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[2022-07-26T07:28:13Z] <testuser[m]12> Hi
[2022-07-26T07:44:23Z] <Ogromny> Hi
[2022-07-26T11:30:36Z] <Ogromny> Does any of you use pipewire ?
[2022-07-26T11:31:11Z] <Ogromny> pw doesn't detect any devices/sinks... 
[2022-07-26T11:31:17Z] <Ogromny> Alsa itself works fine tho
[2022-07-26T11:33:19Z] <testuser[m]12> Logs
[2022-07-26T11:38:43Z] <Ogromny> Hum ty
[2022-07-26T11:50:58Z] <wael[m]> is pulseaudio ( libpulse ) required for Firefox to build with pulseaudio support?
[2022-07-26T12:07:20Z] <testuser[m]12> Why do u need pulse
[2022-07-26T12:08:48Z] <wael[m]> I need Firefox to build with pulse support?
[2022-07-26T12:09:05Z] <wael[m]> I want to try out a program called apulse
[2022-07-26T12:09:19Z] <wael[m]> if that doesn't work I will have to either live without using the microphone or use pulseaudio/pipewire
[2022-07-26T12:11:13Z] <testuser[m]12> u don't need pulse for anything unless some program specifically needs it
[2022-07-26T12:11:21Z] <testuser[m]12> U can just use pipewire and set it's config so that all alsa stuff goes through it
[2022-07-26T12:11:32Z] <testuser[m]12> I've used mic with it
[2022-07-26T12:13:21Z] <wael[m]> testuser[m]12: on Firefox??
[2022-07-26T12:13:25Z] <testuser[m]12> Yeah
[2022-07-26T12:13:26Z] <wael[m]> It doesn't work for me at all
[2022-07-26T12:13:32Z] <wael[m]> Teach me your ways
[2022-07-26T12:13:34Z] <testuser[m]12> How did u set it up
[2022-07-26T12:13:43Z] <wael[m]> alsa?
[2022-07-26T12:14:00Z] <testuser[m]12> Is ur mic detected outside ff
[2022-07-26T12:14:06Z] <wael[m]> yes
[2022-07-26T12:14:15Z] <wael[m]> arecord can see it
[2022-07-26T12:24:27Z] <testuser[m]12> What happens when you click allow on the prompt in ff
[2022-07-26T12:26:57Z] <wael[m]> testuser[m]12: I click once and there is no input
[2022-07-26T12:27:30Z] <wael[m]> Firefox doesn't receive any input from alsa
[2022-07-26T12:27:30Z] <wael[m]> it was literally developed that way how does alsa mic work for you
[2022-07-26T12:28:35Z] <testuser[m]12> Hmm
[2022-07-26T12:30:43Z] <testuser[m]12> Not sure if it was firefox or chromium, but mic has surely worked for me in the past
[2022-07-26T12:30:50Z] <testuser[m]12> Without poopaudio
[2022-07-26T12:31:08Z] <testuser[m]12> Can't check rn
[2022-07-26T12:31:24Z] <wael[m]> oh dman I was about to ask
[2022-07-26T12:31:24Z] <wael[m]> chromium has working alsa mic tho
[2022-07-26T12:33:29Z] <wael[m]> <wael[m]> "is pulseaudio ( libpulse..." <- soooo is this true or not
[2022-07-26T12:33:56Z] <testuser[m]12> Maybe
[2022-07-26T12:33:58Z] <testuser[m]12> Idk if it dlopens
[2022-07-26T12:34:19Z] <testuser[m]12> U need pulse anyway if you're gonna use that option
[2022-07-26T12:38:06Z] <wael[m]> one of pulses depends is libsndfile
[2022-07-26T12:38:09Z] <wael[m]> where is that
[2022-07-26T12:39:20Z] <testuser[m]12> https://codeberg.org/git-bruh/kiss-repo/src/branch/master/abandoned/libsndfile
[2022-07-26T12:39:47Z] <wael[m]> why isn't that in kiss community repo?
