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[2021-06-05T00:12:52Z] <claudia> On my windows machine, firefox secretly updated to 89.0
[2021-06-05T00:13:05Z] <claudia> Now everything has round corners. I think the update is not worth it
[2021-06-05T00:28:29Z] <midfavila> embrace the nuegia browser
[2021-06-05T00:30:23Z] <claudia> Thats what I am thinking
[2021-06-05T00:30:50Z] <midfavila> holy shit, I just found my first TIFF on the web
[2021-06-05T00:31:09Z] <midfavila> of all places, it's in an old public icon repo at w3.org
[2021-06-05T00:31:18Z] <midfavila> that's amazing
[2021-06-05T00:32:39Z] <midfavila> https://www.w3.org/Icons/
[2021-06-05T00:36:01Z] <claudia> I forced myself to use links2 in graphics mode since a couple of days and still like it. Its often pretty useable.
[2021-06-05T00:36:09Z] <midfavila> links is fantastic
[2021-06-05T00:36:13Z] <midfavila> it's my daily driver
[2021-06-05T00:36:40Z] <midfavila> if you want, I have a patch in my repo to add suckless tabbed support.
[2021-06-05T00:37:03Z] <claudia> Yeah, I would safe it for later.
[2021-06-05T00:37:20Z] <midfavila> cool stuff
[2021-06-05T00:37:23Z] <claudia> But I use dwm with awesomebar patch which is basically tabbed interface.
[2021-06-05T00:39:32Z] <midfavila> neat.
[2021-06-05T00:59:10Z] <midfavila> so, TIL that my website is just about ISO HTML compliant.
[2021-06-05T00:59:19Z] <midfavila> very cool.
[2021-06-05T00:59:27Z] <sad_plan> im contemplating switching from eudev to mdev. is it a trivial process? i noticed it got a little easier anyway with libudev-zero by illiliti. seeing as you can just kiss a it, and eudev is no longer a dep for libinput and xorg-server
[2021-06-05T00:59:38Z] <sad_plan> i also stumpled upon this https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss
[2021-06-05T00:59:46Z] <sad_plan> which make it seem rather trivial tbh
[2021-06-05T00:59:46Z] <midfavila> i've had trouble with libudev and mdev on my laptop
[2021-06-05T00:59:49Z] <midfavila> but it's also an obscure model
[2021-06-05T01:00:37Z] <sad_plan> hm. iirc, you have to add these configs for xorg. would something like this suffice?
[2021-06-05T01:00:39Z] <sad_plan> https://github.com/slashbeast/mdev-like-a-boss/blob/master/xorg.conf.d/10-keyboard.conf
[2021-06-05T01:00:49Z] <midfavila> oh, it wasn't for the keyboard or anything
[2021-06-05T01:00:52Z] <midfavila> that worked ootb
[2021-06-05T01:00:55Z] <midfavila> even without mdev
[2021-06-05T01:00:59Z] <sad_plan> aah
[2021-06-05T01:01:03Z] <midfavila> it's my touchpad that's having trouble. apparently it's detected as a tablet
[2021-06-05T01:01:15Z] <midfavila> which is Good Programming:tm:
[2021-06-05T01:01:41Z] <sad_plan> aah. my touchpad isnt really working anyway. havent been bothered to make it work on kiss tbh. using a mouse anyway. soo no biggie then?
[2021-06-05T01:01:50Z] <midfavila> it shouldn't be, for you
[2021-06-05T01:01:55Z] <midfavila> but as always ymmv
[2021-06-05T01:02:01Z] <sad_plan> ymmv?
[2021-06-05T01:02:15Z] <midfavila> your mileage may vary
[2021-06-05T01:02:27Z] <sad_plan> aah. yeah
[2021-06-05T01:04:43Z] <midfavila> ISO-compliance achieved. fucking based.
