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[2022-10-09T01:18:14Z] <sad_plan> o/
[2022-10-09T01:56:37Z] <sad_plan> has anyone gotten this on firefox before? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/fix-bookmarks-and-history-will-not-be-functional?as=u&utm_source=inproduct&redirectslug=The+bookmarks+and+history+system+will+not+be+functional&redirectlocale=en-US
[2022-10-09T01:57:28Z] <sad_plan> its caused by a kernel config, but im not sure which one it is
[2022-10-09T02:12:32Z] <wael[m]> Hi
[2022-10-09T02:22:15Z] <sad_plan> hi
[2022-10-09T04:00:53Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2022-10-09T04:00:56Z] <testuser[m]> sad_plan: strace
[2022-10-09T04:46:41Z] <saturn[m]> <sad_plan> "has anyone gotten this on..." <- wow, that's really strange.. from a kernel config?
[2022-10-09T04:55:23Z] <testuser[m]> cuz some syscall is missing
[2022-10-09T05:09:14Z] <saturn[m]> ah
[2022-10-09T05:11:04Z] <wael[m]> hi saturn
[2022-10-09T05:11:48Z] <saturn[m]> hi wael
[2022-10-09T07:09:50Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/repo/issues/121 thoughts on ways to implement this?
[2022-10-09T07:34:48Z] <testuser[m]> sanely*
[2022-10-09T07:46:48Z] <testuser[m]> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221008100935.73706-1-gnoack3000@gmail.com/
[2022-10-09T08:07:49Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss/issues/95
[2022-10-09T10:37:08Z] <wael[m]> pro testuser
[2022-10-09T10:38:02Z] <testuser[m]> What
[2022-10-09T10:38:31Z] <wael[m]> nvm noob testuser
[2022-10-09T10:53:39Z] <phoebos> testuser[m]: no idea why etcsums are reversed
[2022-10-09T10:54:59Z] <testuser[m]> legacy moment
[2022-10-09T10:55:38Z] <testuser[m]> i'm scared to simply unreverse them cuz idk what it was supposed to account for
[2022-10-09T10:55:39Z] <wael[m]> only dylan knows
[2022-10-09T10:55:54Z] <testuser[m]> no tests moment
[2022-10-09T10:55:55Z] <wael[m]> maybe the git blame will tell something
[2022-10-09T10:56:15Z] <testuser[m]> it was part of a larger commit
[2022-10-09T10:56:19Z] <testuser[m]> non-atomic commits moment
[2022-10-09T10:56:54Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss/commit/e62a239fb30967f6e8c19c677a8640bac13e2810
[2022-10-09T10:57:05Z] <testuser[m]> > Remove find/sort/whatever from pkg_etcsums.
[2022-10-09T10:57:49Z] <testuser[m]> it says remove but doesn't explain how reversing substitutes for all those utilities
[2022-10-09T11:00:43Z] <wael[m]> maybe reverse because of stuff like
[2022-10-09T11:00:43Z] <wael[m]> /a/b/c
[2022-10-09T11:00:43Z] <wael[m]> /a/b/
[2022-10-09T11:00:43Z] <wael[m]> /a
[2022-10-09T11:00:50Z] <testuser[m]> what
[2022-10-09T11:03:02Z] <wael[m]> maybe the default output is like... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/6e5924a81378526e68c209098a81c6930efe7519>)
[2022-10-09T11:03:08Z] <wael[m]> try to unreverse it and see what happens
[2022-10-09T11:03:35Z] <testuser[m]> it works fine
[2022-10-09T11:06:41Z] <wael[m]> actually, does it being reversed cause problem anyway
[2022-10-09T11:06:46Z] <wael[m]> or im missing something
[2022-10-09T11:06:55Z] <testuser[m]> https://codeberg.org/kiss-community/kiss/issues/94
[2022-10-09T11:07:08Z] <testuser[m]> the purpose of etcsums is basically broken
[2022-10-09T11:07:08Z] <wael[m]> ah
[2022-10-09T11:07:09Z] <testuser[m]> lol
[2022-10-09T11:07:23Z] <testuser[m]> it only works for pkgs with a single file in /etc
[2022-10-09T11:07:35Z] <wael[m]> wait wtf lmao
[2022-10-09T11:07:39Z] <wael[m]> not for me i had some packages make .new files for many /etc/ files that were changed
[2022-10-09T11:07:42Z] <wael[m]> like the new busybox update
[2022-10-09T11:07:54Z] <testuser[m]> obv .new will work
[2022-10-09T11:07:59Z] <testuser[m]> but removing untouched files doesn't
[2022-10-09T11:09:00Z] <testuser[m]> bruh wtf is tmp_file_pre_pre
[2022-10-09T11:09:19Z] <wael[m]> pre for tmp_file_pre
[2022-10-09T11:09:27Z] <wael[m]> lol funky func name
[2022-10-09T11:24:06Z] <testuser[m]> brujh fixing it fixes iproute2 but not busybox
[2022-10-09T11:28:41Z] <testuser[m]> https://termbin.com/8hhs oh god
[2022-10-09T11:36:18Z] <midfavila> >checking if package is removable
[2022-10-09T11:36:24Z] <midfavila> basic safety checks? in MY package manager?
