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2020-07-08T06:47:27 #kisslinux <merakor2> x
2020-07-08T06:47:31 #kisslinux <merakor2> o/
2020-07-08T06:55:14 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> hola merakor2 que'tal?!?
2020-07-08T06:59:53 #kisslinux <merakor2> I don't really know spanish :P
2020-07-08T07:00:35 #kisslinux <merakor2> But I am fine, how about you?
2020-07-08T07:01:35 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> moi bien, moi bien :)
2020-07-08T07:01:47 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and thats the extent of my spanish :)
2020-07-08T07:02:02 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and that was after 6months of it in high school
2020-07-08T07:02:30 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> do you use the media keys patch for dwm?
2020-07-08T07:02:47 #kisslinux <merakor2> I had 4 years of French but I am really terrible at it :D
2020-07-08T07:03:03 #kisslinux <merakor2> No, I don't think so
2020-07-08T07:04:05 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> how do you control mpd then? or do you not? you just listen to whatever plays?
2020-07-08T07:05:30 #kisslinux <merakor2> I have all my keybinds (except dwm related ones) on sxhkd
2020-07-08T07:06:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh ok
2020-07-08T07:06:05 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> thanks :)
2020-07-08T07:06:11 #kisslinux <merakor2> Sure :)
2020-07-08T07:06:32 #kisslinux <merakor2> I don't like having to recompile dwm and restart it just to change a keybind
2020-07-08T07:06:53 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> meh tbh i doubt i will hcange it much once i get it working how i want
2020-07-08T07:07:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but yeah i gotta change the mod key to windows today
2020-07-08T07:07:10 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> otherwise i am going to get to used to it being alt
2020-07-08T07:07:22 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and i also have to rebind prtscr to windows key
2020-07-08T07:08:20 #kisslinux <merakor2> Yeah, I don't change them frequently either
2020-07-08T07:08:41 #kisslinux <merakor2> But for example, I am running exwm at the moment
2020-07-08T07:08:51 #kisslinux <merakor2> And I didn't even need to configure bindings
2020-07-08T07:09:11 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> let me guess you also stopped supporting the peoples front of judea you splitter?
2020-07-08T07:09:58 #kisslinux <merakor2> I mean I use emacs so that makes me the devil's advocate
2020-07-08T07:11:11 #kisslinux <merakor2> I have updated `sb` so that it works with lemonbar as well :P
2020-07-08T07:11:12 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i see you were banished to not even being able to use your name without a 2
2020-07-08T07:11:25 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> omg your a clone, a agent of the vice chancellor
2020-07-08T07:11:45 #kisslinux <merakor2> 2 is for irc, the normal one is where I connect from matrix :D
2020-07-08T07:12:18 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> so the normal one still uses dwm and everything good and wholesome that is not emacs? :P
2020-07-08T07:13:01 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> merakor2: do you know how to make playing fullscreen video in firefox stop screensaver?
2020-07-08T07:13:14 #kisslinux <merakor2> sb always had a '-n' flag where it would output to stdout instead of the dwm bar
2020-07-08T07:13:28 #kisslinux <merakor2> I just made it so the output can be piped into lemonbar
2020-07-08T07:13:50 #kisslinux <merakor2> I don't use firefox :c
2020-07-08T07:13:55 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh what do you use?
2020-07-08T07:14:00 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> lynx probably
2020-07-08T07:14:03 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> or maybe telnet
2020-07-08T07:14:11 #kisslinux <merakor2> surf :D
2020-07-08T07:14:49 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh, so its worth using then?
2020-07-08T07:14:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i saw last release and it was rather old iirc
2020-07-08T07:15:02 #kisslinux <merakor2> Very much
2020-07-08T07:15:04 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i assumed it was dead
2020-07-08T07:15:07 #kisslinux <merakor2> I use the git version
2020-07-08T07:15:12 #kisslinux <merakor2> That is still active
2020-07-08T07:15:17 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah k
2020-07-08T07:15:19 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ad blocker?
