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[2022-10-18T00:55:17Z] <sad_plan> wait, I forgot about the issue with /dev not being mounted correctly.. sound works with alsa though. so its likely a sndio issue it seems.
[2022-10-18T02:09:18Z] <testuser[m]> phoebos: yash
[2022-10-18T06:19:53Z] <illiliti> anyone know a cli implementation of keepass that support kdbx format?
[2022-10-18T06:20:01Z] <illiliti> all i found are either too bloated or too fucked
[2022-10-18T06:20:10Z] <illiliti> i don't need anything fancy
[2022-10-18T06:20:15Z] <illiliti> ability to read it is enough
[2022-10-18T07:06:11Z] <vouivre> testuser[m]: I have updated gtk3 and sway and it works fine for me
[2022-10-18T07:58:57Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2022-10-18T07:59:05Z] <wael_> Hi
[2022-10-18T10:01:26Z] <wael_> why does busybox find return 0 return code when a file is not found
[2022-10-18T10:04:39Z] <phoebos> line 128 of https://osdn.net/projects/yash/scm/svn/blobs/head/yash/trunk/input.c
[2022-10-18T10:05:22Z] <phoebos> i couldn't find a POSIX requirement to handle Ctrl+C in read
[2022-10-18T10:05:27Z] <phoebos> Ctrl+D is defined though
[2022-10-18T10:05:33Z] <phoebos> or we can use y/n
[2022-10-18T10:21:09Z] <illiliti> wael_: it is normal behavior because find is recursive
[2022-10-18T10:21:22Z] <illiliti> sbase find return 0 as well
[2022-10-18T10:21:39Z] <wael_> is it possible to make it return non-0 then?
[2022-10-18T10:22:09Z] <illiliti> no
[2022-10-18T10:22:20Z] <illiliti> use [ -e ... ]
[2022-10-18T10:22:33Z] <testuser[m]> phoebos: might as well stick with ctrl + c / d than y/n
[2022-10-18T10:23:04Z] <testuser[m]> illiliti: hi
[2022-10-18T10:23:53Z] <illiliti> hi
[2022-10-18T10:24:13Z] <testuser[m]> phoebos: btw is `: ${TERM:=xterm-256color}` ok to add to .profile? yash needs TERM set for line editing and stuff but eg in TTY it might not be set
[2022-10-18T10:39:01Z] <illiliti> TERM=linux is a better option for tty
[2022-10-18T10:43:08Z] <illiliti> > Ignore interruption and continue reading, because:
[2022-10-18T10:43:16Z] <illiliti> nice yash
[2022-10-18T10:44:21Z] <wael_> yash ignores ctrl c on read?
[2022-10-18T10:44:41Z] <illiliti> seems so
[2022-10-18T10:44:45Z] <illiliti> can't test rn
[2022-10-18T10:44:49Z] <wael_> what the fuck
[2022-10-18T10:52:47Z] <testuser[m]> is there some magic sway/libinput binding like ESC + qdqwdqfegew that messes up input like making mouse scrollwheel act as up and down and the keyboard being remapped or something? I was just spamming esc + some keys in yash line editing and it messed up the input and got fixed when i spammed similarly again
[2022-10-18T10:52:56Z] <testuser[m]> also fixed by replugging
[2022-10-18T10:53:17Z] <testuser[m]> (i checked the bindings outside the shell in firefox)
[2022-10-18T10:53:23Z] <testuser[m]> i mean the behaviour
[2022-10-18T10:59:45Z] <testuser[m]> event15 KEYBOARD_KEY +76.860s *** (-1) released
[2022-10-18T10:59:47Z] <testuser[m]> On every keypress
[2022-10-18T11:03:38Z] <testuser[m]> nvm thats the same even after its fixed
[2022-10-18T11:03:40Z] <testuser[m]> hmm
[2022-10-18T11:04:44Z] <testuser[m]> maybe its just some setting on my keyboard
[2022-10-18T11:10:01Z] <illiliti> it is only reproducible in yash?