[2021-06-05T01:04:47Z] <midfavila> HTML5lets btfo
[2021-06-05T01:14:37Z] <claudia> The author of badwolf is writing a wlroots compositor. https://hacktivis.me/git/inaban/file/README.md.html
[2021-06-05T01:16:25Z] <midfavila> that's neat, ig
[2021-06-05T01:16:37Z] <midfavila> i tried using badwolf for a while. wasn't the biggest fan of it
[2021-06-05T01:32:37Z] <sad_plan> I must say. it just worked. Im impressed tbh. I was actually expecting it to not work at all. i mean not having any keyboar working, mouse not working. but.. it just works :D
[2021-06-05T01:46:35Z] <dilyn> libudev-zero is basically a drop-in replacement for eudev if you're already using mdev
[2021-06-05T01:46:41Z] <dilyn> the real work comes in when you stop using mdev
[2021-06-05T01:47:04Z] <sad_plan> I figured, but yeah, it also stated such on the github page.
[2021-06-05T01:47:41Z] <sad_plan> yeah, I figured that at that point it would be more work. only complaint is the sound is abit low tbh. and if I raise it, it starts to crackle
[2021-06-05T01:47:52Z] <midfavila> that's odd
[2021-06-05T01:48:36Z] <sad_plan> yeah, it didnt do so before I switched, and thats basiclly all I did between earlier when playing a video, and now.
[2021-06-05T01:50:47Z] <sad_plan> yeah its defitivly lower than before.
[2021-06-05T01:54:29Z] <sad_plan> seems like rebuilding alsa-utils/libs worked :D probably a bug or something
[2021-06-05T01:59:05Z] <noocsharp> oh wow. firefox pretty. i switch to firefox.
[2021-06-05T01:59:26Z] <noocsharp> ^ apparent this is mozilla's target demographic now
[2021-06-05T01:59:42Z] <midfavila> I don't know anyone who actually likes their newer designs.
[2021-06-05T02:00:00Z] <noocsharp> yeah, like instead of making it look pretty, make it work pretty
[2021-06-05T02:00:21Z] <midfavila> that requires more effort
[2021-06-05T02:00:28Z] <midfavila> better to throw a new coat of paint on it to impress the normies
[2021-06-05T02:14:11Z] <midfavila> CGI is so nifty.
[2021-06-05T02:22:25Z] <noocsharp> what are you using it for?
[2021-06-05T02:24:12Z] <midfavila> right now I just have a sample perl script that prints out environment details on my server
[2021-06-05T02:24:27Z] <midfavila> but eventually I'd like to use it to generate ISO HTML-compliant image galleries
[2021-06-05T02:25:33Z] <midfavila> since there's a couple Scheme interpreters on SDF, I'll likely write it in that.
[2021-06-05T02:27:42Z] <noocsharp> id just write a program that generates a static html page whenever a new image is added
[2021-06-05T02:28:26Z] <midfavila> that's basically what I want to do
[2021-06-05T02:28:33Z] <midfavila> but using CGI for it is an excuse to tinker with new toys
[2021-06-05T02:28:52Z] <noocsharp> ah, fair
[2021-06-05T02:29:01Z] <midfavila> i'll be able to add sorts and stuff, too, with CGI
[2021-06-05T02:29:14Z] <midfavila> since I want to add some IRL photos, eventually
[2021-06-05T02:29:53Z] <noocsharp> seems cool
[2021-06-05T02:30:07Z] <midfavila> anyway, yeah. http://midfavila.chaosnet.org/cgi-bin/hwo.cgi
[2021-06-05T02:30:11Z] <midfavila> this is the power of LISP!!!
[2021-06-05T02:32:14Z] <midfavila> chicken is a cool dialect. it's got a transpiler and interpreter, and a surprising number of libraries
[2021-06-05T02:36:04Z] <midfavila> it also manages to be faster than guile or racket
[2021-06-05T02:36:10Z] <midfavila> but I guess that's not a very high bar
[2021-06-05T02:40:11Z] <dante_boi> testuser[m]_
[2021-06-05T02:40:29Z] <dante_boi> You use proton in steam?
[2021-06-05T03:08:12Z] <jslick0> apparently you can disable the "proton" ui for the time being. In the meantime, I'll just stick with FF 88 for a bit longer
[2021-06-05T03:26:29Z] <rio6> I like it more than the previous one, with a little user chrome styling
[2021-06-05T03:38:31Z] <midfavila> phew, site remodelling is done
[2021-06-05T03:38:37Z] <midfavila> everything is ISO HTML compliant now
[2021-06-05T03:39:02Z] <midfavila> gotta clean up the markup soon, since it's crufty, but it's perfectly valid, so I'm content for tonight
[2021-06-05T04:18:13Z] <midfavila> ...oh, dude..! I should totally write a guestbook program!
