💾 Archived View for gemini.ctrl-c.club › ~phoebos › logs › freenode-kisslinux-2020-02-14.txt captured on 2024-05-12 at 16:09:10.

View Raw

More Information

⬅️ Previous capture (2021-12-17)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-

2020-02-14T00:15:21 #kisslinux <sirtomato> hi
2020-02-14T01:48:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: can you link the error output you get trying the linker script change?
2020-02-14T01:54:59 #kisslinux <konimex> https://termbin.com/px8y
2020-02-14T02:07:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> is your linker script at libgcc_s.so or libgcc_s.so.1?
2020-02-14T02:08:20 #kisslinux <konimex> I have both
2020-02-14T02:08:40 #kisslinux <E5ten> libgcc_s.so.1 should be the actual lib otherwise how will the dynamically linked stage0 work?
2020-02-14T02:09:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> this is just to make it so it's only a makedep not a runtime dep
2020-02-14T02:09:49 #kisslinux <konimex> oh by the way, looks like actually symlinking libunwind to libgcc does somewhat work but it complains about -lgcc_s not existing (https://termbin.com/fc2z), and by the way since we're into ugly hacks territory I think at this point I should nag the rust team about it through github issues
2020-02-14T02:12:30 #kisslinux <E5ten> I just have libgcc_s.so.1 as the actual libgcc_s, libgcc_s.so is the linker script that provides -lunwind, and libunwind exists, and that works for me
2020-02-14T02:14:15 #kisslinux <konimex> I see, not really ideal huh
2020-02-14T02:14:22 #kisslinux <konimex> building all-target-libgcc (forgot the make command in gcc) still requires the full gcc suite, isn't it
2020-02-14T02:15:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> idk I don't build libgcc_s, but yeah it sucks they really should statically link stage0, so yeah nag on github :p
2020-02-14T02:26:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> That seems like a natural step given that they ostensibly support libunwind but somehow... don't in practice
2020-02-14T02:27:30 #kisslinux <konimex> even if libgcc does exist, building with clang returns fail because they're trying to use -std=c++11 https://termbin.com/hq35
2020-02-14T02:27:52 #kisslinux <konimex> so there's that
2020-02-14T02:44:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> hey konimex
2020-02-14T02:44:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> having trouble build llvm-pass2
2020-02-14T02:45:07 #kisslinux <konimex> sure, what is it
2020-02-14T02:45:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> can't get past configure, says the compiler does not support -fuse-ld=lld
2020-02-14T02:45:36 #kisslinux <konimex> aw shucks
2020-02-14T02:45:55 #kisslinux <dilyn> lol
2020-02-14T02:45:59 #kisslinux <konimex> you still need ld.bfd, two secs let me have a look at the config
2020-02-14T02:46:54 #kisslinux <konimex> say, what if you build @lld, does it fail?
2020-02-14T02:47:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> it fails because of a dependency check but i assume i could kiss_force it right
2020-02-14T02:47:28 #kisslinux <konimex> yes
2020-02-14T02:48:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> didn't skip the check
2020-02-14T02:48:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> weird
2020-02-14T02:49:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> i'll just remove them lol
2020-02-14T02:49:41 #kisslinux <konimex> alright, if it fails tell me
2020-02-14T02:55:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> made it past configure
2020-02-14T03:12:47 #kisslinux <konimex> in case it fails, try to delete remove this line from llvm-pass2: -DLLVM_ENABLE_LLD=ON
2020-02-14T03:13:00 #kisslinux <konimex> s/delete//
2020-02-14T03:14:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> the fix is so easy!
2020-02-14T04:19:05 #kisslinux <E5ten> konimex: your CXX or whatever thing is determining what c++ compiler it uses should be set to clang++ not clang lol
2020-02-14T04:19:28 #kisslinux <konimex> E5ten: I've set my cxx to clang++ though
2020-02-14T04:20:01 #kisslinux <konimex> whatever rust does it's invoking it as cc, not cxx
2020-02-14T04:22:04 #kisslinux <konimex> here's my config.toml as reference https://termbin.ckm/poaw
2020-02-14T04:22:15 #kisslinux <konimex> https://termbin.com/poaw
2020-02-14T04:30:24 #kisslinux <konimex> and GCC does accept -std=c++11 commands, it just warns that it's invalid (and not outright errors), but still ridiculous
2020-02-14T05:22:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> unifont is so glorious
2020-02-14T05:22:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> Anyone else using it everywhere?
2020-02-14T05:27:59 #kisslinux <konimex> only as fallback if my font doesn't support the glyph
2020-02-14T05:28:06 #kisslinux <konimex> otherwise, no
2020-02-14T06:25:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> Ah
2020-02-14T06:26:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> I turned it up to size 24 in all the blocky goodness on my 1600x900 and 1366x768 screens.
2020-02-14T06:26:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> size 12 is razor sharp, however, I like the old look
2020-02-14T06:27:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> guile PR incoming
2020-02-14T08:30:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: I have tested and approve of the tcl changes. Do you prefer I create an identical PR, or will a comment saying such be good enough?
2020-02-14T08:33:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Send your own PR
2020-02-14T08:33:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We have maintainers for a reason
2020-02-14T08:33:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-14T08:33:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> you got it!!
2020-02-14T08:33:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> He should have emailed you prior instead of sending his own PR.
2020-02-14T08:34:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> From now on I'll just close those PRs without comment
2020-02-14T08:40:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> Yeah, we could document this clearly somewhere, thanks, and I could do better about checking who is managing which pkgs too tbh
2020-02-14T08:40:47 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylanaraps: finally you're deciding as a real Owner :p
2020-02-14T08:41:37 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> Hello, so I have downloaded firmware blobs for my KISS installation. Do I copy only those drivers to "/usb/lib/firmware" that I know that my device will be using?
2020-02-14T08:42:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: Adding to guidestones
2020-02-14T08:42:33 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps:  when you do close things, perhaps copy and paste, "thank you for your submission, please see contact the maintainer, if you are unsure how to do this, see the guidestones..."
2020-02-14T08:42:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> We don't want to miss out on a good PR
2020-02-14T08:42:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> :P
2020-02-14T08:43:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: I'll just add a checkbox to the PR template. "Are you the maintainer of the package?"
2020-02-14T08:43:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And a link to the guidestones
2020-02-14T08:44:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The less time I spend dealing with crap, the more time I have to actually work ;)
2020-02-14T08:45:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> smokepengu: You can put as much or as little firmware there as you like
2020-02-14T08:45:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> How you compile the firmware matters. Will they be baked into the kernel or kept as modules?
2020-02-14T08:45:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This depends on how you compile the drivers which use said firmware
2020-02-14T08:46:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If your driver is a module, your firmware must be a module.
2020-02-14T08:46:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If your driver isn't a module, your firmware must be compiled into the kernel.