[2022-10-09T11:36:32Z] <midfavila> i don't think so
[2022-10-09T11:37:16Z] <wael[m]> tar pkg.tar.xz -C /
[2022-10-09T11:37:29Z] <wael[m]> -xzvfjkv
[2022-10-09T12:24:50Z] <sad_plan> o/
[2022-10-09T12:41:30Z] <sad_plan> testuser[m]: http://0x0.st/otMH.txt
[2022-10-09T12:42:54Z] <testuser[m]> sad_plan: strace -f
[2022-10-09T12:44:14Z] <testuser[m]> strace -s 800 -ff firefox
[2022-10-09T12:44:51Z] <sad_plan> how come strace doesnt always exit?
[2022-10-09T12:45:13Z] <testuser[m]> it only exits when the program does
[2022-10-09T12:45:34Z] <sad_plan> hm, ok
[2022-10-09T12:45:58Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/otMN.txt
[2022-10-09T12:46:27Z] <testuser[m]> gzip it bruh
[2022-10-09T12:47:09Z] <testuser[m]> nm
[2022-10-09T12:47:44Z] <testuser[m]> nvm
[2022-10-09T12:51:45Z] <testuser[m]> sad_plan: your db is bad ig, try HOME=/tmp firefox
[2022-10-09T12:52:02Z] <testuser[m]> NS_ERROR_STORAGE_BUSY: Could not open connection to /home/wololo/.mozilla/firefox/bjd9afgc.hardened/xyz.sqlite
[2022-10-09T12:52:10Z] <wael[m]> wolol
[2022-10-09T12:53:51Z] <sad_plan> http://0x0.st/otMM.txt or you want it gzipped?
[2022-10-09T12:55:13Z] <testuser[m]> just do a diff between working and non working kernel
[2022-10-09T12:55:57Z] <sad_plan> sure. ive been using my old one for reference, for things I was unsure about, but ill look more into it
[2022-10-09T12:56:41Z] <testuser[m]> do olddefconfig with both configs on same kernel version
[2022-10-09T12:56:43Z] <testuser[m]> and do diff
[2022-10-09T12:57:32Z] <sad_plan> does that even work when the *new* is linux-lts? and the older config is 6.0?
[2022-10-09T12:57:41Z] <testuser[m]> yeah
[2022-10-09T12:57:45Z] <sad_plan> ok
[2022-10-09T14:55:10Z] <testuser[m]> https://github.com/kiss-community/community/issues/197
[2022-10-09T15:18:12Z] <testuser[m]> Has anyone encountered firefox randomly exiting lately? Happens very rarely tho -- no logs cuz I launch from bemenu
[2022-10-09T15:20:05Z] <wael[m]> no
[2022-10-09T15:20:05Z] <wael[m]> log Firefox then
[2022-10-09T15:20:32Z] <wael[m]> is it when you suspend or completely random
[2022-10-09T15:20:45Z] <testuser[m]> I remember that I have to set up log then i forget
[2022-10-09T15:20:54Z] <wael[m]> now you cannot forget
[2022-10-09T15:21:03Z] <testuser[m]> Like it happened when I was loading shithub api documentation
[2022-10-09T15:21:23Z] <testuser[m]> And when I right clicked and "save link as ..." And right clicked again as it was downloading in bg
[2022-10-09T15:21:54Z] <wael[m]> yeah you should log it
[2022-10-09T15:21:56Z] <wael[m]> 100%%
[2022-10-09T15:22:15Z] <testuser[m]> It happened after like 1-2 weeks
[2022-10-09T15:22:19Z] <testuser[m]> so bad
[2022-10-09T15:23:03Z] <wael[m]> so good
[2022-10-09T16:57:05Z] <rohan> yo guys
[2022-10-09T16:57:36Z] <rohan> can i install some packages with flatpak?