[2021-06-05T04:31:46Z] <testuser[m]_> hi
[2021-06-05T04:31:52Z] <midfavila> ih
[2021-06-05T04:38:43Z] <midfavila> well, it's almost 2AM for me.
[2021-06-05T04:38:46Z] <midfavila> i'm out.
[2021-06-05T04:38:49Z] <midfavila> see you guys later.
[2021-06-05T04:55:43Z] <testuser[m]_> whats a portable alternative for grep -o ?
[2021-06-05T09:40:03Z] <testuser[m]_> dilyn: Lol it works just fine after export C{XX}FLAGS="$C{XX}FLAGS -I/usr/inclu
[2021-06-05T09:40:03Z] <testuser[m]_> de/c++/11.1.0/$(cc -dumpmachine)"
[2021-06-05T09:40:09Z] <testuser[m]_> also I/usr/include/c
[2021-06-05T09:40:10Z] <testuser[m]_> ++/11.1.0
[2021-06-05T09:45:21Z] <testuser[m]_> there is def a deeper problem tho
[2021-06-05T10:45:47Z] <ang> testuser[m]_: sed -n 's/.*\(bar\).*/\1/p'
[2021-06-05T10:46:07Z] <ang> a grep -o
[2021-06-05T10:46:58Z] <testuser[m]_> thanks
[2021-06-05T10:52:40Z] <ang> awk 'match($0, /bar/) { print substr($0, RSTART, RLENGTH) }'
[2021-06-05T10:53:01Z] <ang> awk might be slightly faster
[2021-06-05T11:06:42Z] <mmatongo> can anyone help me with this, been having this issue for a few days now
[2021-06-05T11:10:10Z] <mmatongo> Everytime I reboot my laptop the date/time resets to 2017
[2021-06-05T11:10:29Z] <mmatongo> Had this issue before but I forgot how I fixed it last time
[2021-06-05T12:06:48Z] <janko> Tips for compiling LLVM Clang quicker
[2021-06-05T12:06:49Z] <janko> ?
[2021-06-05T12:33:04Z] <june> use faster computer
[2021-06-05T12:58:40Z] <acheam> testuser[m]: you can use ask for that
[2021-06-05T12:59:04Z] <acheam> oops ang already said that, wasn't scrolled down enough
[2021-06-05T13:01:18Z] <ang> 2fast4u
[2021-06-05T13:01:46Z] <acheam> damn timezones
[2021-06-05T13:08:59Z] <ang> let's remove timezones, ez
[2021-06-05T13:09:01Z] <testuser[m]1> Test
[2021-06-05T13:09:04Z] <testuser[m]_> FINALLY
[2021-06-05T13:09:11Z] <ang> back on matrix?
[2021-06-05T13:09:29Z] <testuser[m]1> My old homeserver was cursed for a few weeks
[2021-06-05T13:09:39Z] <testuser[m]1> So i just decided to run stable synapse now
[2021-06-05T13:10:01Z] <testuser[m]1> Purged the old one
[2021-06-05T13:10:03Z] <ang> I see
[2021-06-05T13:11:25Z] <ang> do you use matrix besides the irc bridge?
[2021-06-05T13:12:02Z] <testuser[m]1> I use matrix for mainly shitcord and this irc channel
[2021-06-05T13:12:12Z] <testuser[m]1> And 1-2 native matrix channels
[2021-06-05T13:12:18Z] <ang> fair
[2021-06-05T13:12:39Z] <ang> wait, there is a discord bridge of some sort?
[2021-06-05T13:12:51Z] <testuser[m]1> There's a few
[2021-06-05T13:12:58Z] <testuser[m]1> I wrote my own cuz others were in nodejs
[2021-06-05T13:13:05Z] <ang> that's interesting
[2021-06-05T13:15:07Z] <testuser[m]1> I was bothered with nodejs cuz this irc bridge hosted by matrix.org is reliable but at that time, their discord bridge didn't really work, took ages to send messages
[2021-06-05T13:15:15Z] <testuser[m]1> Idk if itst still the case
[2021-06-05T13:15:44Z] <testuser[m]1> So i wasn't gonna run nodejs on my self hosted server
[2021-06-05T13:17:26Z] <ang> what's yours written in?