2020-07-08T07:15:53 #kisslinux <merakor2> I use /etc/hosts but there are programs for adblocking on webkit browsers
2020-07-08T07:16:05 #kisslinux <merakor2> I just don't know their names
2020-07-08T07:16:24 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah ok, and if you watch youtube vids you use mpv or something?
2020-07-08T07:16:56 #kisslinux <merakor2> webkit does support watching them with gst-plugins
2020-07-08T07:17:02 #kisslinux <merakor2> But I do prefer mpv
2020-07-08T07:17:49 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> webkit would also likely play the 10mins of ads before each 5min video
2020-07-08T07:18:16 #kisslinux <merakor2> Yeah it would
2020-07-08T07:18:22 #kisslinux <merakor2> But, like
2020-07-08T07:18:25 #kisslinux <merakor2> use invidious
2020-07-08T07:18:39 #kisslinux <merakor2> no ads no js
2020-07-08T07:20:11 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh god, and guess whats plastered all over the front gorram page
2020-07-08T07:20:17 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> linus goddamned tech tips
2020-07-08T07:25:21 #kisslinux <merakor2> yeah :D
2020-07-08T07:25:51 #kisslinux <merakor2> I personally use rss and mpv most of the time
2020-07-08T07:26:54 #kisslinux <merakor2> I have a few channels that I like watching, and I don't watch youtube all that much
2020-07-08T07:28:45 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah i very seldom branch out
2020-07-08T07:28:50 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but there are a few channels i watch
2020-07-08T07:28:59 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> what sort of stuff do you watch?
2020-07-08T07:29:26 #kisslinux <merakor2> usually gaming
2020-07-08T07:30:04 #kisslinux <merakor2> how about you?
2020-07-08T07:30:44 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah lol, the only gaming videos i watch is mario maker troll levels and the rest is typically electronic hardware channels
2020-07-08T07:30:52 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> like bigclivedotcom
2020-07-08T07:31:00 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh and conspiricy channels like thunderf00t
2020-07-08T07:32:27 #kisslinux <merakor2> > mario maker troll levels
2020-07-08T07:32:31 #kisslinux <merakor2> lol
2020-07-08T07:32:42 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> they can be rather amusing to watch
2020-07-08T07:33:11 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> also some aussies "toxic mario maker vs"
2020-07-08T07:37:37 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> what games for you?
2020-07-08T07:40:07 #kisslinux <merakor2> tf2 overwatch and recently valorant
2020-07-08T07:40:36 #kisslinux <merakor2> I don't get to play a lot, but I like watching
2020-07-08T07:41:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> gah the most recent computer game i played (closed source) was probably half life 2 just when it came out
2020-07-08T07:43:53 #kisslinux <merakor2> :D
2020-07-08T07:45:04 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah im old
2020-07-08T07:45:09 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and don't really play games
2020-07-08T07:46:12 #kisslinux <merakor2> hl2 isn't that old though
2020-07-08T07:47:27 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> its only just this side of the century :P
2020-07-08T07:49:34 #kisslinux <merakor2> I really need to follow a style guide for C
2020-07-08T07:49:55 #kisslinux <merakor2> My code style is so inconsistent
2020-07-08T07:50:29 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> please don't become one of those heathens who void main()n{
2020-07-08T07:51:01 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i have a very particular style that i use for my c code and it pretty much goes against every published style
2020-07-08T07:51:12 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> like i will always do if(blah) blah;
2020-07-08T07:52:05 #kisslinux <merakor2> I dislike that as well, but I am not knowledgable enough on C to provide an argument against it :D
2020-07-08T07:52:24 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> too much vertical space wasted
2020-07-08T07:53:05 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> the one that i do understand but don't do is in function definitions typenfunction_name(.....){}
2020-07-08T07:53:14 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and thats for /^function_name
2020-07-08T07:53:19 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but still
2020-07-08T07:55:07 #kisslinux <merakor2> Yeah, I would rather do type function(...) {n} as well
2020-07-08T07:55:22 #kisslinux <merakor2> I think it is a habit from shell.
2020-07-08T07:56:44 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> do you code in *shudder* emacs *shudder*?
