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[2021-08-21T00:42:09Z] <acheam> Your computer already runs minix
[2021-08-21T00:42:19Z] <acheam> Assuming its Intel
[2021-08-21T00:42:31Z] <acheam> (At least thats what my intel tells me)
[2021-08-21T00:42:44Z] <acheam> ba dum tss
[2021-08-21T01:03:14Z] <_phoebos> wahey pounce is working
[2021-08-21T01:03:18Z] <_phoebos> methinks
[2021-08-21T01:22:57Z] <phoebos> sorry about the spamming
[2021-08-21T01:23:07Z] <phoebos> but it werks now!
[2021-08-21T01:33:11Z] <akspecs> phoebos: why `ew GNU'
[2021-08-21T01:55:52Z] <GalaxyNova> akspecs: GPL and general unixy ness
[2021-08-21T02:01:46Z] <riteo> hiiiii!
[2021-08-21T02:22:27Z] <riteo> oof I already have to go but I should come soon(tm). Cya lateer!
[2021-08-21T03:41:20Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2021-08-21T03:42:12Z] <testuser[m]> kyxor: its not needed for wayland 
[2021-08-21T03:42:21Z] <testuser[m]> You're on X right ?
[2021-08-21T03:57:34Z] <kyxor> testuser[m]: Hi! yep x11
[2021-08-21T03:59:34Z] <kyxor> What do I need to change to get them back, I mean I could just make symlinks to /lib folder in the package build script, but I am not sure how it worked before 92 version
[2021-08-21T04:04:51Z] <acheam> Git diff?
[2021-08-21T04:09:00Z] <testuser[m]> It needs it's own libgles stuff
[2021-08-21T04:09:14Z] <testuser[m]> yeah just check the 2nd latest diff of chromium package
[2021-08-21T04:15:22Z] <kyxor> acheam: that's not so simple to spot or tell though, expicially when the git diff is like 10 terminal screens long. Thanks testuser, I'll take a look at older commits more closely
[2021-08-21T04:15:41Z] <testuser[m]> Just check diff of the build file
[2021-08-21T04:16:03Z] <testuser[m]> im pretty sure u just need the install lines back, libglesv2* will be built
[2021-08-21T04:16:14Z] <testuser[m]> No need to change flag
[2021-08-21T04:22:56Z] <necromansy> hello lads
[2021-08-21T04:22:58Z] <kyxor> ok yep, found it. I would of never thought that those not needed on wayland
[2021-08-21T04:24:22Z] <testuser[m]> necromansy: hi
[2021-08-21T04:25:41Z] <kyxor> testuser[m]: is there a way to disable gpu support completely in chrome, for example if so, I think that might reduce compile times quite a lot
[2021-08-21T04:27:44Z] <kyxor> cause for my use cases chromium doing everything on cpu is oddly more beneficial, as I get frequent gpu crashes anyway from it
[2021-08-21T04:28:48Z] <testuser[m]> I don't think so, but run `gn args out/Release --list | grep '^.*_gpu'`
[2021-08-21T04:28:59Z] <testuser[m]> I forgot the exact gn args command but you can find it by --help
[2021-08-21T04:30:41Z] <kyxor> ok!
[2021-08-21T04:56:00Z] <riteo> hiii! I'm back!
[2021-08-21T05:16:05Z] <kyxor> kcd giflib
[2021-08-21T05:16:17Z] <kyxor> oopps wrong term :) 
[2021-08-21T05:29:39Z] <testuser[m]> riteo: Hi
[2021-08-21T05:35:12Z] <kyxor> dylan dropped rsync from his repo so now crosstool-ng/ won't build
[2021-08-21T05:37:49Z] <riteo> oh talking about networking I just recalled noticing that dropbear wasn't the default for kiss linux, does anyone know why's that?
[2021-08-21T05:38:18Z] <riteo> it looks really similar to busybox under some aspects and I was really wondering why OpenSSH was the default.