[2022-07-26T12:40:11Z] <testuser[m]12> https://github.com/gkisslinux/kiss-bloat/tree/master/community/pulseaudio
[2022-07-26T12:40:15Z] <testuser[m]12> Cuz nothing needs it
[2022-07-26T12:40:24Z] <wael[m]> also why do you use codeberg? just curious
[2022-07-26T12:41:03Z] <testuser[m]12> I don't like shithub
[2022-07-26T12:41:28Z] <testuser[m]12> https://codeberg.org/git-bruh/kiss-repo/src/branch/master/abandoned/alsa-plugins idk why this exists but u might need it , don't remember
[2022-07-26T12:41:34Z] <wael[m]> yes I know github is shit but why did toy switch
[2022-07-26T12:41:38Z] <wael[m]> testuser[m]12: for wut
[2022-07-26T12:42:18Z] <testuser[m]12> Oh i think it was for making alsa send stuff to pulse
[2022-07-26T12:42:27Z] <testuser[m]12> "$1/etc/alsa/conf.d/99-pulseaudio-default.conf.example" 
[2022-07-26T12:42:29Z] <wael[m]> oh ok
[2022-07-26T12:49:20Z] <sad_plan> the posix patch for go package, doesnt apply. I was going to @ dylin, but hes not here it seems, so that wouldnt realy do anything
[2022-07-26T12:49:55Z] <sad_plan> it does apply on 1.17.8, which was the previous release which we used, but not on the current one.
[2022-07-26T12:50:22Z] <sad_plan> testuser[m]: do you want me to create a PR for it, or an issue, or should someone else fix it?
[2022-07-26T12:50:38Z] <wael[m]> sad_plan: Doesn't apply or doesn't work
[2022-07-26T12:50:46Z] <sad_plan> doesnt apply
[2022-07-26T12:50:51Z] <wael[m]> If it doesn't apply simply update the patch and open a PR maybe
[2022-07-26T12:51:25Z] <testuser[m]12> sad_plan: make pr
[2022-07-26T12:51:27Z] <sad_plan> I was thinking that, but Im not the maintainer for go. Dylin is
[2022-07-26T12:51:32Z] <sad_plan> sure thing
[2022-07-26T12:53:06Z] <wael[m]>  0:07.18 checking MOZ_DBUS_LIBS... -ldbus-1... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/090044bec95add1680c7cc383c5c6a1d2b7763a0)
[2022-07-26T12:53:16Z] <wael[m]> i wish it was possible to do monospace in matrix but sadly cant
[2022-07-26T12:53:31Z] <wael[m]> firefox is failing to compile with dbus even tho dbus pkg installed
[2022-07-26T12:56:49Z] <testuser[m]12> wael[m]: 3 backticks
[2022-07-26T12:57:06Z] <testuser[m]12> wael[m]: it says dbus-glib that's some other thing, why are u using dbus ?
[2022-07-26T12:57:10Z] <testuser[m]12> Pulse with ff shouldnt need dbus
[2022-07-26T12:57:32Z] <wael[m]> testuser[m]12: just wanted to build it with dbus support because why not, mainly for notifications 
[2022-07-26T12:57:44Z] <wael[m]> as pulse does need dbus and i have no real choice
[2022-07-26T12:57:49Z] <wael[m]> ill disable it for now
[2022-07-26T12:58:43Z] <testuser[m]12> https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-packages/blob/packages/dbus-glib/trunk/PKGBUILD
[2022-07-26T12:58:44Z] <testuser[m]12> Just package this thing if u need dbus
[2022-07-26T12:59:45Z] <wael[m]> I'll package it once I learn I need pulse -> I  need dbus
[2022-07-26T13:00:11Z] <wael[m]> ```hello I'm monospace```
[2022-07-26T13:00:29Z] <wael[m]> Oh this is IRC channep
[2022-07-26T13:00:30Z] <testuser[m]12> newline before and after
[2022-07-26T13:00:40Z] <testuser[m]12> For single line use single backtic
[2022-07-26T13:00:40Z] <wael[m]> ```
[2022-07-26T13:00:40Z] <wael[m]> oh nvm
[2022-07-26T13:00:40Z] <wael[m]> ```
[2022-07-26T13:00:44Z] <wael[m]> bru
[2022-07-26T13:00:47Z] <testuser[m]12> u on phone?