2020-02-14T08:46:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Any modules must be manually set to load at boot (see the wiki)
2020-02-14T08:49:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dzove885: Yes. I need to stop spending 3 days debugging someone's kernel.
2020-02-14T08:49:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I need to stop answering the easy questions too ;)
2020-02-14T08:49:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm not Google
2020-02-14T08:50:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> You need a beer
2020-02-14T08:50:18 #kisslinux <adamantium> s/need/could use/g
2020-02-14T08:50:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;-)
2020-02-14T08:50:29 #kisslinux <konimex> I don't know how github parses Author: and Committer: from git email format but shouldn't a sign-off suffice?
2020-02-14T08:51:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> How do you do that
2020-02-14T08:51:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> I never have done that before
2020-02-14T08:51:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: A PR by a non-maintainer should never reach the repository regardless.
2020-02-14T08:51:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Contact the maintainer, request the changes you'd like and they'll do it.
2020-02-14T08:51:40 #kisslinux <konimex> we should just move off github and use a mailing list
2020-02-14T08:51:48 #kisslinux <adamantium> bonkers
2020-02-14T08:51:54 #kisslinux <konimex> the kernel way
2020-02-14T08:51:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> i feel like keeping my hair thanks
2020-02-14T08:52:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Who will pay for the mailing list? ;)
2020-02-14T09:05:40 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> So given that I select firmware loading in kernel, and i provide the directory for the firmware blobs, and I want the kernel to load modules at boot.. I know that it's possible to select drivers in kernel as a modules but, are they like built-in, or before the compilation kernel searches for them in /usr/lib/firmware and then you just set if you
2020-02-14T09:05:41 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> want them as a modules or built-in?
2020-02-14T09:06:21 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> "built-in" I mean provided with kernel itself
2020-02-14T09:07:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> In 'menuconfig' '[m]' is "compiled as module" and '[*]' is "compiled into the kernel".
2020-02-14T09:07:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> If you want the kernel to load modules at boot [e.g. automatically] without you having to place "modeprobe foo" commands in your init scripts, then you will have to build your modules into the kernel, by pressing 'y' (on make menuconfig) or setting to =y in .config manually (not recommended unless know what you're doing)
2020-02-14T09:08:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> when you press 'y' in make menuconfig, it will show a [*]
2020-02-14T09:08:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> as opposed to pressing 'm' it shows [m]
2020-02-14T09:10:51 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> I get you, and this makes it so much more clear, but does the menuconfig know about the firmware blobs existing in /usr/lib/fimware beforehand?
2020-02-14T09:11:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> you should use slash '/' (ala vim) and search for "firmware"
2020-02-14T09:11:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> i believe it is down just a little bit, #5 i think
2020-02-14T09:11:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> you will see extra firmware directory
2020-02-14T09:11:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> smokepengu: If left as modules, yes.
2020-02-14T09:11:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Else you need to tell the kernel
2020-02-14T09:14:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> smokepenguin: you need to tell it which firmwares to bake-in if you are planning to bake in firmware from /usr/lib/fimware, which is a 2 step process:
2020-02-14T09:14:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> Let me give a simple example for my laptop wifi:
2020-02-14T09:14:58 #kisslinux <adamantium> 1. First I find the "iwlwifi" option using '/' [search: "iwlwifi"] ... (find the location, and choose [*] to build in iwlwifi)
2020-02-14T09:15:55 #kisslinux <adamantium> 2. It still will need the actual firmware because this is a blob that is not included with the default kernel! Therefore I will download the firmware package and place the needed firmware module in /lib/firmware, in my case: /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode
2020-02-14T09:16:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> 3. I need to ensure that iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode is listed to be baked in my .config file, in my case, .config contains the line, CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode"
2020-02-14T09:17:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> ######### NOTE: You can manually edit the line in .config separated by commas, or you can interactively do this via the EXTRA_FIRMWARE (search for it using '/' in 'make menuconfig')
2020-02-14T09:18:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE is space separated
2020-02-14T09:18:51 #kisslinux <adamantium> ^^
2020-02-14T09:18:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> Thx
2020-02-14T09:19:33 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> alright I see, that is what I was asking for, thanks!
2020-02-14T09:36:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: are you saying i should remove     --with-system-sqlite line?
2020-02-14T09:36:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: 2 secs
2020-02-14T09:36:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> so I should remove rm -rf pkgs/sqlite3* then as well, correct?
2020-02-14T09:36:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-14T09:36:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Remove only the `rm -rf pkgs/blabla`
2020-02-14T09:37:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> '--with-system-sqlite' exists in the tarball.
2020-02-14T09:37:16 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-14T09:38:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-14T09:39:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also
2020-02-14T09:39:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> unix/configure will spit out the Makefiles in $PWD
2020-02-14T09:39:23 #kisslinux <adamantium> i noticed that
2020-02-14T09:39:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> seemed like magic
2020-02-14T09:39:35 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Passing --with-system-sqlite will send the flag down to the child configure
2020-02-14T09:39:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> i kind of preferred the cd because of that
2020-02-14T09:39:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's intended
2020-02-14T09:39:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The docs even say unix/configure
2020-02-14T09:40:01 #kisslinux <adamantium> k
2020-02-14T09:40:05 #kisslinux <adamantium> reverting it
2020-02-14T09:41:22 #kisslinux <adamantium> So last thing to address is -j1
2020-02-14T09:41:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> [or not]
2020-02-14T09:41:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does it work without -j1?
2020-02-14T09:42:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I thought you added -j1 as it didn't work without it
2020-02-14T09:42:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> See my comment
2020-02-14T09:42:35 #kisslinux <adamantium> And yes, it works without it
2020-02-14T09:43:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Remove it then
2020-02-14T09:43:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> it is removed
2020-02-14T10:02:49 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Moved the website to: https://k1ss.org/
2020-02-14T10:02:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> - No longer goat-pee in Swedish
2020-02-14T10:03:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> - Other domain expires mid year anyway
2020-02-14T10:03:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> - It's shorter
2020-02-14T10:04:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> it is also leet
2020-02-14T10:04:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It is
2020-02-14T10:04:15 #kisslinux <smokepenguin> lol
2020-02-14T10:04:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's cheaper than renewing the original domain too
2020-02-14T10:05:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-14T10:05:12 #kisslinux <adamantium> they will raise .org prices
2020-02-14T10:05:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> over the next decade
2020-02-14T10:05:19 #kisslinux <adamantium> hope you can afford it
2020-02-14T10:05:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> ;P
2020-02-14T10:05:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Meh
2020-02-14T10:05:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have my doubts
2020-02-14T10:05:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We'll see
2020-02-14T10:06:13 #kisslinux <adamantium> easiest way for me to take a screenshot?