[2022-10-18T11:18:44Z] <testuser[m]> globally
[2022-10-18T15:51:52Z] <midfavila> i find yash to be really wonky
[2022-10-18T15:52:06Z] <midfavila> which is unfortunate because it's otherwise a very nice shell
[2022-10-18T15:52:39Z] <midfavila> i remember running into a million and a half problems with it last time i tried running it on kiss
[2022-10-18T16:33:17Z] <testuser[m]> midfavila What else did u encounter? I just had problems with it assuming TERM and the Ctrl + C thing
[2022-10-18T16:33:30Z] <midfavila> for me it would just hang immediately
[2022-10-18T16:34:01Z] <midfavila> when I could get it to run prior to that attempt, it wouldn't read from its included profiles on startup
[2022-10-18T16:34:03Z] <testuser[m]> did u strace it?
[2022-10-18T16:34:11Z] <midfavila> didn't bother
[2022-10-18T16:34:22Z] <midfavila> that was around the time i stopped caring about using a bourne shell for daily use
[2022-10-18T16:34:26Z] <midfavila> i just use rc now
[2022-10-18T16:34:27Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2022-10-18T16:34:30Z] <testuser[m]> wdym by included profiles
[2022-10-18T16:34:54Z] <midfavila> yash includes a number of profiles as part of its codebase. as in, you know, initialization files. defines the prompt and stuff
[2022-10-18T16:34:56Z] <testuser[m]> i just have .yash_profile with `. /etc/profile` so it sources everything in /etc/profile.d and that autoload thing in yashrc
[2022-10-18T16:36:10Z] <testuser[m]> btw any other good shells? I really like yash's auto complete cycle thing
[2022-10-18T16:36:51Z] <midfavila> i wouldn't be able to suggest one
[2022-10-18T16:36:58Z] <midfavila> like i said, i've only used rc for a while now
[2022-10-18T16:37:07Z] <midfavila> generally i'm fond of almquist shells
[2022-10-18T16:37:15Z] <midfavila> dash + a readline library is comfy
[2022-10-18T18:16:31Z] <testuser[m]> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Git-2.38.1-Released
[2022-10-18T18:21:58Z] <wael_> woooo
[2022-10-18T18:42:35Z] <midfavila> man i sure do fucking love using git
[2022-10-18T18:42:48Z] <midfavila> can't wait until i can wipe it from my system
[2022-10-18T18:42:59Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=Ps8jOj7diA0&list=PLD28639E2FFC4B86A&index=0
[2022-10-18T18:43:05Z] <midfavila> ^you guys might find this interesting btw
[2022-10-18T18:43:13Z] <midfavila> stanford class on programming languages
[2022-10-18T18:45:13Z] <testuser[m]> midfavila: but anything can have vulns
[2022-10-18T18:45:50Z] <midfavila> sure but not everything is 829k lines of code
[2022-10-18T18:46:41Z] <midfavila> git is huge and I don't really use it for anything other than cloning or pushing once in a while, and i'd like to not have it and its deps on my system
[2022-10-18T18:46:43Z] * midfavila shrugs
[2022-10-18T18:47:36Z] <testuser[m]> fossil?
[2022-10-18T18:48:28Z] <midfavila> i've looked at it before, seems interesting enough
[2022-10-18T18:49:38Z] <oldtopman> rsync?
[2022-10-18T18:50:01Z] <midfavila> nah. at some point i'm just going to dump tarballs onto my site and call it a day
[2022-10-18T19:48:50Z] <virutalmachineus> what we need is a kernel with 1000 lines of code max and a userspace with 1000 lines of code max.
[2022-10-18T19:49:28Z] <virutalmachineus> not this non sense of billions of lines of code
[2022-10-18T19:57:58Z] <virutalmachineus> <testuser[m]> "midfavila: but anything can have..." <- Computers don't have vulns. The programmer is at fault.
[2022-10-18T19:59:02Z] <midfavila> that's objectively not the case
[2022-10-18T22:49:50Z] <sad_plan> o/
[2022-10-18T23:28:05Z] <virutalmachineus> ?o?
[2022-10-18T23:39:55Z] <midfavila> https://qoiformat.org/
[2022-10-18T23:40:01Z] <midfavila> interesting image format