[2022-07-26T13:00:51Z] <wael[m]> yes
[2022-07-26T13:00:52Z] <testuser[m]12>  /markdown on
[2022-07-26T13:01:01Z] <wael[m]> pc test test
[2022-07-26T13:01:17Z] <wael[m]> `test test`
[2022-07-26T13:01:20Z] <wael[m]> okay ty
[2022-07-26T13:01:39Z] <testuser[m]12> Btw don't send multi line messages on matrix (or even replies) cuz they create multiple msgs on irc
[2022-07-26T13:03:26Z] <wael[m]> testuser[m]12: yeah i like to send many messages everywhere, can't help it sadly
[2022-07-26T13:03:26Z] <wael[m]> will try to tho
[2022-07-26T13:46:09Z] <sad_plan> done https://github.com/kiss-community/community/pull/1175 
[2022-07-26T13:56:53Z] <wael[m]> testuser: apulse is working, i can use mic using `apulse firefox` to make firefox think i am using pulse but i am not
[2022-07-26T13:57:22Z] <Ogromny> is it possible to not use shitwire for screensharing on wayland ?
[2022-07-26T14:22:31Z] <testuser[m]12> Ogromny: wf-recorder v4l2 but no audio
[2022-07-26T14:35:06Z] <Ogromny> :(
[2022-07-26T15:08:39Z] <illiliti> does anyone know pastebin service which work over ssh?
[2022-07-26T15:08:52Z] <illiliti> preferably with ipv6
[2022-07-26T15:38:28Z] <noocsharp> get a vps and sftp
[2022-07-26T15:46:19Z] <mwnqm> phoebos: what about merging your package (terminus-font) and mine (terminus-font-otb)?
[2022-07-26T15:52:20Z] <mwnqm> All you have to do is change the `build` and create a `post-install`
[2022-07-26T15:55:41Z] <phoebos> terminus-font isn't mine, my patch was only merged because aaron's been away for a while and it was X related
[2022-07-26T15:58:38Z] <mwnqm> Ok
[2022-07-26T15:58:52Z] <mwnqm> I will create PR
[2022-07-26T16:02:47Z] <illiliti> i can't get good vps noocsharp
[2022-07-26T16:06:01Z] <phoebos> because of sanctions?
[2022-07-26T16:06:31Z] <illiliti> yep
[2022-07-26T16:06:57Z] <illiliti> and local vps providers suck and full of spyware shit
[2022-07-26T16:07:34Z] <phoebos> damn
[2022-07-26T16:08:04Z] <phoebos> what about a tilde server
[2022-07-26T16:08:44Z] <wael[m]> Vultr?
[2022-07-26T16:11:56Z] <testuser[m]12> Why are vps providers sanctioned 
[2022-07-26T16:11:57Z] <testuser[m]12> Bruh
[2022-07-26T16:13:16Z] <illiliti> yeah tilde is not bad option i think. i have account on dimension.sh, which i'll probably use
[2022-07-26T16:13:55Z] <phoebos> nice
[2022-07-26T16:14:06Z] <illiliti> vps providers aren't sanctioned, payment methods are
[2022-07-26T16:14:25Z] <testuser[m]12> Shitcoins?