2020-02-14T10:07:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> imlib2_grab
2020-02-14T10:07:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> or ffmpeg
2020-02-14T10:07:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> or imagemagick
2020-02-14T10:09:06 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Compiling syntax_ext v0.0.0 (/home/goldie/.cache/kiss/build-31977/rust/src/libsyntax_ext)
2020-02-14T10:09:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I hate Rust
2020-02-14T10:09:17 #kisslinux <adamantium> and you complain about guile
2020-02-14T10:09:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-14T10:09:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-14T10:09:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Requiring libunistring and gc >:(
2020-02-14T10:09:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Just use Chicken
2020-02-14T10:09:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :^)
2020-02-14T10:09:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Much better name
2020-02-14T10:09:53 #kisslinux <adamantium> ya but the whole guile stack compile in still 10 minutes
2020-02-14T10:09:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> on my 10 year old laptop
2020-02-14T10:10:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Dunno if I'd use an init written in scheme as my PID 1
2020-02-14T10:10:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> People want me to convert systemE to shepherd
2020-02-14T10:10:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> shepherd is built in guile so guile it is
2020-02-14T10:10:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or is the PID 1 C and the services scheme?
2020-02-14T10:10:39 #kisslinux <adamantium> if I ever get around to doing it.........
2020-02-14T10:11:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Meh
2020-02-14T10:11:47 #kisslinux <adamantium> If i had created systemE using guile it would not have been more than 2 stars
2020-02-14T10:12:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> so not sure why i am messing with shepherd actually
2020-02-14T10:12:02 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Bear in mind that you've amassed a lot of packages in community thus far
2020-02-14T10:12:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't take on too much
2020-02-14T10:12:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> Sure
2020-02-14T10:13:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You'll probably figure out your own limit ;)
2020-02-14T10:13:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> However, the packages I have amassed, are in 99.9% of linux distros and a lot of users need the tools.
2020-02-14T10:13:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't care about what other distributions do
2020-02-14T10:13:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> So, with that in mind, it's my contribution and gift of love to kiss. Because I like kiss.
2020-02-14T10:14:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I wouldn't package anything you aren't actually needing your self
2020-02-14T10:14:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> I know what you're saying
2020-02-14T10:14:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> When a maintainer dumps a package it ends up on my plate
2020-02-14T10:14:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> I suggest stop doing that to yourself
2020-02-14T10:15:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I have 60~ packages in community, 40-50 I don't use myself.
2020-02-14T10:15:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-14T10:15:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll be dumping packages
2020-02-14T10:15:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> If a maintainer dumps a package, after being outdated, and if another community member does not open a PR with [ADOPT] tag, ...
2020-02-14T10:15:26 #kisslinux <adamantium> then you just drop it
2020-02-14T10:15:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Problem
2020-02-14T10:15:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No one has said "I'm dropping this package"
2020-02-14T10:15:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-14T10:15:49 #kisslinux <adamantium> Answer
2020-02-14T10:15:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> repology lists outdated packages
2020-02-14T10:16:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> after X amount of days...
2020-02-14T10:16:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> pkg maintainer disappear, not reply, the issue remains open as a bug, [OUTDATED]
2020-02-14T10:16:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> if another community member doesn't step up and [ADOPT] it, then you drop it
2020-02-14T10:17:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-02-14T10:17:31 #kisslinux <adamantium> so the only thing you (or anybody) do, is 1. open [OUTDATED] bug, 2. wait X grace period days, 3. drop it
2020-02-14T10:17:44 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I will be limiting myself to the official repositories and anything I currently maintain & use in community.
2020-02-14T10:18:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> I would like an option for maintainer to open a github bug also as [ADOPT ME] perhaps with an expiration date for removal.
2020-02-14T10:19:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> You could do that dylanaraps , people might help you out
2020-02-14T10:19:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing stops you from doing so now.
2020-02-14T10:19:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I am
2020-02-14T10:19:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> btrfs
2020-02-14T10:19:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> HEHE
2020-02-14T10:19:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> bye bye
2020-02-14T10:24:54 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: But yeah, now that i've purged BB and gone full-gnu, I leave it to others to do the same thing in the opposite direction
2020-02-14T10:25:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm at my max, about for now. I will package sbcl more than likely, but pretty much, happy with things.
2020-02-14T10:27:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> I might package fscrypt but i hate that it's made by google and written in go. But currently seems the best option for ext4  native encryption............
2020-02-14T10:28:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/kisslinux/community/issues/374
2020-02-14T10:29:06 #kisslinux <adamantium> gnutls ?
2020-02-14T10:29:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ?
2020-02-14T10:29:59 #kisslinux <adamantium> nvm
2020-02-14T10:30:07 #kisslinux <adamantium> i mixed it up in my head with gnupg
2020-02-14T10:36:19 #kisslinux <konimex> I'm surprised libgpg-error goes into the chopping block since I thought gpg1 depends on it iirc
2020-02-14T10:36:48 #kisslinux <konimex> gpg2 definitely does need it and libgcrypt
2020-02-14T10:37:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: gnupg1 has no dependencies on other gnupg libs
2020-02-14T10:38:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Nothing in the official repositories *should* depend on anything from community.
2020-02-14T10:38:14 #kisslinux <konimex> and popt? efibootmgr requires them in make
2020-02-14T10:38:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh. That's then a bug.
2020-02-14T10:38:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll take popt into extra.
2020-02-14T10:38:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Or I'll patch efibootmgr to use getopt
2020-02-14T10:39:34 #kisslinux <konimex> hmm.. I'll need to review my system deps first
2020-02-14T10:40:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> You may want libaio too
2020-02-14T10:40:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As either lvm2 or cryptsetup require it
2020-02-14T10:41:04 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm taking gnutls and gnupg2 deps ofc
2020-02-14T10:41:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: konimex took gnutls
2020-02-14T10:41:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> ok as long as its in good hands
2020-02-14T10:41:29 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> and libaio... my bad
2020-02-14T10:41:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> :P
2020-02-14T10:42:27 #kisslinux <adamantium> just tell me what im doing ok
2020-02-14T10:42:33 #kisslinux <konimex> since libev is needed for picom anyone with compton might want to maintain that
2020-02-14T10:42:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> i need to keep gnupg2 and gnutls working
2020-02-14T10:42:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nettle has no use in the official repos
2020-02-14T10:43:02 #kisslinux <konimex> also, is there any RSS-to-email service?
2020-02-14T10:43:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> popt has singular usage through efibootmgr
2020-02-14T10:44:24 #kisslinux <konimex> also here libexif is needed by feh
2020-02-14T10:44:39 #kisslinux <konimex> and... you maintain feh
2020-02-14T10:44:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> feh is in community
2020-02-14T10:44:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's not on the list?
2020-02-14T10:45:00 #kisslinux <konimex> yes
2020-02-14T10:45:21 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's on the list now
2020-02-14T10:45:38 #kisslinux <konimex> with that out of the way, I'll maintain both feh and libexif
2020-02-14T10:45:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alright
2020-02-14T10:46:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll move popt to extra
2020-02-14T10:46:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tbh. We can drop libexif entirely as it should be optional for feh
2020-02-14T10:46:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Up to you.