[2022-10-09T16:57:40Z] <rohan> like libreoffice
[2022-10-09T16:57:44Z] <rohan> or gimp
[2022-10-09T16:57:44Z] <wael[m]> Yes
[2022-10-09T16:57:51Z] <rohan> just for god sakes
[2022-10-09T16:57:58Z] <wael[m]> just dont forget --user and flatpak remote-add --if-not-exists flathub https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
[2022-10-09T16:58:08Z] <rohan> is steam working?
[2022-10-09T16:58:24Z] <wael[m]>
[2022-10-09T16:58:24Z] <wael[m]> absolutely
[2022-10-09T16:58:44Z] <rohan> so i can run steam in kiss linux?
[2022-10-09T16:58:48Z] <wael[m]> i used to maintain my own multilibs kiss for steam but switched to flatpak cuz why not
[2022-10-09T16:58:49Z] <wael[m]> works pretty well
[2022-10-09T16:58:56Z] <wael[m]> with flatpak yes
[2022-10-09T16:59:10Z] <testuser[m]> libreoffice works but u have to install dbus on KISS
[2022-10-09T16:59:15Z] <testuser[m]> dbus-launch flatpak
[2022-10-09T16:59:21Z] <wael[m]> wait what
[2022-10-09T16:59:23Z] <testuser[m]> it's not actually used tho
[2022-10-09T16:59:28Z] <testuser[m]> U can probably make a dummy socket
[2022-10-09T16:59:41Z] <rohan> and steam?
[2022-10-09T16:59:48Z] <rohan> need something?
[2022-10-09T16:59:51Z] <testuser[m]> wael[m]: It refuses to start without connecting but works fine without peebus functionality
[2022-10-09T16:59:59Z] <testuser[m]> steam might need dbus too
[2022-10-09T17:00:01Z] <testuser[m]> Idk
[2022-10-09T17:00:13Z] <wael[m]> well i use dbus already so i cant tell
[2022-10-09T17:00:25Z] <wael[m]> might as well try
[2022-10-09T17:00:27Z] <wael[m]> ,withoutdbus
[2022-10-09T17:08:51Z] <wael[m]> is there any shell in general that supports nested substitution? or do i have to use temporary variables
[2022-10-09T17:16:17Z] <testuser[m]> What
[2022-10-09T17:16:53Z] <wael[m]> echo ${${PWD}}
[2022-10-09T17:22:40Z] <wael[m]> nvm ill just switch to using yash shell
[2022-10-09T17:22:48Z] <phoebos> why would you want to dereference /home/x/y or something
[2022-10-09T17:22:57Z] <wael[m]> it was an example
[2022-10-09T17:23:17Z] <phoebos> something like ${x%$y} would be useful though
[2022-10-09T17:23:34Z] <wael[m]> my use case for this feature is ${{?#0}:+$?\ }
[2022-10-09T17:24:47Z] <phoebos> $? is never unset
[2022-10-09T17:24:58Z] <phoebos> use [ or case
[2022-10-09T17:25:04Z] <wael[m]> which doesnt work for my use case
[2022-10-09T17:25:10Z] <phoebos> which is
[2022-10-09T17:25:14Z] <wael[m]> [ overrides $?
[2022-10-09T17:25:19Z] <wael[m]> having return code in the prompt
[2022-10-09T17:26:39Z] <phoebos> case $? in 0) ;; *) echo $? ;; esac
[2022-10-09T17:28:25Z] <wael[m]> nvm that actually works
[2022-10-09T17:28:26Z] <wael[m]> thanks
[2022-10-09T17:28:37Z] <wael[m]> though yash's autocomplete features are a bit tempting
[2022-10-09T19:42:12Z] <sad_plan> I figured it out though. CONFIG_FILE_LOCKING seems to have been the culprit