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Given that we are *not* going to change the definition of text/gemini, but that many people want italics (including me), I have prepared some instructions aimed at programmers of client software who would like to support the _underscore emphasis_ convention. 0. Under no circumstances are underscores to be removed from the text. That compensates for less-than-infallible algorithms. 1. If an underscore appears outside an emphasized text section, and is at the beginning of a text line or after the # characters in a header line, or is preceded by a whitespace character, then it marks the beginning of an emphasized-text section (rendered as italics or in some other way). 2. If an underscore appears inside an emphasized text section, and is at the end of a line, or is followed by whitespace, sentence-terminating punctuation, or parenthesis- or quotation-terminating punctuation, then it marks the end of the emphasized-text section. These rules exclude underscores in things like snake_case_variables, while supporting most actual uses. 3. An emphasized-text section ends unconditionally at the end of a line. The attached file specifies all the Unicode whitespace and terminating punctuation, from the Unicode Character Database. There are quite a few, but you don't even need a regular expression, just a list of the characters. I hope this is helpful and/or inspirational. John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan at ccil.org People go through the bother of Christmas because Christmas helps them to understand why they go through the bother of living out their lives the rest of the year. For one brief instant, we see human society as it should and could be, a world in which business has become the exchanging of presents and in which nothing is important except the happiness and well-being of the ultimate consumer. --Northrop Frye (1948) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20201112/9d00 22fa/attachment-0001.htm> -------------- next part -------------- 0009..000D ; White_Space # Cc [5] <control-0009>..<control-000D> 0020 ; White_Space # Zs SPACE 0085 ; White_Space # Cc <control-0085> 00A0 ; White_Space # Zs NO-BREAK SPACE 1680 ; White_Space # Zs OGHAM SPACE MARK 2000..200A ; White_Space # Zs [11] EN QUAD..HAIR SPACE 2028 ; White_Space # Zl LINE SEPARATOR 2029 ; White_Space # Zp PARAGRAPH SEPARATOR 202F ; White_Space # Zs NARROW NO-BREAK SPACE 205F ; White_Space # Zs MEDIUM MATHEMATICAL SPACE 3000 ; White_Space # Zs IDEOGRAPHIC SPACE # Total code points: 25 # ================================================ 0021 ; STerm # Po EXCLAMATION MARK 003F ; STerm # Po QUESTION MARK 0589 ; STerm # Po ARMENIAN FULL STOP 061E..061F ; STerm # Po [2] ARABIC TRIPLE DOT PUNCTUATION MARK..ARABIC QUESTION MARK 06D4 ; STerm # Po ARABIC FULL STOP 0700..0702 ; STerm # Po [3] SYRIAC END OF PARAGRAPH..SYRIAC SUBLINEAR FULL STOP 07F9 ; STerm # Po NKO EXCLAMATION MARK 0837 ; STerm # Po SAMARITAN PUNCTUATION MELODIC QITSA 0839 ; STerm # Po SAMARITAN PUNCTUATION QITSA 083D..083E ; STerm # Po [2] SAMARITAN PUNCTUATION SOF MASHFAAT..SAMARITAN PUNCTUATION ANNAAU 0964..0965 ; STerm # Po [2] DEVANAGARI DANDA..DEVANAGARI DOUBLE DANDA 104A..104B ; STerm # Po [2] MYANMAR SIGN LITTLE SECTION..MYANMAR SIGN SECTION 1362 ; STerm # Po ETHIOPIC FULL STOP 1367..1368 ; STerm # Po [2] ETHIOPIC QUESTION MARK..ETHIOPIC