2020-02-14T10:46:48 #kisslinux <konimex> two secs let me see config options
2020-02-14T10:47:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's just for the camera/location data inside of the images
2020-02-14T10:47:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (If it exists)
2020-02-14T10:47:35 #kisslinux <konimex> yep, let's remove it
2020-02-14T10:49:34 #kisslinux <konimex> I'll also take pcre and libev since picom needs it
2020-02-14T10:50:40 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> pcre is optional in picom fyi
2020-02-14T10:50:56 #kisslinux <konimex> yeah but I need the config so there's that
2020-02-14T10:51:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Gotcha
2020-02-14T10:51:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> dylanaraps: i will also take lua since conky needs it
2020-02-14T10:51:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-02-14T10:52:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dzove855: You should be able to build conky with luajit
2020-02-14T10:52:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then lua can be dropped
2020-02-14T10:52:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://github.com/brndnmtthws/conky/pull/723
2020-02-14T10:52:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nvm
2020-02-14T10:52:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-14T10:54:26 #kisslinux <dzove855> haha
2020-02-14T10:59:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> Where is the repology url that shows all packages from all maintainers that are OOD
2020-02-14T10:59:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> and why is repology so hard to navigate
2020-02-14T10:59:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OOD?
2020-02-14T10:59:25 #kisslinux <adamantium> out of date
2020-02-14T10:59:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> https://repology.org/projects/?inrepo=kiss_community&outdated=1
2020-02-14T11:00:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> showing me useless graphs
2020-02-14T11:00:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-14T11:01:42 #kisslinux <konimex> alright, for the packages I do use, that's about it
2020-02-14T11:01:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> ty
2020-02-14T11:02:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-02-14T11:02:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> adamantium: guile is already out of date...
2020-02-14T11:03:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a box I trust you to tick in the PR.
2020-02-14T11:04:00 #kisslinux <adamantium> sorry
2020-02-14T11:04:03 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'll do better.
2020-02-14T11:04:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Also, tcl is broken
2020-02-14T11:04:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> Can we just make compton an alias for picom and picom install a compton symlink pointing to compton
2020-02-14T11:04:46 #kisslinux <adamantium> poitning to picom*
2020-02-14T11:05:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's a difference between compton and picom
2020-02-14T11:06:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Every fork of this compositor adds more dependencies
2020-02-14T11:06:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> xcompmgr -> xcompmgr-dana -> compton -> picom
2020-02-14T11:06:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The first two may be the same ;)
2020-02-14T11:06:47 #kisslinux <konimex> alright, building a cleanroom wyverkiss rootfs now
2020-02-14T11:06:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nice
2020-02-14T11:07:03 #kisslinux <konimex> for now the target is to make it work with all core packages + the kernel
2020-02-14T11:08:09 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: according to gnu website "The latest release of Guile's legacy 2.2.x series is 2.2.6"
2020-02-14T11:08:14 #kisslinux <adamantium> https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/download/
2020-02-14T11:08:36 #kisslinux <adamantium> Do you prefer latest 3.0?
2020-02-14T11:08:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> Even Arch is still on "legacy"
2020-02-14T11:09:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I don't know. What's the difference?
2020-02-14T11:09:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> I find both acceptable,.
2020-02-14T11:10:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> The difference is compatibility with programs I'm sure
2020-02-14T11:10:52 #kisslinux <adamantium> 3.0 is fine for my purposes, but I went with 2.2.6 to be safe for everyone
2020-02-14T11:11:28 #kisslinux <adamantium> In this case, ticking the box, would not have helped, as I made a decision when choosing the version.
2020-02-14T11:11:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It'd be nice for me to know ;)
2020-02-14T11:12:20 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'll leave a comment next time before PR a package with a situation like that
2020-02-14T11:12:21 #kisslinux <adamantium> Sorry
2020-02-14T11:12:22 #kisslinux <konimex> you probably want to move it to guile2
2020-02-14T11:12:37 #kisslinux <adamantium> I dont think so
2020-02-14T11:12:50 #kisslinux <konimex> well arch does it and you pointed to arch so...
2020-02-14T11:12:58 #kisslinux <konimex> wait
2020-02-14T11:12:59 #kisslinux <konimex> never mind
2020-02-14T11:13:01 #kisslinux <konimex> guile2.0
2020-02-14T11:13:24 #kisslinux <konimex> so this is basically python but worse?
2020-02-14T11:13:29 #kisslinux <adamantium> lol
2020-02-14T11:13:40 #kisslinux <adamantium> ((((((((((((()))))))))))))
2020-02-14T11:13:41 #kisslinux <adamantium> yep
2020-02-14T11:45:09 #kisslinux <aarng> dylanaraps, I would take xsel from you
2020-02-14T11:46:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OK
2020-02-14T11:48:36 #kisslinux <konimex> is it just me or github just went down
2020-02-14T11:49:03 #kisslinux <aarng> working over here
2020-02-14T11:49:27 #kisslinux <aarng> I'd take tree too, dylan
2020-02-14T11:50:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alrighty
2020-02-14T11:51:52 #kisslinux <aarng> Is there a good way to add a dummy commit to have it appear in my repology feed or should I just track the general kiss feed for now?
2020-02-14T11:52:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Well, repology only tracks commits to the version file
2020-02-14T11:52:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Unless we can dummy that, no.
2020-02-14T11:52:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll do some research
2020-02-14T11:52:38 #kisslinux <aarng> gotcha
2020-02-14T11:55:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> aarng: git commit
2020-02-14T11:55:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps>     –allow-empty
2020-02-14T11:55:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> oops
2020-02-14T11:55:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> --allow-empty
2020-02-14T11:55:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Hm
2020-02-14T11:55:53 #kisslinux <aarng> yap just found that too
2020-02-14T11:55:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I might be wrong
2020-02-14T11:56:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > This switch performs a simple commit with no files changes but with a complete GIT object as of a regular commit.
2020-02-14T11:56:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It needs to change the version file
2020-02-14T11:56:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> But not change the contents of it
2020-02-14T11:56:34 #kisslinux <aarng> any particular message format you want?
2020-02-14T11:56:43 #kisslinux <aarng> pkg: new maintainer
2020-02-14T11:56:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-02-14T11:56:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That works
2020-02-14T12:00:44 #kisslinux <aarng> can you cherry pick such a commit only onto the correct package is the question
2020-02-14T12:00:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-02-14T12:01:08 #kisslinux <aarng> so I just make a normal PR ?
