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[2024-03-23T02:28:17Z] <asimovsh> hey guys [2024-03-23T02:28:36Z] <asimovsh> someone have a build of librsvg? [2024-03-23T06:52:37Z] <sewn> why? [2024-03-23T08:21:30Z] <phinxy> Anyone got Inkscape 1.3 working? It builds but segfault with "__setjmp in /lib/ld-musl". [2024-03-23T09:33:54Z] <sewn> phinxy: flatpak [2024-03-23T13:24:21Z] <asimovsh> sewn: i tried to build hyprland and needed librsvg for hyprcursor depends [2024-03-23T13:24:28Z] <asimovsh> but already solved [2024-03-23T13:24:33Z] <sewn> hyprland yuck [2024-03-23T13:26:51Z] <asimovsh> yeah [2024-03-23T13:26:58Z] <asimovsh> but it looks good [2024-03-23T13:27:17Z] <sewn> hyprland is a whore [2024-03-23T13:27:17Z] <asimovsh> i tried swayfx but it seems buggy with wlroots upstream [2024-03-23T13:27:42Z] <asimovsh> like a whore it give you pleasure in a shit way [2024-03-23T13:27:51Z] <asimovsh> anyway [2024-03-23T13:28:05Z] <asimovsh> if anyone here have a hyprland build it will be nice to test [2024-03-23T13:28:14Z] <asimovsh> i will still make my build [2024-03-23T13:28:31Z] <asimovsh> sewn: what distro are you using right now? [2024-03-23T13:28:34Z] <sewn> hyprland was hard for me to deal with on kiss in the packaging side of things [2024-03-23T13:28:38Z] <sewn> author was very hostile about it [2024-03-23T13:28:49Z] <sewn> so i had to patch hyprland to package it properly [2024-03-23T13:28:49Z] <asimovsh> I know [2024-03-23T13:28:58Z] <sewn> i dont know why people use software made by a shitty author [2024-03-23T13:29:16Z] <sewn> https://codeberg.org/sewn/kiss-repo/src/commit/db07022e5860e8657369bef6fc96960448e2cbef/repo/hyprland [2024-03-23T13:29:16Z] <asimovsh> you have the build? maybe i can handle it in community [2024-03-23T13:29:22Z] <sewn> this is 2 years ago asimovsh [2024-03-23T13:29:28Z] <sewn> not sure you'd want that [2024-03-23T13:29:36Z] <sewn> asimovsh: keep your shitware outside kiss community :D [2024-03-23T13:29:47Z] <asimovsh> just for test [2024-03-23T13:29:59Z] <asimovsh> and maybe some people will like it [2024-03-23T13:30:09Z] <sewn> we are on KISS not arch [2024-03-23T13:30:22Z] <asimovsh> thats right [2024-03-23T13:30:35Z] <asimovsh> what distro are you using right now? [2024-03-23T13:30:44Z] <asimovsh> U said that you are not in kiss anymore [2024-03-23T13:30:57Z] <sewn> alpine [2024-03-23T13:31:03Z] <sewn> best distro by far for me [2024-03-23T13:31:08Z] <asimovsh> why? [2024-03-23T13:31:15Z] <sewn> i like it's design and simplicity [2024-03-23T13:31:31Z] <sewn> and i like my convenience - things work more and i have to worry less about my system [2024-03-23T13:31:55Z] <asimovsh> i like alpine but the system build is a problem [2024-03-23T13:32:10Z] <sewn> abuild is so nice [2024-03-23T13:32:10Z] <asimovsh> binaries force you to use xwayland and stuff [2024-03-23T13:32:20Z] <sewn> and do you happen to know why that is? [2024-03-23T13:32:35Z] <sewn> why they build with full feature support? [2024-03-23T13:32:48Z] <asimovsh> for convenience [2024-03-23T13:32:52Z] <asimovsh> less problem [2024-03-23T13:32:56Z] <sewn> yes [2024-03-23T13:33:01Z] <sewn> its aimed to satisfy everyone [2024-03-23T13:33:05Z] <sewn> and its doing a rather great job [2024-03-23T13:33:07Z] <asimovsh> yeah [2024-03-23T13:33:15Z] <asimovsh> i prefer musl gentoo [2024-03-23T13:33:23Z] <sewn> gentoo is much more bloated than alpine [2024-03-23T13:33:43Z] <asimovsh> the problem with gentoo is just the core utils and the package manager [2024-03-23T13:33:47Z] <sewn> alpine uses apk (C) and abuild (ash), while gentoo just uses python for everything, and