PARAGRAPH SEPARATOR 166E ; STerm # Po CANADIAN SYLLABICS FULL STOP 1735..1736 ; STerm # Po [2] PHILIPPINE SINGLE PUNCTUATION..PHILIPPINE DOUBLE PUNCTUATION 1803 ; STerm # Po MONGOLIAN FULL STOP 1809 ; STerm # Po MONGOLIAN MANCHU FULL STOP 1944..1945 ; STerm # Po [2] LIMBU EXCLAMATION MARK..LIMBU QUESTION MARK 1AA8..1AAB ; STerm # Po [4] TAI THAM SIGN KAAN..TAI THAM SIGN SATKAANKUU 1B5A..1B5B ; STerm # Po [2] BALINESE PANTI..BALINESE PAMADA 1B5E..1B5F ; STerm # Po [2] BALINESE CARIK SIKI..BALINESE CARIK PAREREN 1C3B..1C3C ; STerm # Po [2] LEPCHA PUNCTUATION TA-ROL..LEPCHA PUNCTUATION NYET THYOOM TA-ROL 1C7E..1C7F ; STerm # Po [2] OL CHIKI PUNCTUATION MUCAAD..OL CHIKI PUNCTUATION DOUBLE MUCAAD 203C..203D ; STerm # Po [2] DOUBLE EXCLAMATION MARK..INTERROBANG 2047..2049 ; STerm # Po [3] DOUBLE QUESTION MARK..EXCLAMATION QUESTION MARK 2E2E ; STerm # Po REVERSED QUESTION MARK 2E3C ; STerm # Po STENOGRAPHIC FULL STOP 3002 ; STerm # Po IDEOGRAPHIC FULL STOP A4FF ; STerm # Po LISU PUNCTUATION FULL STOP A60E..A60F ; STerm # Po [2] VAI FULL STOP..VAI QUESTION MARK A6F3 ; STerm # Po BAMUM FULL STOP A6F7 ; STerm # Po BAMUM QUESTION MARK A876..A877 ; STerm # Po [2] PHAGS-PA MARK SHAD..PHAGS-PA MARK DOUBLE SHAD A8CE..A8CF ; STerm # Po [2] SAURASHTRA DANDA..SAURASHTRA DOUBLE DANDA A92F ; STerm # Po KAYAH LI SIGN SHYA A9C8..A9C9 ; STerm # Po [2] JAVANESE PADA LINGSA..JAVANESE PADA LUNGSI AA5D..AA5F ; STerm # Po [3] CHAM PUNCTUATION DANDA..CHAM PUNCTUATION TRIPLE DANDA AAF0..AAF1 ; STerm # Po [2] MEETEI MAYEK CHEIKHAN..MEETEI MAYEK AHANG KHUDAM ABEB ; STerm # Po MEETEI MAYEK CHEIKHEI FE56..FE57 ; STerm # Po [2] SMALL QUESTION MARK..SMALL EXCLAMATION MARK FF01 ; STerm # Po FULLWIDTH EXCLAMATION MARK FF1F ; STerm # Po FULLWIDTH QUESTION MARK FF61 ; STerm # Po HALFWIDTH IDEOGRAPHIC FULL STOP 10A56..10A57 ; STerm # Po [2] KHAROSHTHI PUNCTUATION DANDA..KHAROSHTHI PUNCTUATION DOUBLE DANDA 10F55..10F59 ; STerm # Po [5] SOGDIAN PUNCTUATION TWO VERTICAL BARS..SOGDIAN PUNCTUATION HALF CIRCLE WITH DOT 11047..11048 ; STerm # Po [2] BRAHMI DANDA..BRAHMI DOUBLE DANDA 110BE..110C1 ; STerm # Po [4] KAITHI SECTION MARK..KAITHI DOUBLE DANDA 11141..11143 ; STerm # Po [3] CHAKMA DANDA..CHAKMA QUESTION MARK 111C5..111C6 ; STerm # Po [2] SHARADA DANDA..SHARADA DOUBLE DANDA 111CD ; STerm # Po SHARADA SUTRA MARK 111DE..111DF ; STerm # Po [2] SHARADA SECTION MARK-1..SHARADA SECTION MARK-2 11238..11239 ; STerm # Po [2] KHOJKI DANDA..KHOJKI DOUBLE DANDA 1123B..1123C ; STerm # Po [2] KHOJKI SECTION MARK..KHOJKI DOUBLE SECTION MARK 112A9 ; STerm # Po MULTANI SECTION MARK 1144B..1144C ; STerm # Po [2] NEWA DANDA..NEWA DOUBLE DANDA 115C2..115C3 ; STerm # Po [2] SIDDHAM DANDA..SIDDHAM DOUBLE DANDA 115C9..115D7 ; STerm # Po [15] SIDDHAM END OF TEXT MARK..SIDDHAM SECTION MARK WITH CIRCLES AND FOUR ENCLOSURES 11641..11642 ; STerm # Po [2] MODI DANDA..MODI DOUBLE DANDA 1173C..1173E ; STerm # Po [3] AHOM SIGN SMALL SECTION..AHOM SIGN RULAI 11944 ; STerm # Po DIVES AKURU DOUBLE DANDA 11946 ; STerm # Po DIVES AKURU END OF TEXT MARK 11A42..11A43 ; STerm # Po [2] ZANABAZAR SQUARE MARK SHAD..ZANABAZAR SQUARE MARK DOUBLE SHAD 11A9B..11A9C ; STerm # Po [2] SOYOMBO MARK SHAD..SOYOMBO MARK DOUBLE SHAD 11C41..11C42 ; STerm # Po [2] BHAIKSUKI DANDA..BHAIKSUKI DOUBLE DANDA 11EF7..11EF8 ; STerm # Po [2] MAKASAR PASSIMBANG..MAKASAR END OF SECTION 16A6E..16A6F ; STerm # Po [2] MRO DANDA..MRO DOUBLE DANDA 