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2020-07-06T01:35:51 #kisslinux <gtk> "irc isn't as "fast paced" as something like discord"
2020-07-06T01:35:55 #kisslinux <gtk> yeah cuz it's dead lol
2020-07-06T01:36:08 #kisslinux <gtk> oh shit
2020-07-06T01:36:12 #kisslinux <gtk> that was 2 days ago
2020-07-06T02:01:21 #kisslinux <himmalerin> rip
2020-07-06T02:27:47 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> nice reaction time there gtk
2020-07-06T02:27:54 #kisslinux * xzcvczx hates gtk
2020-07-06T02:28:12 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> (the toolkit not the person masquerading as gtk)
2020-07-06T02:30:05 #kisslinux <himmalerin> all the widely used guis seem to have some issue or another
2020-07-06T02:30:48 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> yeah but gtk is worse..... oh you need this
2020-07-06T02:30:55 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> but for this you need that and the other
2020-07-06T02:31:01 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> and exponential growth ftw
2020-07-06T02:31:19 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> to when you hit the end of the tree and it says "you need rust" well frack you
2020-07-06T02:31:53 #kisslinux <himmalerin> but, but RiiR!
2020-07-06T02:32:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> RiiR it up ya butt :P
2020-07-06T03:17:02 #kisslinux <micr0> does ssdsdsdsd hang out here?
2020-07-06T03:17:23 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I believe that's claudia02?
2020-07-06T03:19:02 #kisslinux <micr0> ahh cool
2020-07-06T03:24:21 #kisslinux * xzcvczx thnks people need to learn to be consistent..... that includes you micr0 :P
2020-07-06T04:03:04 #kisslinux <micr0> himmalerin I'm testing a new chroot with nothing but the bare minimum to have noxland firefox
2020-07-06T04:03:25 #kisslinux <himmalerin> How's that coming along?
2020-07-06T04:03:35 #kisslinux <micr0> fresh install of kiss, minimal set of repos to satisfy the dependencies
2020-07-06T04:04:18 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I'd really like to do a minimal chroot for package building like void does for building packages but I still need to figure that out
2020-07-06T04:04:26 #kisslinux <himmalerin> probably a good idea
2020-07-06T04:04:29 #kisslinux <himmalerin> start simple
2020-07-06T04:07:51 #kisslinux <micr0> KISS_PATH is himmalerin/modified mywayland/noxland mywayland/wayland community/community core extra xorg
2020-07-06T04:08:36 #kisslinux <micr0> C{,XX}FLAGS are -02 -march=native -pipe, MAKEFLAGS="-j$(nproc)"
2020-07-06T04:08:42 #kisslinux <micr0> should be nothing out of the ordinary
2020-07-06T04:15:11 #kisslinux <himmalerin> yeah, ok! Hopefully that works out for you
2020-07-06T04:15:27 #kisslinux <himmalerin> what's the status so far?
2020-07-06T04:20:16 #kisslinux <micr0> c compiler cannot create executables
2020-07-06T04:20:18 #kisslinux <micr0> on alsa lol
2020-07-06T04:21:09 #kisslinux <himmalerin> that's not the hopeful status I was looking for lmao
2020-07-06T04:21:42 #kisslinux <himmalerin> brb
2020-07-06T04:28:39 #kisslinux <micr0> well ill continue tomorrow ciao
2020-07-06T09:30:03 #kisslinux <konimex> > micr0: C{,XX}FLAGS are -02 -march=native -pipe, MAKEFLAGS="-j$(nproc)"
2020-07-06T09:30:11 #kisslinux <konimex> should've been -O2
2020-07-06T09:31:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> ha woops i missed that
2020-07-06T10:15:53 #kisslinux <claudia02> To the people running webkit2gtk: Are you able to open local html files? Any browser I try does download the file.
2020-07-06T10:28:19 #kisslinux <merakor2> claudia02: webkit works fine for me, I can open local html files.
2020-07-06T10:30:32 #kisslinux <merakor2> What's your version? Do you use your own build or the community build?
2020-07-06T10:30:32 #kisslinux <merakor2>
2020-07-06T10:34:10 #kisslinux <claudia02> merakor2: I have build it myself from community.
2020-07-06T10:34:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> This also has worked for me on a prior install.
2020-07-06T10:35:01 #kisslinux <claudia02> Do you have set up any xdg-open, mime stuff?
