2020-09-24T04:34:15 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> ah yeah
2020-09-24T04:34:21 #kisslinux <admicos> mostly for the shruf emoji and such
2020-09-24T04:34:24 #kisslinux <admicos> shrug*
2020-09-24T04:46:34 #kisslinux <admicos> also a note on minecraft: versions before 1.13 that use lwjgl 2 will probably not work, even under X11 (due to openal stuff iirc)
2020-09-24T04:46:53 #kisslinux <admicos> so if you're playing modded you might want to keep using flatpak for a while
2020-09-24T04:55:46 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> got it, thanks for the heads up!
2020-09-24T05:14:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-09-24T05:14:23 #kisslinux <admicos> o
2020-09-24T05:27:06 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> hello!
2020-09-24T07:09:19 #kisslinux <konimex> minecraft? I'm assuming the java there is pre-built?
2020-09-24T10:25:05 #kisslinux <ramiferous> anyone here use dylan's fff file browser?
2020-09-24T10:25:32 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Uh any reason? Or just looking for fellow users?
2020-09-24T10:26:08 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I do have a question about how to edit the way files are opened etc
2020-09-24T10:27:01 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You can specify the opener by setting the FFF_OPENER env var
2020-09-24T10:29:23 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ok cool, so for example if I wanted to open .png .jpg files in feh but I want to specify the geometry such as 'feh -g 700x400 --scale-down'
2020-09-24T10:32:39 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Hmm... you could call a script with something like `case $(file -bi "$1") in image/png*|image/jpg*) feh -g 700x400 --scale-down "$1" ;; *) xdg-open "$1" ;; esac`
2020-09-24T10:32:45 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Not tested or anything, just a rough example
2020-09-24T10:34:18 #kisslinux <ramiferous> I'll give it a try, cheers
2020-09-24T10:37:59 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Ah, looks like the mimetype for jpg is image/jpeg. Other than that, it seems to work
2020-09-24T10:40:42 #kisslinux <ramiferous> sweet!
2020-09-24T10:41:23 #kisslinux <ramiferous> can you pastbin the script for me plz? I dont really know what I'm doing :p
2020-09-24T10:44:21 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You can just place the script in your PATH with #!?bin/sh on the first line then make it executable (chmod +x yourfilename). Then you can add `export FFF_OPENER=yourfilename` in your .bashrc or whatever
2020-09-24T10:45:18 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I would upload it, but it wouldn't help much; tHe only step it would help with is adding #!/bin/sh on the first line.
2020-09-24T10:45:26 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ahh yep, I think I can do that
2020-09-24T10:47:19 #kisslinux <ramiferous> just past that line after the shebang as a one liner?
2020-09-24T10:47:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> o/
2020-09-24T10:47:44 #kisslinux <ramiferous> oh hi o/
2020-09-24T10:48:09 #kisslinux <Crestwave> o
2020-09-24T10:48:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: shfm works fine other than what's in the PR?
2020-09-24T10:48:55 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I didn't notice any other issues on termux so far
2020-09-24T10:48:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nice
2020-09-24T10:49:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll be adding file operations soon
2020-09-24T10:50:36 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ramiferous: Yeah, it should work as a one-liner. Just change image/jpg to image/jpeg
2020-09-24T10:52:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Crestwave: Did you see the file_escape function? That was a doozy to implement
2020-09-24T10:53:43 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Yeah I didn't know there was a [[:cntrl:]]. Nice job
2020-09-24T10:54:55 #kisslinux <Crestwave> If you're referring to the looping, I'm familiar with it from my bf interpreter ;)
2020-09-24T10:55:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-09-24T11:02:11 #kisslinux <ramiferous> What was the motifation to write shfm ?
2020-09-24T11:02:23 #kisslinux <ramiferous> *motivation
2020-09-24T11:02:46 #kisslinux <ramiferous> and what are the main differences to fff?