16AF5 ; STerm # Po BASSA VAH FULL STOP 16B37..16B38 ; STerm # Po [2] PAHAWH HMONG SIGN VOS THOM..PAHAWH HMONG SIGN VOS TSHAB CEEB 16B44 ; STerm # Po PAHAWH HMONG SIGN XAUS 16E98 ; STerm # Po MEDEFAIDRIN FULL STOP 1BC9F ; STerm # Po DUPLOYAN PUNCTUATION CHINOOK FULL STOP 1DA88 ; STerm # Po SIGNWRITING FULL STOP # Total code points: 140 # ================================================ 0022 ; Close # Po QUOTATION MARK 0027 ; Close # Po APOSTROPHE 0028 ; Close # Ps LEFT PARENTHESIS 0029 ; Close # Pe RIGHT PARENTHESIS 005B ; Close # Ps LEFT SQUARE BRACKET 005D ; Close # Pe RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET 007B ; Close # Ps LEFT CURLY BRACKET 007D ; Close # Pe RIGHT CURLY BRACKET 00AB ; Close # Pi LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK 00BB ; Close # Pf RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK 0F3A ; Close # Ps TIBETAN MARK GUG RTAGS GYON 0F3B ; Close # Pe TIBETAN MARK GUG RTAGS GYAS 0F3C ; Close # Ps TIBETAN MARK ANG KHANG GYON 0F3D ; Close # Pe TIBETAN MARK ANG KHANG GYAS 169B ; Close # Ps OGHAM FEATHER MARK 169C ; Close # Pe OGHAM REVERSED FEATHER MARK 2018 ; Close # Pi LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK 2019 ; Close # Pf RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK 201A ; Close # Ps SINGLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK 201B..201C ; Close # Pi [2] SINGLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK..LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK 201D ; Close # Pf RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK 201E ; Close # Ps DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK 201F ; Close # Pi DOUBLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK 2039 ; Close # Pi SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK 203A ; Close # Pf SINGLE RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK 2045 ; Close # Ps LEFT SQUARE BRACKET WITH QUILL 2046 ; Close # Pe RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET WITH QUILL 207D ; Close # Ps SUPERSCRIPT LEFT PARENTHESIS 207E ; Close # Pe SUPERSCRIPT RIGHT PARENTHESIS 208D ; Close # Ps SUBSCRIPT LEFT PARENTHESIS 208E ; Close # Pe SUBSCRIPT RIGHT PARENTHESIS 2308 ; Close # Ps LEFT CEILING 2309 ; Close # Pe RIGHT CEILING 230A ; Close # Ps LEFT FLOOR 230B ; Close # Pe RIGHT FLOOR 2329 ; Close # Ps LEFT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET 232A ; Close # Pe RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET 275B..2760 ; Close # So [6] HEAVY SINGLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT..HEAVY LOW DOUBLE COMMA QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT 2768 ; Close # Ps MEDIUM LEFT PARENTHESIS ORNAMENT 2769 ; Close # Pe MEDIUM RIGHT PARENTHESIS ORNAMENT 276A ; Close # Ps MEDIUM FLATTENED LEFT PARENTHESIS ORNAMENT 276B ; Close # Pe MEDIUM FLATTENED RIGHT PARENTHESIS ORNAMENT 276C ; Close # Ps MEDIUM LEFT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET ORNAMENT 276D ; Close # Pe MEDIUM RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET ORNAMENT 276E ; Close # Ps HEAVY LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT 276F ; Close # Pe HEAVY RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT 2770 ; Close # Ps HEAVY LEFT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET ORNAMENT 2771 ; Close # Pe HEAVY RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE BRACKET ORNAMENT 