[2021-06-05T13:19:37Z] <testuser[m]1> Python
[2021-06-05T13:20:02Z] <testuser[m]1> I don't mind it cuz i have like 2 dependencies
[2021-06-05T13:21:01Z] <ang> only mildly better
[2021-06-05T13:21:25Z] <ang> I wouldn't mind tho, I have python anyway and can't really get rid of it :(
[2021-06-05T13:21:58Z] <testuser[m]1> Yeah you need python anyway
[2021-06-05T13:22:52Z] <testuser[m]1> What lang would you prefer such a bot in
[2021-06-05T13:24:22Z] <ang> no idea what's feasible to be honest
[2021-06-05T13:25:00Z] <testuser[m]1> Can you do networking with awk ? :p
[2021-06-05T13:25:06Z] <ang> haha
[2021-06-05T13:25:14Z] <ang> with gawk you can
[2021-06-05T13:25:36Z] <ang> just like bash, it has /dev/tcp pseudo device
[2021-06-05T13:26:36Z] <testuser[m]1> Hmm
[2021-06-05T13:26:44Z] <ang> need to go grocery shopping
[2021-06-05T13:26:46Z] <ang> bbl
[2021-06-05T13:37:29Z] <testuser[m]1> acheam: btw checkout clang sanitizers as an alternative to valgrind, since you've been playing with C recently
[2021-06-05T14:18:24Z] <acheam> testuser[m]1: will do, thanks!
[2021-06-05T14:34:00Z] <riteo> hii!
[2021-06-05T14:35:20Z] <testuser[m]1> Hey riteo
[2021-06-05T15:05:53Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> Hello, i just installed kiss and got X working, but after startxing, sowm starts, but all input is frozen
[2021-06-05T15:06:18Z] <testuser[m]1> add yourself to input group
[2021-06-05T15:07:27Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> Do that with "addgroup username input" right?
[2021-06-05T15:08:21Z] <testuser[m]1> yea
[2021-06-05T15:08:44Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> Thank you
[2021-06-05T15:16:23Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> It still does not work.
[2021-06-05T15:16:41Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> Even using root does not fix it.
[2021-06-05T15:17:35Z] <testuser[m]1> installed udev ?
[2021-06-05T15:17:43Z] <testuser[m]1> you need to enable the eudev service too
[2021-06-05T15:17:47Z] <testuser[m]1> or mdev
[2021-06-05T15:18:08Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> How do I enable eudev?
[2021-06-05T15:19:18Z] <testuser[m]1> ln -s /etc/sv/udevd /var/service/
[2021-06-05T15:26:01Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> The problem is persisting
[2021-06-05T15:26:23Z] <testuser[m]1> did you reboot
[2021-06-05T15:26:38Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> Yes
[2021-06-05T15:27:10Z] <testuser[m]1> send dmesg and ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*
[2021-06-05T15:33:17Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> https://pastebin.com/raw/Z5TD5GZ2
[2021-06-05T15:35:24Z] <helpmeunfreezexo> I created the pastebin from a livecd, but how do I get the dmesg?
[2021-06-05T15:37:52Z] <testuser[m]1> you get dmesg from booting into the kernel
[2021-06-05T15:37:55Z] <testuser[m]1> just dont launch xorg
[2021-06-05T19:08:47Z] <Cattt64> I have a chroot, and tried to install toybox. Since toybox requires bash, i built in my host env and installed with PREFIX=/mnt/bin/ make install_flat. Something weird happened because now I can not run any commands in my chroot, they come up with command not found. But the file is in my /bin/. The toybox binary that it is linked to is also in my
[2021-06-05T19:08:48Z] <Cattt64> /bin. I can even run the commands from my host envoirment with /mnt/bin/toybox or /mnt/bin/ls.
[2021-06-05T19:19:46Z] <jslick0> maybe the symlinks are absolute paths instead of relative paths