the build system in general is badly designed [2024-03-23T13:33:58Z] <sewn> it is really hard to deal with for the user too [2024-03-23T13:34:05Z] <asimovsh> yeah [2024-03-23T13:34:39Z] <asimovsh> but useflags are a good option to customize your system [2024-03-23T13:34:48Z] <asimovsh> thats the good in gentoo [2024-03-23T13:34:58Z] <sewn> the only good thing really yeah [2024-03-23T13:35:13Z] <asimovsh> thats what a like [2024-03-23T13:35:21Z] <asimovsh> maybe i will try alpine some day [2024-03-23T13:35:30Z] <asimovsh> for now kiss is doing great again [2024-03-23T13:35:41Z] <asimovsh> i can customize for what i need [2024-03-23T13:35:56Z] <sewn> i understand [2024-03-23T13:37:30Z] <asimovsh> also van anyone here pull my libtorrent fix? [2024-03-23T13:37:36Z] <asimovsh> in community [2024-03-23T13:38:20Z] <asimovsh> sewn: are you using a wayland compositor in alpine? [2024-03-23T13:38:27Z] <sewn> i am using my fork of dwl [2024-03-23T13:38:58Z] <asimovsh> I thinking in try it [2024-03-23T13:39:01Z] <asimovsh> Is that good? [2024-03-23T13:39:03Z] <sewn> trying dwl? [2024-03-23T13:39:08Z] <asimovsh> Yeah [2024-03-23T13:39:11Z] <sewn> do you like bspwm? [2024-03-23T13:39:35Z] <asimovsh> not so much i like it time ago [2024-03-23T13:39:40Z] <sewn> do you like i3? [2024-03-23T13:39:46Z] <asimovsh> never used [2024-03-23T13:40:10Z] <asimovsh> I liked dwm when i used xorg [2024-03-23T13:40:33Z] <sewn> do you like dwm bar or a fancier bar [2024-03-23T13:41:07Z] <asimovsh> i dont have a need for bar so not a problem [2024-03-23T13:41:14Z] <sewn> ok use dwl [2024-03-23T13:43:58Z] <asimovsh> sewn: are you having problems in foot terminal in alpine? [2024-03-23T13:44:00Z] <sewn> no [2024-03-23T13:44:07Z] <asimovsh> my kiss foot is buggy [2024-03-23T13:44:07Z] <sewn> i like foot(1) [2024-03-23T13:44:13Z] <sewn> what is the issue..? [2024-03-23T13:44:39Z] <asimovsh> Evert time i launch a terminal [2024-03-23T13:44:44Z] <asimovsh> i get 3 lines terminal [2024-03-23T13:45:04Z] <asimovsh> like \n or it made a enter 2 times [2024-03-23T13:45:24Z] <sewn> resize your terminal [2024-03-23T13:45:27Z] <sewn> and observe what happens [2024-03-23T13:45:43Z] <asimovsh> get a new line [2024-03-23T13:45:46Z] <sewn> yep [2024-03-23T13:45:48Z] <sewn> its an ash bug [2024-03-23T13:45:58Z] <sewn> this happens in st as well [2024-03-23T13:46:00Z] <sewn> thats how i know [2024-03-23T13:46:07Z] <asimovsh> alpine solved it? [2024-03-23T13:46:21Z] <sewn> apparently [2024-03-23T13:46:26Z] <sewn> i dont know why but the bug is gone on alpine [2024-03-23T13:46:31Z] <sewn> but it is specific to the shell [2024-03-23T13:46:38Z] <sewn> if you use oksh, mksh, yash the issue is gone [2024-03-23T13:47:19Z] <asimovsh> and about the line breaking in typing? [2024-03-23T13:47:32Z] <sewn> what? [2024-03-23T13:47:36Z] <sewn> this osunds new [2024-03-23T13:49:20Z] <asimovsh> seems that the terminal get a line break even the words are not in the last pixel possible in terminal [2024-03-23T13:50:00Z] <asimovsh> it break a line before the terminal line size maximum [2024-03-23T13:50:58Z] <sewn> hmm never seen that [2024-03-23T13:55:48Z] <asimovsh> heres a sample [2024-03-23T13:56:04Z] <asimovsh> https://0x0.st/Xr7Y.png [2024-03-23T13:56:40Z] <sewn> foot? [2024-03-23T13:56:41Z] <sewn> i don't have this issue [2024-03-23T13:56:53Z] <asimovsh> strange [2024-03-23T13:56:55Z] <sewn> i think its got to do with stuff like termconfig or ncurses [2024-03-23T13:56:59Z] <sewn> ash right? [2024-03-23T13:57:03Z] <asimovsh> ash [2024-03-23T13:59:54Z] <asimovsh> I think is another ash problem [2024-03-23T14:00:02Z] <asimovsh> Seems