2772 ; Close # Ps LIGHT LEFT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET ORNAMENT 2773 ; Close # Pe LIGHT RIGHT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET ORNAMENT 2774 ; Close # Ps MEDIUM LEFT CURLY BRACKET ORNAMENT 2775 ; Close # Pe MEDIUM RIGHT CURLY BRACKET ORNAMENT 27C5 ; Close # Ps LEFT S-SHAPED BAG DELIMITER 27C6 ; Close # Pe RIGHT S-SHAPED BAG DELIMITER 27E6 ; Close # Ps MATHEMATICAL LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET 27E7 ; Close # Pe MATHEMATICAL RIGHT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET 27E8 ; Close # Ps MATHEMATICAL LEFT ANGLE BRACKET 27E9 ; Close # Pe MATHEMATICAL RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET 27EA ; Close # Ps MATHEMATICAL LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET 27EB ; Close # Pe MATHEMATICAL RIGHT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET 27EC ; Close # Ps MATHEMATICAL LEFT WHITE TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 27ED ; Close # Pe MATHEMATICAL RIGHT WHITE TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 27EE ; Close # Ps MATHEMATICAL LEFT FLATTENED PARENTHESIS 27EF ; Close # Pe MATHEMATICAL RIGHT FLATTENED PARENTHESIS 2983 ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE CURLY BRACKET 2984 ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE CURLY BRACKET 2985 ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE PARENTHESIS 2986 ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE PARENTHESIS 2987 ; Close # Ps Z NOTATION LEFT IMAGE BRACKET 2988 ; Close # Pe Z NOTATION RIGHT IMAGE BRACKET 2989 ; Close # Ps Z NOTATION LEFT BINDING BRACKET 298A ; Close # Pe Z NOTATION RIGHT BINDING BRACKET 298B ; Close # Ps LEFT SQUARE BRACKET WITH UNDERBAR 298C ; Close # Pe RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET WITH UNDERBAR 298D ; Close # Ps LEFT SQUARE BRACKET WITH TICK IN TOP CORNER 298E ; Close # Pe RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET WITH TICK IN BOTTOM CORNER 298F ; Close # Ps LEFT SQUARE BRACKET WITH TICK IN BOTTOM CORNER 2990 ; Close # Pe RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET WITH TICK IN TOP CORNER 2991 ; Close # Ps LEFT ANGLE BRACKET WITH DOT 2992 ; Close # Pe RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET WITH DOT 2993 ; Close # Ps LEFT ARC LESS-THAN BRACKET 2994 ; Close # Pe RIGHT ARC GREATER-THAN BRACKET 2995 ; Close # Ps DOUBLE LEFT ARC GREATER-THAN BRACKET 2996 ; Close # Pe DOUBLE RIGHT ARC LESS-THAN BRACKET 2997 ; Close # Ps LEFT BLACK TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 2998 ; Close # Pe RIGHT BLACK TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 29D8 ; Close # Ps LEFT WIGGLY FENCE 29D9 ; Close # Pe RIGHT WIGGLY FENCE 29DA ; Close # Ps LEFT DOUBLE WIGGLY FENCE 29DB ; Close # Pe RIGHT DOUBLE WIGGLY FENCE 29FC ; Close # Ps LEFT-POINTING CURVED ANGLE BRACKET 29FD ; Close # Pe RIGHT-POINTING CURVED ANGLE BRACKET 2E00..2E01 ; Close # Po [2] RIGHT ANGLE SUBSTITUTION MARKER..RIGHT ANGLE DOTTED SUBSTITUTION MARKER 2E02 ; Close # Pi LEFT SUBSTITUTION BRACKET 2E03 ; Close # Pf RIGHT SUBSTITUTION BRACKET 2E04 ; Close # Pi LEFT DOTTED SUBSTITUTION BRACKET 2E05 ; Close # Pf RIGHT DOTTED SUBSTITUTION BRACKET 2E06..2E08 ; Close # Po [3] RAISED INTERPOLATION MARKER..DOTTED TRANSPOSITION MARKER 2E09 ; Close # Pi LEFT TRANSPOSITION BRACKET 2E0A ; Close # Pf RIGHT TRANSPOSITION BRACKET 2E0B ; Close # Po RAISED SQUARE 2E0C ; Close # Pi LEFT RAISED OMISSION BRACKET 2E0D ; Close # Pf RIGHT RAISED OMISSION BRACKET 2E1C ; Close # Pi LEFT LOW PARAPHRASE BRACKET 2E1D ; Close # Pf RIGHT LOW PARAPHRASE BRACKET 2E20 ; Close # Pi LEFT VERTICAL BAR WITH QUILL 2E21 ; Close # Pf RIGHT VERTICAL BAR WITH QUILL 2E22 ; Close # Ps TOP LEFT HALF BRACKET 2E23 ; Close # Pe TOP RIGHT HALF BRACKET 2E24 ; Close # Ps BOTTOM LEFT HALF BRACKET 2E25 ; Close # Pe BOTTOM RIGHT HALF BRACKET 2E26 ; Close # Ps LEFT SIDEWAYS U BRACKET 2E27 ; Close # Pe RIGHT SIDEWAYS U BRACKET 2E28 ; Close # Ps LEFT DOUBLE PARENTHESIS 2E29 ; Close # Pe RIGHT DOUBLE PARENTHESIS 2E42 ; Close # Ps DOUBLE LOW-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK 3008 ; Close # Ps LEFT ANGLE BRACKET 3009 ; Close # Pe RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET 300A ; Close # Ps LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET 300B ; Close # Pe RIGHT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET 300C ; Close # Ps LEFT CORNER BRACKET 300D ; Close # Pe RIGHT CORNER BRACKET 300E ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE CORNER BRACKET 300F ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE CORNER BRACKET 3010 ; Close # Ps LEFT BLACK LENTICULAR BRACKET 3011 ; Close # Pe RIGHT BLACK LENTICULAR BRACKET 3014 ; Close # Ps LEFT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 3015 ; Close # Pe RIGHT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 3016 ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE LENTICULAR BRACKET 3017 ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRACKET 3018 ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 3019 ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET 301A ; Close # Ps LEFT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET 301B ; Close # Pe RIGHT WHITE SQUARE BRACKET 301D ; Close # Ps REVERSED DOUBLE PRIME QUOTATION MARK 301E..301F ; Close # Pe [2] DOUBLE PRIME QUOTATION MARK..LOW DOUBLE PRIME QUOTATION MARK FD3E ; Close # Pe ORNATE LEFT PARENTHESIS FD3F ; Close # Ps ORNATE RIGHT PARENTHESIS FE17 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT WHITE LENTICULAR BRACKET FE18 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE LENTICULAR BRAKCET FE35 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT PARENTHESIS FE36 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT PARENTHESIS FE37 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT CURLY BRACKET FE38 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT CURLY BRACKET FE39 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET FE3A ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET FE3B ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT BLACK LENTICULAR BRACKET FE3C ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT BLACK LENTICULAR BRACKET FE3D ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET FE3E ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT DOUBLE ANGLE BRACKET FE3F ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT ANGLE BRACKET FE40 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT ANGLE BRACKET FE41 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT CORNER BRACKET FE42 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT CORNER BRACKET FE43 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT WHITE CORNER BRACKET FE44 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT WHITE CORNER BRACKET FE47 ; Close # Ps PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL LEFT SQUARE BRACKET FE48 ; Close # Pe PRESENTATION FORM FOR VERTICAL RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET FE59 ; Close # Ps SMALL LEFT PARENTHESIS FE5A ; Close # Pe SMALL RIGHT PARENTHESIS FE5B ; Close # Ps SMALL LEFT CURLY BRACKET FE5C ; Close # Pe SMALL RIGHT CURLY BRACKET FE5D ; Close # Ps SMALL LEFT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET FE5E ; Close # Pe SMALL RIGHT TORTOISE SHELL BRACKET FF08 ; Close # Ps FULLWIDTH LEFT PARENTHESIS FF09 ; Close # Pe FULLWIDTH RIGHT PARENTHESIS FF3B ; Close # Ps FULLWIDTH LEFT SQUARE BRACKET FF3D ; Close # Pe FULLWIDTH RIGHT SQUARE BRACKET FF5B ; Close # Ps FULLWIDTH LEFT CURLY BRACKET FF5D ; Close # Pe FULLWIDTH RIGHT CURLY BRACKET FF5F ; Close # Ps FULLWIDTH LEFT WHITE PARENTHESIS FF60 ; Close # Pe FULLWIDTH RIGHT WHITE PARENTHESIS FF62 ; Close # Ps HALFWIDTH LEFT CORNER BRACKET FF63 ; Close # Pe HALFWIDTH RIGHT CORNER BRACKET 1F676..1F678 ; Close # So [3] SANS-SERIF HEAVY DOUBLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT..SANS-SERIF HEAVY LOW DOUBLE COMMA QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT # Total code points: 187
Can you guys give it a rest already? NACK on behalf of my client. Gemini is good because it's not going to change. We don't need italics for "serious writing". Everyone has something different that they NEED very BADLY or else they can't SERIOUSLY use gemini, yak, yak, yak. Stop it. Gemini is good because it's simple.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 8:07 PM Drew DeVault <sir at cmpwn.com> wrote: Stop it. > Y'know, if you hadn't written your message, I wouldn't have written this reply and that would be two less messages on the list. But knock yourself out. Gemini is good because it's simple. > I agree. Some clients are bare-bones, others add all sorts of bells and whistles. That doesn't affect the simplicity of the protocol *or* the format. John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan at ccil.org The penguin geeks is happy / As under the waves they lark The closed-source geeks ain't happy / They sad cause they in the dark But geeks in the dark is lucky / They in for a worser treat One day when the Borg go belly-up / Guess who wind up on the street. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20201112/49cd dd73/attachment.htm>
Oooh! A bike sheeding thread! I know Drew DeVault might complain, but
hey, this list wouldn't be this list unless the majority of messages were
about text formatting (seriously---over half the messages are not about the
protocol at all, but about text formatting).
So with my introduction out of the way, let me nitpick [1] this proposal
with a bunch of corner cases I can already see ...
It was thus said that the Great John Cowan once stated:
> Given that we are *not* going to change the definition of text/gemini, but
^^^^^ shouldn't that be _not_? Or are you going for
strong emphasis here?
> 1. If an underscore appears outside an emphasized text section, and is at
> the beginning of a text line or after the # characters in a header line, or
> is preceded by a whitespace character, then it marks the beginning of an
> emphasized-text section
Pattern wise, it's like:
(start_of_line ?('#'*) | whitespace) '_'
> (rendered as italics or in some other way).