2020-07-08T07:57:57 #kisslinux <merakor> It depends, but mostly yes
2020-07-08T07:58:20 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ah ok
2020-07-08T07:58:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i am really liking just using vim
2020-07-08T07:58:38 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> although its rather annoying because i keep forgetting to add the m
2020-07-08T07:58:43 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> so i am forever ending up in vi
2020-07-08T07:59:04 #kisslinux <merakor> I prefer vi :P
2020-07-08T07:59:19 #kisslinux <merakor> When I am not using emacs, that is
2020-07-08T08:01:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah but emacs has your wonderful syntax highlighting and such
2020-07-08T08:02:12 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> although i really find it annoying how the default linux colorscheme seems to be CGA
2020-07-08T08:02:23 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> if you are old enough to remember games from that error
2020-07-08T08:02:25 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> era*
2020-07-08T08:03:11 #kisslinux <merakor> I am on emacs when I am working on projects, but I use vi when I am doing simple stuff or dealing with packages
2020-07-08T08:04:05 #kisslinux <merakor> I don't really mind syntax highlighting anymore
2020-07-08T08:12:42 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> you are odd
2020-07-08T08:12:58 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> it makes it so much quicker to glance and see whats going on
2020-07-08T08:14:02 #kisslinux <merakor2> Yeah, it does
2020-07-08T08:14:25 #kisslinux <merakor2> I just don't feel lost when I don't have highlighting
2020-07-08T08:14:50 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah i do a lot without it
2020-07-08T08:14:59 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but when i am actually knuckling down i prefer it
2020-07-08T08:22:09 #kisslinux <merakor2> According to C styles I have looked up, I have a terrible style
2020-07-08T08:23:13 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> on what ways?
2020-07-08T08:25:42 #kisslinux <merakor2> sorting headers alphabetically, declaring functions etc.
2020-07-08T08:26:24 #kisslinux <merakor2> Though I understand now the reason behind the typenfunction_namen{ way of doing it
2020-07-08T08:26:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> oh why function_namen?
2020-07-08T08:27:07 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i explained hte typenfunction_name part earlier though
2020-07-08T08:27:22 #kisslinux <merakor2> So it is easier to grep
2020-07-08T08:28:00 #kisslinux <merakor2> And proper hiearchy between {}
2020-07-08T08:30:34 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> still don't believe in that one
2020-07-08T08:34:46 #kisslinux <merakor2> :(
2020-07-08T08:38:23 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> i never used to like #if 0, now i find it very useful for testing purposes
2020-07-08T11:12:28 #kisslinux <claudia02> merakor282275: xzcvczx: we have adblocking in community - wyebadblock which works good. But not yt adblocking sadly.
2020-07-08T11:13:30 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> does that work with surf?
2020-07-08T11:15:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> yeyo
2020-07-08T11:15:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> I think every webkit2stuf
2020-07-08T11:16:05 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://github.com/jun7/wyebadblock
2020-07-08T11:16:08 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> it would be so much cooler if it were yoyo
2020-07-08T11:17:09 #kisslinux <claudia02> yeyoadblock?
2020-07-08T11:17:21 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> no just you saying yoyo :P
2020-07-08T11:19:32 #kisslinux <claudia02> I can recommend to take a look again at lariza. The latest release now has integrated tabs.
2020-07-08T11:19:36 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://www.uninformativ.de/git/lariza/file/README.html
2020-07-08T11:34:13 #kisslinux * xzcvczx damns gitlab and their inability to produce a valid patch file
2020-07-08T12:18:43 #kisslinux <merakor2> lariza is nice for people who want to use a lightweight browser without dealing with configuring config.h files, applying patches, using external tools etc.
2020-07-08T12:20:32 #kisslinux <merakor2> Though I prefer surf because I prefer applying patches and editing config.h files. Surf is much easier to customize to one's liking.
