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[2022-09-10T04:11:40Z] <testuser[m]12> Hi
[2022-09-10T04:23:51Z] <ioraff> hi
[2022-09-10T05:51:13Z] <wael[m]> Hi
[2022-09-10T09:29:41Z] <illiliti> noocsharp: wayclip Makefile isn't posix despite claiming so
[2022-09-10T09:30:09Z] <illiliti> https://illiliti.pastes.sh/1662802069594013603
[2022-09-10T09:30:20Z] <illiliti> this patch fixes compatibility with bmake and smake, but not pdpmake
[2022-09-10T09:30:53Z] <illiliti> cuz pdpmake is more stricter than these two
[2022-09-10T09:31:30Z] <illiliti> it prohibit using '-' in target names
[2022-09-10T09:32:08Z] <illiliti> i can send patch to ML if you like
[2022-09-10T09:32:16Z] <illiliti> when i get home
[2022-09-10T11:40:12Z] <wael[m]> a
[2022-09-10T11:40:17Z] <testuser[m]12> lol
[2022-09-10T13:33:29Z] <macslash1[m]> Hiii
[2022-09-10T14:29:58Z] <testuser[m]12> illiliti: I think /lib and /usr/lib are pretty much guaranteed to be present in dynlink search path on any system -- so adding ignoring rpath of these 2 values should cover most of the cases, and others like lib32 lib64 or x86*linux* or whatever can be treated as edge cases that we can't handle
[2022-09-10T14:30:08Z] <testuser[m]12> https://github.com/wbx-github/uclibc-ng/blob/master/ldso/ldso/dl-elf.c#L337-L338
[2022-09-10T14:30:09Z] <testuser[m]12> https://github.com/bminor/musl/blob/master/ldso/dynlink.c#L1118
[2022-09-10T14:33:23Z] <illiliti> it's not edge cases
[2022-09-10T14:33:43Z] <illiliti> it's quite common cases
[2022-09-10T14:38:19Z] <testuser[m]12> https://www.unix.com/man-page/freebsd/1/ld.so/
[2022-09-10T14:38:32Z] <testuser[m]12> > The /lib and /usr/lib directories
[2022-09-10T14:45:06Z] <illiliti> glibc has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
[2022-09-10T14:45:13Z] <illiliti> illumos/solaris has /usr/lib/{64,32}
[2022-09-10T14:45:22Z] <illiliti> also /usr/ccs/lib
[2022-09-10T14:45:47Z] <illiliti> and /usr/lib/<arch>
[2022-09-10T14:46:12Z] <illiliti> e.g /usr/lib/amd64
[2022-09-10T14:49:04Z] <testuser[m]12> https://github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/libexec/ld.so/library_subr.c#L42 netbsd and openbsd only have /usr/lib but that's just cuz /lib doesn't even exist
[2022-09-10T14:49:08Z] <testuser[m]12> https://www.netbsd.org/docs/pkgsrc/files.html
[2022-09-10T14:49:13Z] <testuser[m]12> https://man.openbsd.org/hier
[2022-09-10T14:58:36Z] <illiliti> if hardcoding something non-portable is the only option, then better off resorting to hacks
[2022-09-10T14:59:10Z] <illiliti> note that kiss doesn't assume /usr
[2022-09-10T14:59:21Z] <illiliti> hardcoding /usr/lib would make it so
[2022-09-10T14:59:45Z] <illiliti> can we get this path at runtime?
[2022-09-10T14:59:57Z] <illiliti> you said something about INTERP before
[2022-09-10T15:11:10Z] <illiliti> actually i feel this is wrong direction towards proper fix
[2022-09-10T15:12:14Z] <illiliti> this is still a fix yeah, but it isn't good
[2022-09-10T15:14:25Z] <illiliti> i'll try to find some time to fully dive into it
[2022-09-10T15:14:38Z] <illiliti> too busy rn tbh
[2022-09-10T19:43:36Z] <noocsharp> illiliti: send to ml or me directly, either works
[2022-09-10T19:44:02Z] <noocsharp> i'll make a new release too
[2022-09-10T22:20:42Z] <rohan> yo guys
[2022-09-10T22:20:57Z] <rohan> someone know a solution to use arduino on kiss?
[2022-09-10T22:25:16Z] <phinxy> avr-gcc?
[2022-09-10T22:26:28Z] <phinxy> avr-gcc is available for Alpine at least.