2020-02-14T12:01:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No idea. I was just agreeing with you
2020-02-14T12:01:47 #kisslinux <aarng> oh, lol
2020-02-14T12:02:50 #kisslinux <icyphox> evening
2020-02-14T12:02:56 #kisslinux <aarng> o/
2020-02-14T12:02:57 #kisslinux <icyphox> what's new KISS-bros
2020-02-14T12:03:13 #kisslinux <aarng> Another shit solution would be a 3rd field in version
2020-02-14T12:03:23 #kisslinux <aarng> or maybe even a maintainer file but that kinda sucks
2020-02-14T12:04:08 #kisslinux <adamantium> I'm for a maintainer file
2020-02-14T12:04:09 #kisslinux <aarng> trying to take maintainership of some of dylans community packages
2020-02-14T12:04:11 #kisslinux <adamantium> Can hardly track my own
2020-02-14T12:04:26 #kisslinux <aarng> lmao adamantium
2020-02-14T12:04:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'm not for a maintainer file
2020-02-14T12:05:11 #kisslinux <aarng> yeh, I'm not a fan of both things I suggested
2020-02-14T12:05:45 #kisslinux <adamantium> okie dokie
2020-02-14T12:05:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> git rm --cached community/pkg/version
2020-02-14T12:05:59 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> git add community/pkg/version
2020-02-14T12:06:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> tada
2020-02-14T12:06:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That should do it
2020-02-14T12:07:42 #kisslinux <adamantium> oh hi icyphox
2020-02-14T12:07:57 #kisslinux <adamantium> as long as it's not a BRO-KISS
2020-02-14T12:08:05 #kisslinux <aarng> ok, lemme try
2020-02-14T12:08:22 #kisslinux <icyphox> hey adamantium
2020-02-14T12:08:28 #kisslinux <icyphox> lmao
2020-02-14T12:08:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Oh
2020-02-14T12:08:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> nop
2020-02-14T12:11:49 #kisslinux <konimex> for some reason Noto Mono decided to render numbers as... emoji
2020-02-14T12:12:00 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-14T12:12:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> dylanaraps: I exchanged emails with ioraff, he said he will adopt it
2020-02-14T12:12:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> I would update the maintainer file, but meh
2020-02-14T12:12:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> (tcl)
2020-02-14T12:12:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Alright
2020-02-14T12:13:02 #kisslinux <adamantium> mahalo
2020-02-14T12:13:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll find a way to update maintainer through git
2020-02-14T12:13:24 #kisslinux <adamantium> Yeah we will get this all dialed in
2020-02-14T12:13:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Without requiring a change be made)
2020-02-14T12:13:32 #kisslinux <adamantium> great job on the guidestones
2020-02-14T12:13:38 #kisslinux <adamantium> i love that it is .txt <3
2020-02-14T12:23:20 #kisslinux <aarng> welcome to the future, konimex
2020-02-14T12:24:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> fyi
2020-02-14T12:24:23 #kisslinux <aarng> I can adopt bspwm too, but let's wait until we have a proper solution
2020-02-14T12:24:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Simplest solution is to just add a trailing space
2020-02-14T12:24:37 #kisslinux <aarng> so you don't have to also keep track of another thing now
2020-02-14T12:24:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Trailing space!
2020-02-14T12:25:02 #kisslinux <aarng> kinda dirty, up to you
2020-02-14T12:25:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> "1.0.0 1 "
2020-02-14T12:25:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The other option is two commits
2020-02-14T12:25:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> One to rename version to version2 and another to rename it back (Though this may not trick git)
2020-02-14T12:25:56 #kisslinux <aarng> at that point, we could just add the maintainer after the space
2020-02-14T12:26:03 #kisslinux <aarng> can always remove it the next time the version changes
2020-02-14T12:26:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> That'd break the package manager ;)
2020-02-14T12:26:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It assumes two fields
2020-02-14T12:26:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> As that is the format for version
2020-02-14T12:27:14 #kisslinux <aarng> right, that would need package manager changes
2020-02-14T12:27:20 #kisslinux <aarng> fuck that then
2020-02-14T12:27:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Would also break user scripts
2020-02-14T12:27:32 #kisslinux <aarng> true
2020-02-14T12:27:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> A trailing space isn't noticeable and is backwards compatible
2020-02-14T12:28:01 #kisslinux <konimex> aarng: sorry, I nabbed bspwm
2020-02-14T12:28:20 #kisslinux <aarng> np
2020-02-14T12:28:25 #kisslinux <aarng> just trying to help dylan
2020-02-14T12:28:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't adopt anything you aren't using ;)
2020-02-14T12:29:07 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, those are all things I use
2020-02-14T12:29:14 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> gotcha
2020-02-14T12:29:37 #kisslinux <aarng> and you probably don't, that's how I selected them ;)
2020-02-14T12:30:00 #kisslinux <konimex> man I fucking hate aws
2020-02-14T12:30:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Does anyone like aws?
2020-02-14T12:32:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Another option is to clean up the package if it needs it.
2020-02-14T12:32:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-14T12:37:25 #kisslinux <konimex> say, can anyone try https://github.com/konimex/wyverkiss/tree/master/core/make ?
2020-02-14T12:37:45 #kisslinux <konimex> for some reason it fails to register the "getopts"
2020-02-14T12:38:01 #kisslinux <konimex> building it manually works though
2020-02-14T12:39:35 #kisslinux <konimex> hmm... interesting
2020-02-14T12:39:43 #kisslinux <konimex> packaging it as bmake makes it work as normal
2020-02-14T12:39:52 #kisslinux <konimex> packaging it as "make" would error out
2020-02-14T12:42:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Weird
2020-02-14T12:42:12 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will try
2020-02-14T12:44:19 #kisslinux <aarng> terminus-font has python as build-time dep
2020-02-14T12:44:21 #kisslinux <aarng> 10/10
2020-02-14T12:44:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yup
2020-02-14T12:45:07 #kisslinux <aarng> I think imma take it anyway, might be a fun challenge to get rid of it
2020-02-14T12:45:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Could just ship the compiled fonts
2020-02-14T12:46:18 #kisslinux <aarng> or that even, although it has some options actually
2020-02-14T12:46:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: It does fail as 'make'
2020-02-14T12:46:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-14T12:47:15 #kisslinux <konimex> so what the fuck happened there
2020-02-14T12:47:26 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> No idea
2020-02-14T12:47:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will do some digging
2020-02-14T12:47:43 #kisslinux <mforney> aarng: i use this awk script instead of ucstoany.py: https://github.com/oasislinux/oasis/blob/master/pkg/terminus-font/ucstoany.awk
2020-02-14T12:47:45 #kisslinux <konimex> computers, man
2020-02-14T12:47:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > ./boot-strap [--<configure_arg> ...][<prefix>][--install]
2020-02-14T12:47:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> -> make Build failed
2020-02-14T12:48:13 #kisslinux <aarng> cheers, mforney
2020-02-14T12:48:18 #kisslinux <aarng> will have a look
2020-02-14T12:51:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> OH
2020-02-14T12:51:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: It has to be in a dir called 'bmake' to build
2020-02-14T12:51:50 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Really shitty shell
2020-02-14T12:52:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It just so happens that calling it 'bmake' puts it into a dir called 'bmake'
2020-02-14T12:52:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Append 'bmake' to sources
2020-02-14T12:52:46 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Then run 'bmake/boot-strap'
2020-02-14T12:52:52 #kisslinux <konimex> got it
2020-02-14T12:52:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> (Or cd bmake)
2020-02-14T12:53:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It checks to see that it's running from 'bmake/'
2020-02-14T12:53:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> lol
2020-02-14T12:53:13 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Horrible
2020-02-14T14:05:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: Apologies for the outdated pkg -- was dealing with IRL stuff the past week.