2020-07-08T12:48:10 #kisslinux <illiliti> guys, can you please help me? run `cat /sys/class/input/*/name` and send me output
2020-07-08T12:49:23 #kisslinux <merakor2> https://termbin.com/0bf4
2020-07-08T12:50:51 #kisslinux <illiliti> thank you very much
2020-07-08T12:51:10 #kisslinux <merakor2> You're welcome :)
2020-07-08T13:55:26 #kisslinux <dilynm> xzcvczx: yeah I certainly hope I don't have to buy a license (:
2020-07-08T13:55:35 #kisslinux <dilynm> I would rather just drop qt lmao
2020-07-08T13:55:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> Dylan: LC_ALL is not the issue, unfortunately
2020-07-08T14:13:00 #kisslinux <dilynm> I guess technically I should say that setting LC_ALL=C for my env did not resolve it
2020-07-08T14:45:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> s m f h
2020-07-08T14:46:01 #kisslinux <dilynm> dylan: it's LC_ALL=C
2020-07-08T14:46:22 #kisslinux <dilynm> I commented it out of /usr/bin/kiss and qt5 builds fine without ICU
2020-07-08T14:53:16 #kisslinux <dilynm> And that's why kiss v1.9.0 works and not later versions. LC_ALL=C was added 4 days after that release, two days before 1.10.0
2020-07-08T15:47:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dilynm: Pushed a new package manager release with the fix. Feel free to revert the ICU changes now. :)
2020-07-08T15:49:55 #kisslinux <konimex> and now the question should be why LC_ALL=C affects building qt5
2020-07-08T16:03:28 #kisslinux <dilynm> Something to do with iconv
2020-07-08T16:06:26 #kisslinux <dilynm> I wish I knew... Anything... About libc
2020-07-08T16:10:20 #kisslinux <dilynm> 117 kde packages will build against ICU if it exists. Now I get to rebuild half of my system lmao
2020-07-08T19:11:12 #kisslinux <claudia02> Oh I have put everything together for qutebrowser
2020-07-08T19:11:24 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://imgur.com/hV3tbGl
2020-07-08T19:12:18 #kisslinux <claudia02> Since its afaik just python, it can just be extracted and executed..
2020-07-08T20:17:18 #kisslinux <claudia02> Qutebrowser + friends: https://github.com/sdsddsd1/kiss-s3d4
2020-07-08T20:22:39 #kisslinux <dilynm> Nice
2020-07-08T20:22:58 #kisslinux <dilynm> I'll let you steal my stuff if you get krits to build ;P
2020-07-08T20:23:28 #kisslinux <claudia02> :P
2020-07-08T20:24:45 #kisslinux <claudia02> I more use the efforts of others to create stuff ^^
2020-07-08T20:27:44 #kisslinux <claudia02> You let your poor computer suffer hard, dont you
2020-07-08T20:30:36 #kisslinux <dilynm> I'm amazed it's still goin after six years of constant abuse tbh
2020-07-08T21:06:08 #kisslinux <JanBessai> hey guys.. got a working version of docker packaged on my server
2020-07-08T21:06:28 #kisslinux <JanBessai> it is using the static binaries provided from the docker project though
2020-07-08T21:07:25 #kisslinux <JanBessai> I'd be ready to share it after a few rounds of polish hacking, I guess
2020-07-08T21:08:48 #kisslinux <JanBessai> what I was wondering about: how do I correctly clean up after the package is removed? my install script e.g. adds a docker group and a service. do I "sv down dockerd", "rm /var/service/dockerd" and "delgroup docker" in pre-remove or is that too much?
2020-07-08T21:12:51 #kisslinux <JanBessai> and yes.. I know that docker is bloaty and containerization is evil. yet there sometimes is software that has sucky installations and I want to play with it without messing up the rest of the system (example: jitsi).
2020-07-08T21:17:00 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilynm: I saw krita needs boost. I dont know whats your error there, but I have a package in kiss-games which does not build with the latest version of boost.
2020-07-08T21:17:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> Krita fails but it doesn't seem related to boost
2020-07-08T21:17:55 #kisslinux <dilynm> It complains about colorIO
2020-07-08T21:20:56 #kisslinux <claudia02> hm
2020-07-08T21:21:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> Which as far as I can tell should only be a recommended dependency, so I think it's a red herring
2020-07-08T21:21:40 #kisslinux <dilynm> Maybe it's boost. But I doubt it
2020-07-08T21:24:03 #kisslinux <claudia02> JanBessai: I think this is ok to do after removing the package, but afaik no package in KISS does these things. Its more you should do it yourself.