Such as bold, a larger font, a smaller font, or some other way other than
using italics. Okay, got it.
> 2. If an underscore appears inside an emphasized text section, and is at
> the end of a line, or is followed by whitespace, sentence-terminating
> punctuation, or parenthesis- or quotation-terminating punctuation, then it
> marks the end of the emphasized-text section.
I've found that terminating italic sections before sentence-terminating
punctuation can lead to very ugly output. For example:
He asked about _blandit_?
Here, the italic t will run into the trailing question mark, which I feel
looks terrible. That's why I tend to include sentence terminating marks
within the italic section:
He asked about _blandit?_
This is of less concern with periods and commas, since there isn't much of a
difference, stylistic wise, between a normal period and italic period.
It also sounds like you are expecting users to write stuff like
_lorem ipsum dolor sit amet_
or
_lorem_ipsum_dolor_sit_amet_
else, why not just say that once in an emphasized text section, the next
underscore ends it. Much easier to deal with, and a bit easier to deal with
when wrapping text (although I suppose one can add '_' to the list, along
with whitespace and hypens).
> These rules exclude underscores in things like snake_case_variables, while
> supporting most actual uses.
>
> 3. An emphasized-text section ends unconditionally at the end of a line.
Odd, but I can see why you say so, given the nature of parsing gemtext.
But one unaware of that might end up writing:
blah blabh _lorem ipsum dolor
sit amet_ blah blah blah
and wonder why the italicised text is all wrong.
> The attached file specifies all the Unicode whitespace and terminating
> punctuation, from the Unicode Character Database. There are quite a few,
> but you don't even need a regular expression, just a list of the characters.
All 352 of the characters.
For now.
That might be updated at the next Unicode revision.
Got it.
> I hope this is helpful and/or inspirational.
-spc (Unicode is hard! Let's do rocketry!)
[1] Can we still say that term?
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:02 PM Sean Conner <sean at conman.org> wrote: Oooh! A bike sheeding thread! Yup. Let's sheed some bikes together! > So with my introduction out of the way, let me nitpick [1] Yes, you can say that. Head lice do not yet have a pressure group insisting that you call their eggs something more polite. > t> Given that we are *not* going to change the definition of text/gemini, > but > ^^^^^ shouldn't that be _not_? Or are you going for > strong emphasis here? > No, just habit. I write a *lot* of git-flavored Markdown. > I've found that terminating italic sections before sentence-terminating > punctuation can lead to very ugly output. Yes, though that's up to the content author. But this isn't about terminating the italic section; it's about deciding whether an underscore actually does terminate it. See below. > why not just say that once in an emphasized text section, the next > underscore ends it. So that lines like "It is important to understand that _although the standard in C is to use snake_case for variables, C compilers do not support numbers like 123_456_789_." are interpreted correctly. To put it in HTML terms, the first underscore is preceded by whitespace, so it is an <i>, and the last one is followed by terminating punctuation, so it is an </i>. The others, however, don't satisfy either rule 1 or rule 2, so the emphatic text just goes on right through them. > blah blabh _lorem ipsum dolor > sit amet_ blah blah blah > They will quickly find out that that doesn't work. Text/gemini lines are typically used in prose for paragraphs, and italic text doesn't normally cross paragraph boundaries. > That might be updated at the next Unicode revision. > That's true. But as time goes by, the new scripts with script-specific punctuation become fewer and harder to find. Until we join the Galactic Federation, there just aren't many more scripts out there. Newly invented ones tend to use Latin/Greek/Cyrillic/etc. punctuation. > -spc (Unicode is hard! Let's do rocketry!) > You kidding? This is one of the easy bits! All the work has been done for us. We don't even need regular expressions to figure it out, just keep the 352 characters in two arrays. Unless your browser runs on an Arduino, that is practically free. John Cowan http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan cowan at ccil.org I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, http://vrici.lojban.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, LOTR:FOTR -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/attachments/20201112/41d6 7d1f/attachment.htm>
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