bash not have this issue [2024-03-23T14:00:07Z] <sewn> interesting [2024-03-23T14:01:22Z] <asimovsh> can you check if alpine ash have this issue too? [2024-03-23T14:01:43Z] <sewn> i checked [2024-03-23T14:01:45Z] <sewn> it doesn't [2024-03-23T14:01:57Z] <asimovsh> strange [2024-03-23T14:02:20Z] <asimovsh> you use foot as default terminal? [2024-03-23T14:04:28Z] <sewn> i do [2024-03-23T14:07:49Z] <asimovsh> i will look in alpine busybox build [2024-03-23T14:07:54Z] <asimovsh> maybe some patch solved it [2024-03-23T14:34:19Z] <thikkl> @asimovsh: if your prompt has escape sequences (like colors) you might have to surround them with \[ and \] so it doesn't count those characters towards the length of text [2024-03-23T14:34:29Z] <sewn> are you on matrix [2024-03-23T14:34:47Z] <asimovsh> me? [2024-03-23T14:34:50Z] <sewn> thikkl [2024-03-23T14:35:12Z] <thikkl> wdym matrix [2024-03-23T14:35:26Z] <sewn> nvm [2024-03-23T14:35:43Z] <asimovsh> thikkl: thats solve one problem [2024-03-23T14:35:55Z] <asimovsh> But the line problem still remains [2024-03-23T14:37:45Z] <thikkl> what does it look like now? Same as before? [2024-03-23T14:37:45Z] <asimovsh> also [2024-03-23T14:38:01Z] <asimovsh> the breaking line in typing solved [2024-03-23T14:38:15Z] <asimovsh> but the new line in terminal resize no [2024-03-23T14:38:44Z] <asimovsh> also looking in alpine build [2024-03-23T14:39:11Z] <asimovsh> they have a patch for this problem and descibred it [2024-03-23T14:39:14Z] <asimovsh> i will try it [2024-03-23T14:39:22Z] <thikkl> ok [2024-03-23T14:45:23Z] <thikkl> @sewn I found out what you meant by matrix [2024-03-23T14:45:23Z] <asimovsh> Bruh [2024-03-23T14:45:29Z] <asimovsh> wtf [2024-03-23T14:45:29Z] <thikkl> I'm not using matrix [2024-03-23T14:46:06Z] <asimovsh> why the fucking patch command in busybox is wrong? [2024-03-23T14:46:16Z] <asimovsh> also solved it [2024-03-23T14:49:05Z] <thikkl> cool [2024-03-23T14:49:20Z] <asimovsh> For christ [2024-03-23T14:49:28Z] <asimovsh> this is a simple patch [2024-03-23T14:49:39Z] <asimovsh> and this problem is been here for years [2024-03-23T14:50:07Z] <asimovsh> thats why i leaved kiss times ago [2024-03-23T14:50:19Z] <asimovsh> community is dead [2024-03-23T14:58:10Z] <sewn> chill [2024-03-23T14:58:25Z] <sewn> we all know kiss is dead [2024-03-23T15:03:39Z] <sewn> LOL WHAT WAIT [2024-03-23T15:04:04Z] <sewn> oh man what that is actually sad [2024-03-23T15:04:08Z] <sewn> asimovsh: you're right [2024-03-23T15:04:20Z] <sewn> thats just [2024-03-23T15:04:20Z] <sewn> wow [2024-03-23T15:04:24Z] <sewn> i dont know what to say [2024-03-23T15:05:44Z] <asimovsh> that patch is from 2023 jan [2024-03-23T15:06:17Z] <asimovsh> and are other several patches from alpine [2024-03-23T15:06:28Z] <asimovsh> saddly [2024-03-23T15:42:45Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: can you accept my pull request in community? [2024-03-23T17:45:50Z] <testuser[m]> asimovsh that command was correct [2024-03-23T17:45:57Z] <testuser[m]> in sources the patches are stored under `patch` [2024-03-23T17:57:56Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: [2024-03-23T17:58:15Z] <asimovsh> the previus command used patch/*.patch [2024-03-23T17:58:29Z] <asimovsh> the patch files are store in patches dir [2024-03-23T17:58:53Z] <asimovsh> and i already builded with the previous command and the patch from my new patch file dont worked [2024-03-23T17:59:07Z] <asimovsh> i have to change the command [2024-03-23T17:59:33Z] <asimovsh> also the style guide use what i merged [2024-03-23T19:07:24Z] <asimovsh> hey guys [2024-03-23T19:07:43Z] <asimovsh> The make