2020-02-14T14:05:04 #kisslinux <icyphox> Updating now.
2020-02-14T14:05:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> Just added the repology feed to my feedreader, TIL.
2020-02-14T14:11:56 #kisslinux <adamantium> tsk tsk
2020-02-14T14:54:05 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: All good
2020-02-14T14:55:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> icyphox: Why does your PR show gdb as a new package instead of just a version bump?
2020-02-14T14:59:08 #kisslinux <icyphox> Huh.
2020-02-14T14:59:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> dylanaraps: I pushed to thr existing 'gdb' branch. Is that why?
2020-02-14T15:01:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Will fix
2020-02-14T15:02:22 #kisslinux <icyphox> Shall I create a new PR instead?
2020-02-14T15:02:32 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I fixed it
2020-02-14T15:02:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> All good
2020-02-14T15:03:13 #kisslinux <icyphox> Alrighty.
2020-02-14T15:03:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Thanks
2020-02-14T15:20:58 #kisslinux <konimex> just a few packages more to build and 0.0.1 should be ready
2020-02-14T15:21:54 #kisslinux <konimex> now I need to document how to build kernel and such
2020-02-14T15:48:21 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: hi! do you have any plans to re-do package manager in compiled language like C ?
2020-02-14T15:50:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> illiliti: No
2020-02-14T15:50:43 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Anyone could do it though
2020-02-14T15:55:06 #kisslinux <illiliti> alright. maybe you have reason?
2020-02-14T15:56:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-14T15:56:27 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> We already have a package manager
2020-02-14T16:03:01 #kisslinux <dzove855> +1
2020-02-14T16:03:27 #kisslinux <dzove855> Still you remind me, to continue working on biss, i just waited that you finish all your changes on kiss
2020-02-14T16:05:28 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> dzove855: Eventually I'll call kiss "done".
2020-02-14T16:05:38 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> There's just a couple of things I'd like to add.
2020-02-14T16:06:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1. Replaying any post-install messages (or /etc warnings, etc) right at the end
2020-02-14T16:06:34 #kisslinux <dzove855> yeeey, i think i have recreated the same function 3 times since you where changing also haha
2020-02-14T16:06:42 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2. Add comment support to 'sources'
2020-02-14T16:07:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 3. ???
2020-02-14T16:07:49 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i think i will not enable bash -e, and add a stacktrace function with exit like this: https://github.com/yoctu/yosh/blob/master/lib/cli.sh#L60
2020-02-14T16:08:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Neat
2020-02-14T16:09:10 #kisslinux <dzove855> i realy don't like how bash output error..
2020-02-14T16:31:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: popt is back in community. Removed the dependency from efibootmgr.
2020-02-14T16:52:40 #kisslinux <konimex> it's done, 100MB (since I installed everything and not just host for LLVM), 7/23(+1) packages in the rootfs need GNU make
2020-02-14T16:53:53 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> konimex: Nice
2020-02-14T16:54:18 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I'll be dropping mandoc from the chroots by default from the next build I do
2020-02-14T16:54:30 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Can be installed by the user if they'd like it
2020-02-14T17:00:19 #kisslinux <konimex> https://github.com/konimex/wyverkiss/releases/tag/0.0.1
2020-02-14T17:00:54 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> neat
2020-02-14T17:23:52 #kisslinux <perish> Hola.
2020-02-14T17:25:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ello
2020-02-14T17:25:32 #kisslinux <perish> Finally done with packaging snapback.
2020-02-14T17:25:34 #kisslinux <perish> Wait
2020-02-14T17:25:38 #kisslinux <perish> No, flatpak
2020-02-14T17:25:41 #kisslinux <perish> curious merging there
2020-02-14T17:26:25 #kisslinux <fehawen> dylanaraps: The day you call KISS "done", what'll the next project be? ;)
2020-02-14T17:27:46 #kisslinux <perish> Hola
2020-02-14T17:27:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> perish: Likely, won't be suitable for community.
2020-02-14T17:27:55 #kisslinux <perish> Well aware.
2020-02-14T17:28:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> fehawen: I'm working on big things off-screen
2020-02-14T17:28:16 #kisslinux <perish> Got my own repos. I'll still be adding some stuff to the community repo, such as the custard window manager.
2020-02-14T17:28:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yeah
2020-02-14T17:28:44 #kisslinux <fehawen> dylanaraps: Ah, life in the IRL world. That must be nice
2020-02-14T17:29:41 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Heh
2020-02-14T17:30:05 #kisslinux <perish> Would the javascript implementation be appropriate for community?
2020-02-14T17:30:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Probably
2020-02-14T17:30:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If it doesn't pull in any of the "modern linux" stuff
2020-02-14T17:33:39 #kisslinux <perish> Shouldn't
2020-02-14T17:34:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Should be fine
2020-02-14T17:34:15 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send a PR and I'll take a look-see
2020-02-14T17:34:31 #kisslinux <perish> Would I submit a PR for every individual package?
2020-02-14T17:35:07 #kisslinux <perish> I've been packaging a lot, as you can probably tell
2020-02-14T17:35:22 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-02-14T17:59:14 #kisslinux <perish> dylanaraps What happened to getkiss.org?
2020-02-14T18:00:36 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The site is now at k1ss.org
2020-02-14T18:00:45 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Though getkiss.org redirects there
2020-02-14T18:00:55 #kisslinux <perish> Why?
2020-02-14T18:01:25 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's shorter
2020-02-14T18:01:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> getkiss translates to goat-piss in swedish
2020-02-14T18:01:47 #kisslinux <perish> Ah
2020-02-14T18:01:47 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Domain is set to expire in a few months and a new one is cheaper
2020-02-14T18:01:50 #kisslinux <perish> lmao
2020-02-14T18:01:55 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> ;)
2020-02-14T18:03:23 #kisslinux <icyphox> k1ss is kinda weird
2020-02-14T18:03:31 #kisslinux <icyphox> there's kiss.dev available tho
2020-02-14T18:03:43 #kisslinux <perish> reminds me of the iOS jailbreak naming scheme
2020-02-14T18:07:16 #kisslinux <perish> hm
2020-02-14T18:07:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > kiss.dev
2020-02-14T18:07:56 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Registered in 2019
2020-02-14T18:07:57 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> More info
2020-02-14T18:08:04 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Make Offer
2020-02-14T18:08:07 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> I checked
2020-02-14T18:08:09 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Don't worry
2020-02-14T18:08:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > Registered at: Google LLC.Google LLC.