2020-09-24T11:03:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> To remove the bash dependency
2020-09-24T11:04:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> kiss has no dependency on bash which is why I'm writing POSIX shell alternatives to my bash stuff
2020-09-24T11:05:47 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ahh ok, so it has the same functionality as fff?
2020-09-24T11:06:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Also to stick to POSIX stuff)
2020-09-24T11:07:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The posix shell versions of things tend to have less features (sometimes language restriction, now unwanted feature, etc).
2020-09-24T11:07:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> More or less: bash + lots of features vs posix shell + minimal set of features
2020-09-24T11:08:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> For instance, I don't think shfm will ever have image support
2020-09-24T11:08:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or LS_COLORS support
2020-09-24T11:10:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See "implementation details" towards the bottom of the README https://github.com/dylanaraps/shfm You may find it interesting
2020-09-24T11:10:31 #kisslinux <ramiferous> awesome, cheers.
2020-09-24T11:11:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There are also two opener script examples in the README which should also work with fff
2020-09-24T11:15:26 #kisslinux <ramiferous> Crestwave, the script works, thanks maate.. But lets say I wanted to do the same thing with video files opened in mpv ?
2020-09-24T11:18:48 #kisslinux <ramiferous> dylanaraps, will have a look
2020-09-24T11:50:39 #kisslinux <ramiferous> fyi https://www.reddit.com/r/spectrwm/comments/iy22sz/quirks/
2020-09-24T11:58:26 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ramiferous: You can add an additional case like `video/*) mpv "$1" ;;`
2020-09-24T12:01:59 #kisslinux <ramiferous> so video/*.mp4|....
2020-09-24T12:02:41 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Nah, video/* matches all videos
2020-09-24T12:04:30 #kisslinux <ramiferous> ahhh ok cool
2020-09-24T12:05:02 #kisslinux <ramiferous> and for sound files?
2020-09-24T12:08:54 #kisslinux <Crestwave> audio/*
2020-09-24T12:09:13 #kisslinux <ramiferous> of course.
2020-09-24T12:30:10 #kisslinux <konimex> dylan: what's your stance on community packages that needed its own user for daemon?
2020-09-24T12:31:30 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> in sabotage, the runit service script takes care that on loading the service the user is created if it doesn't exist
2020-09-24T12:32:38 #kisslinux <konimex> and if the user is not needed, the user is removed?
2020-09-24T12:32:56 #kisslinux <konimex> i.e. upon shutdown of the script
2020-09-24T12:33:22 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> https://github.com/sabotage-linux/sabotage/blob/master/KEEP/services/tor
2020-09-24T12:33:49 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> well, if you dont need the service that needs a user, why would you start/enable the service?
2020-09-24T12:33:57 #kisslinux <konimex> true
2020-09-24T12:55:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The wallpaper daemon is also used when setting the background to a hex color :(
2020-09-24T13:50:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I just found where sway sets the default background color and changed it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
2020-09-24T14:23:41 #kisslinux <claudia02> o/
2020-09-24T14:24:34 #kisslinux <claudia02> Can one do something like, raise the window only by 'super + mouse1' on sway?
2020-09-24T14:25:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> Basically the behaviour like eg sowm does.
2020-09-24T16:39:29 #kisslinux <technologybad> Yo
2020-09-24T17:22:36 #kisslinux <merakor> Docker on kiss/carbs
2020-09-24T17:22:54 #kisslinux <merakor> https://github.com/cemkeylan/cpt-docker
2020-09-24T17:39:43 #kisslinux <admicos> oh hey proper docker packages. better than dumping all their binaries into a folder and running dockerd by hand i guess :p
2020-09-24T18:34:17 #kisslinux <merakor> admicos: It's still WIP though :D
2020-09-24T18:34:31 #kisslinux <admicos> merakor: isn't everything?