style guide is correct? [2024-03-23T19:08:16Z] <asimovsh> Using the function mk () cant install correctly gcompat libs [2024-03-23T19:08:32Z] <asimovsh> I tried but i needed to use other style code [2024-03-23T19:08:54Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: [2024-03-23T20:49:10Z] <kirsty> hello! bit of a weird one but my screen goes black after decompressing/booting kernel? i think it might be drm even though it's enabled? i haven't done firmware because im sure i don't need it but any help is appreciated!! similar to this post just without the firmware bit: [2024-03-23T20:49:11Z] <kirsty> https://www.reddit.com/r/kisslinux/comments/195ya5l/stuck_after_decompressingbooting_linux/ [2024-03-23T21:05:16Z] <asimovsh> i think is related to framebuffer [2024-03-23T21:06:43Z] <asimovsh> kirsty: add the option CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE [2024-03-23T21:06:49Z] <asimovsh> Maybe solve it [2024-03-23T21:07:04Z] <asimovsh> testuser[m]: you know how i can handle codecs in pipewire? [2024-03-23T21:07:16Z] <asimovsh> I wanna know if my ldac codec is working [2024-03-23T21:07:22Z] <asimovsh> I builded with it [2024-03-23T21:07:52Z] <asimovsh> But pipewire needs sbc for bluetooth so i dont know what codec he is using [2024-03-23T21:12:07Z] <kirsty> added and rebuilt but still the same thing happening :< [2024-03-23T21:17:45Z] <asimovsh> it just get black screen? [2024-03-23T21:17:55Z] <asimovsh> Init and go black screen? [2024-03-23T21:19:05Z] <kirsty> just gets stuck yes, i still think it's somehow a drm/framebuffer issue but i've literally enabled everything i can [2024-03-23T22:11:56Z] <riteo> sewn, re "gentoo build flags are a good thing" wait didn't we have a discussion a few years ago about how they were a bad idea? [2024-03-23T22:12:05Z] <riteo> no idea if it was actually you or somebody else [2024-03-23T22:12:17Z] <sewn> they're bad for kiss because its complicated to implement [2024-03-23T22:12:27Z] <sewn> otherwise they are very convenient [2024-03-23T22:12:28Z] <riteo> oh I see [2024-03-23T22:12:40Z] <sewn> testuser[m]: right? [2024-03-23T22:12:55Z] <riteo> I mean, they're variables pretty much [2024-03-23T22:13:22Z] <riteo> can't be too hard to, dunno, store any var named `KISS_FEATURE_*` into a manifest or something [2024-03-23T22:13:54Z] <riteo> not sure though how _reliable_ feature flags might be [2024-03-23T22:14:11Z] <riteo> like, you're maintaining exponentially more packages depending on how many flags you have [2024-03-23T22:14:43Z] <riteo> what is it, 2^nflags? [2024-03-23T22:15:12Z] <riteo> like, if you have 3 flags it's a bit like actually maintaning 8 packages [2024-03-23T22:16:33Z] <riteo> I still wonder if there's some alternative to the fork approach or if perhaps it could be made more conveniente [2024-03-23T22:17:09Z] <riteo> perhaps just some good documentation would help thinking about it (e.g. if you want xwayland support just pass `xwayland=true` or refer to this link for instructions on the available flags`) [2024-03-23T22:22:24Z] <riteo> the most annoying part is updating though. Luckily there's kiss-outdated but I feel like it could be even better still [2024-03-23T22:57:42Z] <niceguy10000> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii [2024-03-23T23:36:38Z] <asimovsh> riteo: i think it could be a good idea for kiss implement something like flags [2024-03-23T23:36:46Z] <asimovsh> more convenience in build [2024-03-23T23:37:25Z] <asimovsh> having to search for everything i want to build is kinda tough [2024-03-23T23:38:00Z] <asimovsh> also anyone here is making the kiss c packaga manager?