2020-07-06T10:36:20 #kisslinux <merakor`> No, I don't have mailcap/mime/xdg-open
2020-07-06T10:37:54 #kisslinux <merakor`> Oh, I have shared-mime-info, but that's a dependency for gtk
2020-07-06T10:38:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> Me neither
2020-07-06T10:40:19 #kisslinux <merakor`> seems like dylan has dropped shared-mime-info
2020-07-06T10:40:28 #kisslinux <claudia02> Thats just a text file, right?
2020-07-06T10:40:32 #kisslinux <merakor`> That could be the issue for webkit
2020-07-06T10:40:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> is this on carbs repo?
2020-07-06T10:40:56 #kisslinux <merakor`> Yeah
2020-07-06T10:41:09 #kisslinux <merakor`> I can send you the file directly if you want to
2020-07-06T10:41:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> yeah
2020-07-06T10:42:13 #kisslinux <merakor`> https://ckyln.com(f)
2020-07-06T10:42:16 #kisslinux <merakor`> whoops
2020-07-06T10:42:27 #kisslinux <merakor`> https://ckyln.com/files/freedesktop.org.xml
2020-07-06T10:42:47 #kisslinux <merakor`> It goes to /usr/share/mime/packages/ folder
2020-07-06T10:45:00 #kisslinux <claudia02> thank you so much, this drove me crazy :D
2020-07-06T10:45:12 #kisslinux <merakor`> Did it work :D
2020-07-06T10:45:20 #kisslinux <claudia02> I knew it must be something in this direction (:
2020-07-06T10:45:22 #kisslinux <claudia02> yy
2020-07-06T10:45:25 #kisslinux <claudia02> like a charm ^^
2020-07-06T10:45:32 #kisslinux <merakor`> That's great
2020-07-06T10:45:39 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have installed the mime pkg
2020-07-06T10:46:59 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have removed the pkg but it still works
2020-07-06T10:47:37 #kisslinux <merakor> That's weird
2020-07-06T10:47:51 #kisslinux <merakor> Do you still have the mime file?
2020-07-06T10:49:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> Yes, altough the package is removed, /usr/share/mime/ is still there
2020-07-06T10:49:46 #kisslinux <claudia02> + content
2020-07-06T10:50:50 #kisslinux <merakor`> Oh okay
2020-07-06T10:51:29 #kisslinux <merakor`> Emacs is consuming my soul
2020-07-06T10:51:41 #kisslinux <merakor`> I have started using emacs window manager unironically
2020-07-06T10:54:14 #kisslinux <claudia02> nice
2020-07-06T10:55:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> I dont use the text editor this intense, but I in general I like this idea.
2020-07-06T10:56:54 #kisslinux <merakor`> I am basically in the text editor the whole day, so Emacs feels really comfortable
2020-07-06T10:58:42 #kisslinux <claudia02> merakor`: I have removed /usr/share/mime/ and just put your xml in application. Thats not sufficent
2020-07-06T10:59:01 #kisslinux <claudia02> So, shared-mime-info is a dep for webkit2?
2020-07-06T10:59:51 #kisslinux <claudia02> Once it has generated/updated its database it can be removed again.
2020-07-06T11:00:12 #kisslinux <merakor2> Oh yeah, I have completely forgotten about the post-install
2020-07-06T11:00:30 #kisslinux <merakor2> I was only checking the manifest
2020-07-06T11:02:23 #kisslinux <merakor2> The database itself should be sufficient, the package isn't necessary
2020-07-06T12:31:50 #kisslinux <admicos> does anyone here have experience with getting older minecraft (1.12.x specifically) (or any other lwjgl 2 game) working under kiss? java works OK from a 3rd party repo, but the game itself segfaults trying to use openal
2020-07-06T12:32:05 #kisslinux <admicos> newer versions don't seem to have this problem
2020-07-06T12:36:05 #kisslinux <merakor2> I think you should be able to do it on flatpak
2020-07-06T12:36:11 #kisslinux <merakor2> But I am not entirely sure
2020-07-06T12:38:08 #kisslinux <admicos> looking thru alpine's irc logs, someone got it working by re-compiling lwjgl's natives for musl
2020-07-06T12:50:37 #kisslinux <nraiha_> Hi, I have problems with network. I have macbook (early 2015) and ip a shows only lo and sit0.