2020-02-14T18:08:57 #kisslinux <perish> hm, what package provides gpgconf?
2020-02-14T18:09:01 #kisslinux <perish> gnupg2?
2020-02-14T18:09:04 #kisslinux <perish> gnupg3?
2020-02-14T18:09:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 2
2020-02-14T18:09:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 3 doesn't exist
2020-02-14T18:09:16 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> 1 doesn't provide it
2020-02-14T18:09:30 #kisslinux <perish> Does 2 provide everything 1 does?
2020-02-14T18:09:37 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> And more
2020-02-14T18:09:43 #kisslinux <perish> Alright, thanks
2020-02-14T18:09:48 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It also pulls in 5~ dependencies
2020-02-14T18:09:52 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> whereas 1 has 0
2020-02-14T18:09:55 #kisslinux <perish> Ah
2020-02-14T18:10:05 #kisslinux <perish> That's a price that gpgme is willing to take, apparently
2020-02-14T18:10:08 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> gnupg1 is legacy and intended for embedded systems
2020-02-14T18:10:23 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> gnupg2 is intended for "desktop" where bloat is a requirement
2020-02-14T18:10:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> :)
2020-02-14T18:55:06 #kisslinux <perish> Hm
2020-02-14T18:55:08 #kisslinux <perish> 'makeinfo' is missing on your system.
2020-02-14T18:55:51 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Which package?
2020-02-14T18:55:56 #kisslinux <perish> My own.
2020-02-14T18:55:58 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> See the binutils build file
2020-02-14T18:56:04 #kisslinux <perish> Will do.
2020-02-14T18:56:11 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> If there isn't an option to --disable-info or --disable-docs
2020-02-14T18:56:17 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It's from info pages
2020-02-14T18:57:55 #kisslinux <perish> Oh, if only GNU actually told me their dependencies in the two install pages.
2020-02-14T18:58:20 #kisslinux <perish> That would be too convenient, I suppose.
2020-02-14T19:00:33 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It would
2020-02-14T20:11:06 #kisslinux <perish> ../gio/gresource-tool.c:32:10: fatal error: libelf.h: No such file or directory
2020-02-14T20:11:07 #kisslinux <perish> hm
2020-02-14T20:11:30 #kisslinux <perish> this is on glib
2020-02-14T20:13:16 #kisslinux <perish> hm
2020-02-14T21:03:34 #kisslinux <perish> hola
2020-02-14T21:03:37 #kisslinux <perish> que tal?
2020-02-14T21:30:35 #kisslinux <perish> anyone able to help with this
2020-02-14T21:30:38 #kisslinux <perish> ERROR: The OLD_CONFIGURE environment variable must be set
2020-02-14T21:30:49 #kisslinux <perish> what is the old configure envuroment variable
2020-02-14T21:44:50 #kisslinux <cu4p7> usrvar ???
2020-02-14T21:46:29 #kisslinux <perish> Wat
2020-02-14T21:46:37 #kisslinux <perish> why are you using backslashes
2020-02-14T21:46:40 #kisslinux <perish> this isn't DOS
2020-02-14T21:47:47 #kisslinux <cu4p7> idk
2020-02-14T22:01:01 #kisslinux <cu4p7>  i?zopqxcn"d? IZO
2020-02-14T22:01:01 #kisslinux <cu4p7> AZSX2
2020-02-14T22:05:05 #kisslinux <perish> why are you like this
2020-02-14T22:14:44 #kisslinux <perish> where is dylan i need him
2020-02-14T22:15:58 #kisslinux <perish> hello dilyn do you know where dylan is
2020-02-14T22:17:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> He's probably asleep
2020-02-14T22:17:42 #kisslinux <perish> f
2020-02-14T22:17:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lol
2020-02-14T22:17:59 #kisslinux <perish> i just tried to compile something and im
2020-02-14T22:18:04 #kisslinux <perish> really not sure where it went wrong
2020-02-14T22:22:14 #kisslinux <ioraff> what'd you try to compile?
2020-02-14T22:22:25 #kisslinux <perish> Javascript.
2020-02-14T22:22:45 #kisslinux <perish> OStree has it as a dependency.
2020-02-14T22:22:55 #kisslinux <perish> Yay for 19k make logs.
2020-02-14T22:23:28 #kisslinux <perish> No errors shown, just make says that it's exiting.
2020-02-14T22:23:42 #kisslinux <perish> make[3]: Leaving directory '/root/.cache/kiss/build-21005/js60/js/src/build_OPT.OBJ/js/src'make[2]: Leaving directory '/root/.cache/kiss/build-21005/js60/js/src/build_OPT.OBJ'make[1]: *** [/root/.cache/kiss/build-21005/js60/config/recurse.mk:33: compile] Error 2make[1]: Leaving directory
2020-02-14T22:23:42 #kisslinux <perish> '/root/.cache/kiss/build-21005/js60/js/src/build_OPT.OBJ'make: *** [/root/.cache/kiss/build-21005/js60/config/rules.mk:434: default] Error 2
2020-02-14T22:25:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> Can't you run make as verbose to see more details
2020-02-14T22:25:22 #kisslinux <perish> Dear god I fucking beg no
2020-02-14T22:25:27 #kisslinux <perish> This took a fucking hour
2020-02-14T22:25:35 #kisslinux <perish> And printed 19000 lines
2020-02-14T22:25:41 #kisslinux <perish> do you think i want it more verbose?
2020-02-14T22:26:59 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lol
2020-02-14T22:27:01 #kisslinux <ioraff> it may be assuming some non-POSIX extension to some coreutil. did you check line 434 in config/rules.mk?
2020-02-14T22:27:47 #kisslinux <ioraff> also, it looks like alpine built ostree without js60. https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/ostree/APKBUILD
2020-02-14T22:27:55 #kisslinux <perish> holy shit?
2020-02-14T22:31:45 #kisslinux <perish> Wheres the patch located?
2020-02-14T22:32:45 #kisslinux <ioraff> there's no js patch in their tree. just one for musl. https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/ostree/musl-fixes.patch
2020-02-14T22:33:03 #kisslinux <perish> wait was i even building js60 for ostree
2020-02-14T22:33:15 #kisslinux <perish> no
2020-02-14T22:33:21 #kisslinux <perish> i was building it for polit
2020-02-14T22:33:23 #kisslinux <perish> polkit
2020-02-14T22:35:12 #kisslinux <ioraff> another option
2020-02-14T22:35:14 #kisslinux <ioraff> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/main/mozjs60?h=master
2020-02-14T22:35:38 #kisslinux <ioraff> which is what they build polkit with
2020-02-14T22:36:00 #kisslinux <perish> i'll try adapating these in
2020-02-14T22:36:48 #kisslinux <ioraff> which js60 implementation were you trying to build?