2020-07-08T21:27:13 #kisslinux <JanBessai> claudia02: thanks. that is why I was asking. didn't find an example where other packages did that. feels correct to clean up though -- leaving behind stuff after installations reminds me too much of windows ;)
2020-07-08T21:31:44 #kisslinux <JanBessai> perhaps these things should go into a note displayed on removal then... there are some more files created by the deamon which I don't automatically remove because users might change and want to keep them
2020-07-08T21:32:19 #kisslinux <JanBessai> and I'm collecting them in a note, so that cleanup can be done manually
2020-07-08T21:50:24 #kisslinux <ectlunya> anyone else getting these git errors from kiss u: http://ix.io/2rdY
2020-07-08T21:51:06 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> just use git config --global
2020-07-08T21:51:22 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and they aren't exactly errors
2020-07-08T22:07:28 #kisslinux <ectlunya> all that does is suppress them. perhaps the program behavior should be changed if it gives a warning
2020-07-08T22:09:32 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> no, i don't see it as being a package manager issue
2020-07-08T22:09:44 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> except for possible /repo
2020-07-08T22:09:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> possibly
2020-07-08T22:10:13 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but any added by the person should be either set using git config --global or git config per repo
2020-07-08T22:14:14 #kisslinux <ectlunya> It is a package manager issue. There was a recent commit which switched from fetchs to pulls
2020-07-08T23:03:22 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I'm sort of back :p Any idea what package provides "fontutil"? It seems like it should be libXfont2 but that's not working
2020-07-08T23:05:14 #kisslinux <himmalerin> xorg-server with xwayland won't build w/o it, xorg-server sans xwayland builds fine though
2020-07-08T23:10:02 #kisslinux <admicos> himmalerin: I recall being able to build Xwayland fine without a fontutil, unless it got installed without me remembering it
2020-07-08T23:13:58 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> himmalerin: xfonts-utils on dbeian
2020-07-08T23:15:48 #kisslinux <claudia02> xorg-font-util on arch (:
2020-07-08T23:15:49 #kisslinux <claudia02> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xorg-font-util/
2020-07-08T23:16:20 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> haha lets drive himmalerin nuts with all the information that doesn't help him :P
2020-07-08T23:17:53 #kisslinux <himmalerin> debian's website is such a pain to find sources from
2020-07-08T23:17:55 #kisslinux <claudia02> They list it as dep: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/xorg-server-xwayland/
2020-07-08T23:19:22 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Ohhh, wow, ok Me. I had build files for this package in my repo but never pushed them out bc I couldn't remember why I had it in there
2020-07-08T23:19:28 #kisslinux <himmalerin> then I deleted it
2020-07-08T23:19:34 #kisslinux <himmalerin> stupid himmalerin :p
2020-07-08T23:20:43 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> himmalerin: just blame claudia02
2020-07-08T23:21:29 #kisslinux <claudia02> O:
2020-07-08T23:23:02 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> *music* blame claudia, blame claudia, everythings gone wrong since claudia came along, blame claudia, blame claudia, claudias not a real person anyway *music*
2020-07-08T23:23:21 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> please don't take offense until you pick up the reference :P
2020-07-08T23:24:50 #kisslinux <claudia02> I put sound of 90s pop punk to it
2020-07-08T23:25:04 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> o_O
2020-07-08T23:25:40 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> robin williams even sung it
2020-07-08T23:25:54 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> sung/sang
2020-07-08T23:27:38 #kisslinux <claudia02> Sing to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6wnda2TIc0
2020-07-08T23:27:41 #kisslinux <claudia02> :p
2020-07-08T23:29:02 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> you tell yaself that
2020-07-08T23:39:44 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Xorg builds properly now, thanks xzcvczx and claudia02!
2020-07-08T23:40:20 #kisslinux <himmalerin> Now to figure out how to get btrfs snapshots snapshotting...
2020-07-08T23:40:43 #kisslinux * xzcvczx gives himmalerin a camera