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I'd like to announce that SimplyNews is now available on gemini: gemini://simplynews.metalune.xyz just open it and see, we offer a small range of mirrored news sites, you can also open existing articles by appending it with gemini://simplynews.metalune.xyz/ i.e. if you want to look at https://dt.gl/some/random/article you would do gemini://simplynews.metalune.xyz/dt.gl/some/andom/article. I would also appreciate it if it wouldn't get *too* popular as it's a little "iffy" legally speaking (at least here in germany) Have a nice day everyone
> On Mar 1, 2021, at 21:51, metalune <metalune at mailbox.org> wrote: > > at least here in germany Fun fact: In Germany, if something is not explicitly allowed, then it's implicitly forbidden. It's like that. In other news: /They Live/ and the secret history of the Mozilla logo https://www.jwz.org/blog/2016/10/they-live-and-the-secret-history-of-the-mozilla-logo/ ?0?
If you know it's iffy legally speaking, why do it? Taking one example from the list, https://nypost.com/terms/ has the following clause: > 7.2 The Services are to be used solely for your non-exclusive, non-assignable, non-transferable and limited personal use and for no other purposes. You may not exceed the limited rights and access provided to you under these Terms. You must not alter, delete or conceal any copyright, trademark, service mark or other notices contained on the Services, including, without limitation, notices on any Content you transmit, download, display, print, stream or reproduce from the Services. Except as expressly authorized by Company and set forth in Additional Terms (e.g., Services that allow for the use of embeddable or viral features, applications, etc.), you shall not, nor shall you allow any third party (whether or not for your benefit or otherwise) to, frame, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, display, perform, publish, distribute, disseminate, broadcast or circulate to any third party (including, without limitation, on or via a third-party website or platform), or otherwise use, any Content without the express, prior written consent of Company or its owner if Company is not the owner. [..] I imagine other publications have something similar Previous discussion on a similar subject - gemini://gemi.dev/gemini-mailing-list/messages/005206.gmi And a quote from Louis from the same thread: > I think Gemini should be known for genuine content and services, not stripped-down copies and bridges from the http world. Now if you were using a public API exposed by these publications (if it exists) and explicitly allow this use case, I think that would be very much welcomed.
Mar 1, 2021, 12:51 by metalune at mailbox.org: > I'd like to announce that SimplyNews is now available on gemini: > gemini://simplynews.metalune.xyz > just open it and see, we offer a small range of mirrored news sites > thanks for sharing! It's nice to be able to access these through Gemini and to be able to jump to the HTTP site if needed. one suggestion: it'd be really nice if the article listings led with the date, so that we could subscribe to individual sites if we wanted to
> one suggestion: it'd be really nice if the article listings led with the > date, so that we could subscribe to individual sites if we wanted to I've heard this suggestion before and at the moment it's probably best to just subscribe to the RSS feed of the site itself, as that's all we do to fetch the current "recent articles"
On 02/03/21 12:19, Peter Vernigorov wrote: > I imagine other publications have something similar The Guardian are a lot more cool with it. To get an API key on their open platform, you need to jump through some hoops and get approval. But in principal they're not against having their content redistributed. https://open-platform.theguardian.com/ Unfortunately, its not possible to follow their requirements to the letter using Gemtext. For example, you're not allowed to mess with the HTML, and you need to show a "Powered by The Guardian" image. I'm not using the API for gemini://guardian.shit.cx, but I eventually intend to eventually conform more closely to the conditions of open platform. By the way, I really like Simple News. Great work. -- Jon
On Wed Mar 3, 2021 at 12:21 AM CET, Jon wrote: > On 02/03/21 12:19, Peter Vernigorov wrote: > > I imagine other publications have something similar > > The Guardian are a lot more cool with it. To get an API key on their > open platform, you need to jump through some hoops and get approval. But > in principal they're not against having their content redistributed. We, as a project (Simple Web) try to avoid using official APIs, especially if they require API keys and such because we want our software to be able to be run by everyone without requiring an API key or developer account or such. SimplyNews is not just a gemini service, but also available as a web service and (in the works) a desktop application. This is why it would be unsuitable to use API keys. > gemini://guardian.shit.cx I really like that, especially because it allows you to choose the RSS feed you want to look at (we have something like this planned, and we call it "sections" but it's far from being implemented due to lack of time) > By the way, I really like Simple News. Great work. Thanks :)
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