2020-02-14T22:36:55 #kisslinux <perish> mozjs60
2020-02-14T22:49:31 #kisslinux <illiliti> hehe https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/issues/642
2020-02-14T22:51:18 #kisslinux <ioraff> it's probably still only a matter of time.
2020-02-14T22:57:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> That's disgusting
2020-02-14T22:57:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> What's next
2020-02-14T22:58:31 #kisslinux <ioraff> systemd-muttd
2020-02-14T22:58:39 #kisslinux <ioraff> systemd-sendmaild
2020-02-14T22:59:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> vmlinuz-systemd
2020-02-14T23:00:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> Systemd-xorgd
2020-02-14T23:03:04 #kisslinux <sirtomato> whats up
2020-02-14T23:05:05 #kisslinux <perish> suffering
2020-02-14T23:05:15 #kisslinux <perish> js60 is building
2020-02-14T23:06:10 #kisslinux <cu4p7> is a building
2020-02-14T23:06:12 #kisslinux <sirtomato> rip
2020-02-14T23:06:17 #kisslinux <cu4p7> rar
2020-02-14T23:06:57 #kisslinux <sirtomato> how can i generate a checksums file without kiss util
2020-02-14T23:06:57 #kisslinux <perish> ok there we go
2020-02-14T23:07:06 #kisslinux <sirtomato> from a git repo
2020-02-14T23:07:07 #kisslinux <perish> kiss c package
2020-02-14T23:07:12 #kisslinux <perish> make the package
2020-02-14T23:07:15 #kisslinux <perish> kiss c package
2020-02-14T23:07:23 #kisslinux <perish> needs to be in the kiss path
2020-02-14T23:07:25 #kisslinux <sirtomato> *without kiss util*
2020-02-14T23:07:45 #kisslinux <perish> `kiss-util` != `kiss`
2020-02-14T23:07:53 #kisslinux <sirtomato> *without kiss util*
2020-02-14T23:07:56 #kisslinux <perish> `kiss c` != `kiss-util`
2020-02-14T23:07:57 #kisslinux <sirtomato> oops
2020-02-14T23:07:57 #kisslinux <cu4p7> join
2020-02-14T23:08:05 #kisslinux <sirtomato> without kiss c
2020-02-14T23:08:07 #kisslinux <sirtomato> mb
2020-02-14T23:08:08 #kisslinux <perish> why
2020-02-14T23:08:21 #kisslinux <cu4p7> yh
2020-02-14T23:08:59 #kisslinux <perish> https://github.com/kisslinux/kiss/blob/master/kiss#L658
2020-02-14T23:09:09 #kisslinux <perish> here's the function for generating checksums
2020-02-14T23:09:40 #kisslinux <sirtomato> thanks, that should work
2020-02-14T23:09:51 #kisslinux <perish> It's using a lot of vars from the shell tho
2020-02-14T23:10:35 #kisslinux <cu4p7> mlainceloanisndkleinal;sp cominece anlincelasmos oahs ome hmkeosie liks oane celakskzimlinabcenacelamksionine
2020-02-14T23:10:47 #kisslinux <perish> why are you here
2020-02-14T23:10:53 #kisslinux <perish> it's not particularly funny
2020-02-14T23:11:03 #kisslinux <sirtomato> just needed the git one
2020-02-14T23:11:10 #kisslinux <cu4p7> join. part.ition ligit
2020-02-14T23:11:17 #kisslinux <perish> hm
2020-02-14T23:11:23 #kisslinux <sirtomato> what even is that
2020-02-14T23:11:26 #kisslinux <perish> when can we get mercurial support for kiss
2020-02-14T23:11:36 #kisslinux <perish> i'll package mercurial
2020-02-14T23:11:39 #kisslinux <sirtomato> that seems very zero effor
2020-02-14T23:11:40 #kisslinux <sirtomato> that seems very zero effort
2020-02-14T23:11:54 #kisslinux <perish> then i'll fork kiss and add a pr
2020-02-14T23:12:17 #kisslinux <cu4p7> pink flowers
2020-02-14T23:12:41 #kisslinux <perish> >python
2020-02-14T23:12:42 #kisslinux <perish> no thanks
2020-02-14T23:13:21 #kisslinux <sirtomato> building xorg
2020-02-14T23:17:18 #kisslinux <sirtomato> is gnu libtool kiss colplient
2020-02-14T23:17:24 #kisslinux <sirtomato> would you say
2020-02-14T23:17:30 #kisslinux <sirtomato> *complient
2020-02-14T23:17:58 #kisslinux <cu4p7> |as/2-DE]98' i
2020-02-14T23:17:58 #kisslinux <cu4p7> `z-w1s=ed0ok]9['i wp
2020-02-14T23:17:58 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 3ijn[8; ue'iswp.a-W!S=e20
2020-02-14T23:17:58 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 4ikj[i' wa`zw12-e
2020-02-14T23:17:59 #kisslinux <cu4p7> ap=/`z-w-0ed4ws1d4e0fj[9n8i 'wo
2020-02-14T23:17:59 #kisslinux <cu4p7> ij[8i '3woe40
2020-02-14T23:18:00 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 0ij[98ni'e 3o,q/*s-2w3=-azsij9[ni' eo-4
2020-02-14T23:18:01 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 0q[/[-4
2020-02-14T23:18:01 #kisslinux <sirtomato> stop
2020-02-14T23:18:01 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 0ij=[8n ;ie'3wo2.q/|as2w3=-w.[/q's-w3-44
2020-02-14T23:18:02 #kisslinux <cu4p7> 0j9[ni 'e3os3w-]4
2020-02-14T23:18:02 #kisslinux <cu4p7> w2/qa-s2`3=j9[i' 3ow
2020-02-14T23:18:09 #kisslinux <sirtomato> please stop
2020-02-14T23:18:12 #kisslinux <perish> not funny
2020-02-14T23:18:15 #kisslinux <sirtomato> thats not helpful
2020-02-14T23:18:16 #kisslinux <perish> cringe, even
2020-02-14T23:19:50 #kisslinux <illiliti> ohh, what is this? someone copy binary to message?
2020-02-14T23:26:55 #kisslinux <perish> hm
2020-02-14T23:27:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> If this Fortran compiler doesn't build I will eat my shoes I s2g
2020-02-14T23:42:30 #kisslinux <jedavies> Finally done with rust on arm.  What a nightmare.
2020-02-14T23:46:36 #kisslinux <ExPl0iTeD18> Hi everyone
2020-02-14T23:46:48 #kisslinux <jedavies> Hi
2020-02-14T23:47:39 #kisslinux <ExPl0iTeD18> which subjet in this canal?
2020-02-14T23:48:32 #kisslinux <ExPl0iTeD18> i starting use linux, if you have some source for learning linux, im interested
2020-02-14T23:49:06 #kisslinux <jedavies> Please see the website in the topic.  It describes KISS Linux.
2020-02-14T23:49:37 #kisslinux <ExPl0iTeD18> ok