[2022-07-26T16:14:29Z] <testuser[m]12> Njalla
[2022-07-26T16:14:39Z] <sad_plan> I was going to suggest that aswell ^
[2022-07-26T16:15:07Z] <illiliti> i'm done with shitcoins
[2022-07-26T16:16:55Z] <illiliti> paying fee that is more than actual price is too much
[2022-07-26T17:13:13Z] <testuser[m]12> illiliti: why doesn't ur isp have ipv4
[2022-07-26T17:15:40Z] <testuser[m]12> Oracle has a free vps but u need to enter cc, if you have close friends outside then maybe u could use it
[2022-07-26T17:15:58Z] <testuser[m]12> I tried it once but it just charged 1$ on my card and the verification failed lol
[2022-07-26T17:38:37Z] <Ogromny> @illiliti ты из Россия ?
[2022-07-26T18:06:15Z] <illiliti> testuser[m]12: my isp have ipv4 and ipv6. fyi my isp is one of the very few which support ipv6 natively
[2022-07-26T18:06:26Z] <illiliti> i'm looking for services that support ipv6 just in principle
[2022-07-26T18:06:39Z] <illiliti> and i plan to move away from services/websites that don't support it
[2022-07-26T18:07:18Z] <illiliti> and i don't have close friends that i can trust things like that
[2022-07-26T18:08:59Z] <illiliti> iirc oracle doesn't operate here anymore. not sure how it affected their vps services
[2022-07-26T18:13:00Z] <illiliti> Ogromny: +
[2022-07-26T21:49:58Z] <rohan> yo guys
[2022-07-26T21:50:11Z] <rohan> some solution to connect bluetooth in kiss?
[2022-07-26T22:07:39Z] <illiliti> unless you have dbus installed there is no solution
[2022-07-26T22:10:46Z] * illiliti wondering what android uses for bluetooth stuff
[2022-07-26T22:12:06Z] <ioraff> illiliti: my pgo patch got merged
[2022-07-26T22:12:24Z] <stjohn> I wound up with dbus anyway because the LibreOffice Flatpak requires it to launch and that's a fairly important office tool for me. It's a pain in the hole, but at least I don't have to run the whole service.
[2022-07-26T22:13:12Z] <illiliti> great ioraff
[2022-07-26T22:27:39Z] <illiliti> stjohn: what requires dbus? libreoffice or flatpack?
[2022-07-26T22:31:37Z] <stjohn> illiliti: It's specifically LibreOffice. Flatpak installs and runs other paks fine without dbus, but some paks require dbus to launch.
[2022-07-26T22:33:15Z] <illiliti> that's truly sucks
[2022-07-26T22:35:22Z] <illiliti> check out dylan's libdbus-stub, perhaps it can help
[2022-07-26T22:36:34Z] <illiliti> but guess libreoffice directly connects to dbus socket, which makes libdbus-stub useless
[2022-07-26T22:41:26Z] <illiliti> why it needs dbus btw?
[2022-07-26T22:44:50Z] <stjohn> illiliti: Ooh, thanks for the tip, I wasn't aware of libdbus-stub. I can look into it, but you might be right, the stub might not be enough. I'm currently launching LibreOffice using dbus-launch, which fixes the problem.
[2022-07-26T22:45:23Z] <stjohn> As for why it needs dbus, beats the hell out of me. It can be compiled without dbus support, but the whole reason I use the Flatpak is because I don't want to make a KISS package for it.
[2022-07-26T22:48:17Z] <stjohn> To be honest I don't know why LibreOffice is as big as it is. I suppose it's just so expansive it takes up the whole universe.
[2022-07-26T22:56:31Z] <illiliti> cuz nobody cares. nobody being paid to care, to be exact.
[2022-07-26T22:57:25Z] <illiliti> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/libreoffice/APKBUILD#n15
[2022-07-26T22:57:49Z] <illiliti> this is beyond sanity
[2022-07-26T22:59:36Z] <stjohn> Yep, life's too short for seventy million dependencies. It would be nice if I could just compile the bits of it I use. I only ever use Writer, not the spreadsheets or database or powerpoint.
[2022-07-26T23:03:36Z] <stjohn> Or the satellite control system or the artificial intelligence or the nuclear launch codes... :P
[2022-07-26T23:05:20Z] <illiliti> xd