2020-09-24T18:37:33 #kisslinux <merakor> That would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy
2020-09-24T18:37:36 #kisslinux <merakor> :P
2020-09-24T18:44:41 #kisslinux <frogchair> :)
2020-09-24T19:08:44 #kisslinux <frogchair> How does KISS hold up in terms of wifi card support...?
2020-09-24T19:09:42 #kisslinux <merakor> KISS doesn't come with a prebuilt kernel
2020-09-24T19:10:35 #kisslinux <merakor> Since wifi cards are configured from the kernel, you will need to do it yourself
2020-09-24T19:11:16 #kisslinux <frogchair> Would you concider that process 'complicated' or is it just another thing you gotta do.
2020-09-24T19:12:13 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> it's quite some effort to assemble the right config flags for all kernel features one needs
2020-09-24T19:12:32 #kisslinux <merakor> It's not complicated, but it's a bit of a hassle when you are doing it the first time
2020-09-24T19:12:41 #kisslinux <frogchair> But I suppose there are docs for that process...?
2020-09-24T19:12:55 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> the best docs are the gentoo website
2020-09-24T19:12:58 #kisslinux <merakor> Gentoo wiki is a good place to look
2020-09-24T19:13:09 #kisslinux <frogchair> Hmm, Ok
2020-09-24T19:13:20 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> you will probably need 20+ iterations to get the config you desire
2020-09-24T19:14:03 #kisslinux <frogchair> Does it make a difference if I have a proprietary wifi card or is that just the linux-libre distros?
2020-09-24T19:14:09 #kisslinux <frogchair> Like some Intel card...
2020-09-24T19:14:52 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> i'd recommend to use https://github.com/sabotage-linux/sabotage/blob/master/KEEP/linux.config for a start, it's quite slim yet has most stuff for mainstream intel-based systems
2020-09-24T19:14:58 #kisslinux <kisslinuxuser> you need to choose the kernel yourself
2020-09-24T19:15:43 #kisslinux <frogchair> Thanks I'll look into that.
2020-09-24T19:16:09 #kisslinux <frogchair> Haven't had to compile a Kernel for most of the distros I've tried so this is quite "interesting".
2020-09-24T19:16:12 #kisslinux <frogchair> (:
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2020-09-24T19:41:23 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> yikes. well that’s a bug. LOL
2020-09-24T19:42:05 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> at least with the Element mobile client.
2020-09-24T20:17:32 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> Doesn't kiss have a way to list package version? I'm not seeing a command for it
2020-09-24T20:18:39 #kisslinux <merakor> kiss list <pkg>
2020-09-24T20:19:41 #kisslinux <merakor> The output is in "pkg ver rel" format if you want to parse it
2020-09-24T20:21:40 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> awesome, ty
2020-09-24T20:22:32 #kisslinux <merakor> You're welcome
2020-09-24T20:49:09 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin_kirc: how’s `kirc 0.1.1` treating u?
2020-09-24T20:49:33 #kisslinux <periish> hello!
2020-09-24T20:49:37 #kisslinux <periish> oh dear birch
2020-09-24T20:49:43 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> o/
2020-09-24T21:05:25 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> mcpcpc[m]: Updated and haven't noticed much of a difference. Am I correct in assuming "Fix issue with stdin being non-blocking" will keep my messages from getting split when someone else sends a message, or is that a fix for something else?
2020-09-24T21:11:31 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> himmalerin_kirc: correct!  no splitting/clobbering :)
2020-09-24T21:16:11 #kisslinux <himmalerin_kirc> mcpcpc[m]: Sounds awesome! thanks for that :D
2020-09-24T21:27:41 #kisslinux <periish> dylanaraps: Are you still interested in the idea of a `provides` functionality in KISS?
2020-09-24T21:27:48 #kisslinux <periish> s/KISS/kiss
2020-09-24T21:29:52 #kisslinux <periish> I thihnk I have a way of implementing it
2020-09-24T21:30:00 #kisslinux <periish> And I'd like to give it a try