2020-07-06T12:53:28 #kisslinux <nraiha_> /lib/modules/*kernel*/modules.builtin tells me that b43 and bcmfmac are compiled into kernel. Even though I disabled b43 from 'make menuconfig' it still shows up there. (My network card is is bcm43602)
2020-07-06T12:54:23 #kisslinux <nraiha_> brcmfmac*
2020-07-06T12:55:03 #kisslinux <nraiha_> I don't really know how to troubleshoot this issue. Does anyone have experience with this?
2020-07-06T13:06:57 #kisslinux <ax> dylanaraps: sorry bro, health problems, I see you get the updates shortly.
2020-07-06T13:09:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> nraiha_: 'ip link' shows you available network devices and 'ip link set $device up' brings them up.
2020-07-06T13:10:16 #kisslinux <claudia02> When 'ip link' does not list any, your driver is probably not loaded correctly.
2020-07-06T13:13:25 #kisslinux <nraiha_> Yeah I figured something like that. /sys/class/net contains only lo and sit0
2020-07-06T13:13:43 #kisslinux <nraiha_> I assume the wireless device would be wlp3s0
2020-07-06T14:26:56 #kisslinux <dilynm> nraiha_: you need broadcom-wl for that card don't you?
2020-07-06T14:29:36 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-me/tree/master/KISS-me/broadcom-wl
2020-07-06T14:33:30 #kisslinux <dilynm> Jk. There are too many letters for broadcom cards
2020-07-06T14:38:13 #kisslinux <dilynm> What do you have selected in device drivers>network device support>wireless lan>broadcom devices ?
2020-07-06T19:09:55 #kisslinux <micr0> so fresh chroot of kiss, kiss b firefox fails because gtk+2 fails with 'libX11 not found' in configure.
2020-07-06T19:10:02 #kisslinux <micr0> even after install libX11 manually...
2020-07-06T19:10:52 #kisslinux <himmalerin> I feel like gtk+2 should pull in all it's deps automatically
2020-07-06T19:11:04 #kisslinux <himmalerin> do you have xorg-server built?
2020-07-06T19:11:35 #kisslinux <micr0> no xorg-server
2020-07-06T19:11:39 #kisslinux <micr0> im not using xorg
2020-07-06T19:12:44 #kisslinux <himmalerin> just wondering if gtk+2 relies on it for some reason
2020-07-06T19:13:19 #kisslinux <micr0> heh and claudia02 just left
2020-07-06T19:14:31 #kisslinux <micr0> well maybe i will just try fresh kiss b sway
2020-07-06T19:46:14 #kisslinux <micr0> yeah so I am able to reproduce on a fresh kiss chroot, gtk+3 from himmalerin/modified fails with 'epoxy/glx.h' no such file or directory
2020-07-06T19:48:19 #kisslinux <himmalerin> do you have libepoxy installed?
2020-07-06T19:51:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> micr0: I think when you want to build gtk+3 / gtk+2 with x11 backend you dont have to use libepoxy from noxland.
2020-07-06T19:51:15 #kisslinux <claudia02> It has x11 disabled.
2020-07-06T19:52:31 #kisslinux <claudia02> You also have to make sure that gtk+3 builds "gdkx.h" (X11 backend)
2020-07-06T20:12:06 #kisslinux <micr0> claudia02 so firefox requires gtk+2 at build time, which requires x11 backend
2020-07-06T20:12:34 #kisslinux <micr0> but that seems to conflict with noxland/gtk+3
2020-07-06T20:15:20 #kisslinux <micr0> i see okay so i need to use noxland/gtk+3, but my path had himmalerin/modified at a higher precedence, because i wanted firefox to resolve there
2020-07-06T20:18:48 #kisslinux <claudia02> micr0: You cant just use the gtk+3 from noxland. You have to add the switch to enable also the x11 backend
2020-07-06T20:19:16 #kisslinux <claudia02> therefore the build will fail. So you have to watch out and install package by backage until it builds
2020-07-06T20:20:02 #kisslinux <claudia02> There packages there are primarily to build without any x11. I should make this more clear
2020-07-06T20:20:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> First you should verify that mesa/libglvnd has build glx.h,
2020-07-06T20:22:24 #kisslinux <claudia02> This firefox build needs a bit watch out and the rewards are not very hight.
2020-07-06T20:23:35 #kisslinux <claudia02> If you want firefox, you have to take all the hustle to finaly ditch libXinerama libXxf86vm libxshmfence
2020-07-06T21:42:37 #kisslinux <micr0> thanks for being patient and explaining it in detail