[2021-08-21T05:38:27Z] <riteo> (similar in phylosophy)
[2021-08-21T05:44:40Z] <kyxor> oh no! not hello world, how could ya https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/commit/3faa0d056a107b05208a0a2191f32f9612d4eff0
[2021-08-21T05:49:14Z] <riteo> these minimalists smh my head
[2021-08-21T12:42:05Z] <acheam> riteo: the only "default" packages in KISS are the ones in repo/core IMO
[2021-08-21T12:54:03Z] <riteo> acheam: yes and there is only openssh
[2021-08-21T12:54:22Z] <acheam> Thats in repo/extra
[2021-08-21T12:54:29Z] <riteo> wait really
[2021-08-21T12:54:33Z] <riteo> kiss-find didn't find it
[2021-08-21T12:54:53Z] <riteo> yeah it isn't there
[2021-08-21T12:55:30Z] <acheam> No, openssh is in repo/extra, which by my definition doesnt make it a default package
[2021-08-21T12:55:33Z] <acheam> But its semantics
[2021-08-21T12:55:42Z] <riteo> oooh you mean that, sorry
[2021-08-21T12:56:08Z] <acheam> It doesnt really matter
[2021-08-21T12:56:18Z] <riteo> still, I find it weird that there's only openssh when dropbear is more light, small and embedded friendly, much like busybox
[2021-08-21T12:56:21Z] <acheam> Personally, I could never get dropbear to work how I wanted
[2021-08-21T12:56:47Z] <riteo> I see
[2021-08-21T12:56:53Z] <acheam> Openssh isnt that bloated, and has other helpful utilities that dropbear doesnt include like ssh-keygen and ssh-copy-id
[2021-08-21T12:57:06Z] <riteo> oh
[2021-08-21T12:57:14Z] <riteo> how does one generate an ssh key without ssh-keygen?
[2021-08-21T12:57:30Z] <riteo> openssl?
[2021-08-21T12:57:34Z] <testuser[m]> by hand
[2021-08-21T12:58:10Z] <acheam> Nvm it has "dropbearkey"
[2021-08-21T12:58:50Z] <acheam> And dropbearconvert
[2021-08-21T12:58:51Z] <riteo> brb reading the ed25519 spec to generate my key with pen and paper
[2021-08-21T12:58:55Z] <riteo> oh cool
[2021-08-21T12:59:14Z] <riteo> well, there are some people like me who just do basic ssh authentication and nothing more
[2021-08-21T12:59:24Z] <riteo> that's another thing in my list of things to do/push
[2021-08-21T12:59:32Z] <acheam> Use keys my guy
[2021-08-21T12:59:43Z] <riteo> wait don't keys work with ssh
[2021-08-21T12:59:47Z] <riteo> I mean
[2021-08-21T12:59:49Z] <riteo> dropbear
[2021-08-21T12:59:56Z] <acheam> Wait can you use dropbear as an ssh client?
[2021-08-21T13:00:04Z] <riteo> I thought that was the point of it
[2021-08-21T13:00:09Z] <acheam> Oh well thats a dealbeaker for me
[2021-08-21T13:00:12Z] <riteo> I didn't know you could use it as a server lol
[2021-08-21T13:00:24Z] <acheam> I thought it was only a server
[2021-08-21T13:00:43Z] <acheam> Look at us, two very well informed individuals having a great debate rooted in facts
[2021-08-21T13:01:25Z] <riteo> #kisslinux moment
[2021-08-21T13:02:06Z] <riteo> well, I'll be packaging it soon right when I happen to use my laptop again
[2021-08-21T13:02:26Z] <riteo> but maybe after pushing cataclysm-dda-curses which actually builds to kiss-games
[2021-08-21T13:02:59Z] <riteo> (and maybe fixing the tiles version too while I'm at it)
[2021-08-21T13:03:34Z] <riteo> well, gtg, cya later!
[2021-08-21T13:15:00Z] <phoebos> doesn't dropbear use an incompatible key format to openssh?
[2021-08-21T13:15:13Z] <phoebos> also riteo, openssh is still good software
[2021-08-21T13:38:28Z] <acheam> Yes it does phoebos
[2021-08-21T13:38:44Z] <acheam> Which is why dropbearconvert(1) exists
[2021-08-21T14:21:41Z] <riteo> hiiii! I'm back!
[2021-08-21T14:25:18Z] <testuser[m]> hi
[2021-08-21T20:09:48Z] <riteo> I'll go for now, cya later!