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Gemini has existed for a while now but still remains well-mannered, atleast where I've went so far. People here can behave however they want to, but choose to behave nicely. There are no restrictions as to what you can say even on something like Bubble, as far as I'm aware. I guess Gemini just attracts a different kind of people.
May 11 · 1 day ago
🚀 stack [OP] · May 11 at 18:59:
@eddos: I found out that people here found me talking about american politics objectionable, and even moved my post to a separate topic (for easier silencing I suppose). Amusing considering I am explicitly not taking sides, but rather despise all politics and corrupt politicians! But yes, it is possible to self-sensor on subjects that are upsetting to others - my goal is certainly not to upset my neighbors... On the other hand, I don't really want people's opinions suppressed just because they are out of alignment with some particular group.
I do recall clseibold causing quite a stir around here. the reaction from the community was so much so that they ended up leaving both bbs and station (at least I think it was the case), and flairs to be created for such cases on bbs.
so there are *some* controls, for the centralized portions of gemini at least.
I believe the clseibold thing has less to do with any subjectively viewed ‘unfavorable’ interaction or instigation so much as it was more to do with a sort of personal ethical dilemma regarding continuing interaction in tandem with what, as I observed, CL seemed to find as intolerable ‘misconceptions’ or inconsistent ‘contradicting harmful’ sentiments in the community that it was in their interest to not continue their attendance around these parts any longer (albeit, while continuing their own small net efforts).
That said, whether or not I agree with that rhetoric, I wish them all the best. Wanted to address that real quick since I seen the response, thought might as well.
I have my own thoughts on this topic btw which I’ll share later more, but for now in brief I will say:
IDK about referring to persecuted oppressed peoples responding out of desperation given their conditions and underprivileged circumstances as “violent” or implying they need to be controlled via dystopian corporal force, however, with all that being described in hyperbolic satire I’m sure; those conditions in of themselves are definitely the catalyst for a bad situation getting worse, already made bad by the efforts of class and racial divide, cultural and property segregation, gentrification, and marginalization by being prioritized lower than other fiscal, ethnic backgrounds. This is deliberate.
@stack: Yeah, in the Code of Conduct it says that US politics should stay in its relevant subspace. Maybe it's not exactly "silencing." Atleast on Gemini capsules are actually discoverable unlike the WWW where you will keep going to the same 5 or 6 websites even when using a search engine. Gemini's nature makes it harder to silence others I guess, especially if they're hosting their own capsule and not on a centralized server like Bubble.
@eddos I didn't at all mean that I was silenced -- only that the entire US politics topic could be easily muted if someone doesn't want it. In fact they could still see my other posts, which is a heck of a lot better than leaving the bbs or just muting all my posts (which is also an option). It's a good thing.
And really, everyone has the option of just ignoring someone's posts instead of getting all up in arms and insisting they should shut up.
Enshitification — How does it happen? How does a community of generally well-mannered people become a zoo full of vandals that requires hardcore policing, with automatic weapons? You could blame criminals and build higher walls and get bigger guns. But I think it is exactly the cause of enshitification. People inherently want to be a part of their community. We are social animals. And if we are rejected and have no hope, we apply whatever skills we have to express our frustration at damaging...