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2021-01-16T02:27:52 #kisslinux <humosign> Hey midfavila
2021-01-16T02:27:53 #kisslinux <humosign> What's up
2021-01-16T02:28:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> not much
2021-01-16T02:28:54 #kisslinux <humosign> Hum
2021-01-16T02:28:54 #kisslinux <humosign> I see
2021-01-16T02:28:55 #kisslinux <midfavila> currently reinstalling KISS on my laptop
2021-01-16T02:28:58 #kisslinux <humosign> Oh.
2021-01-16T02:29:02 #kisslinux <humosign> About that
2021-01-16T02:29:04 #kisslinux <midfavila> but like I literally got outta bed fifteen minutes ago lel
2021-01-16T02:29:08 #kisslinux <humosign> Is ubase /bin/getty broken for you?
2021-01-16T02:29:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> nope
2021-01-16T02:29:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> how are you invoking it?
2021-01-16T02:29:28 #kisslinux <humosign> It said not found when I rebooted
2021-01-16T02:29:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> reinstall ubase ig
2021-01-16T02:29:45 #kisslinux <humosign> /bin/getty: not found being spammed
2021-01-16T02:29:49 #kisslinux <humosign> hum ok
2021-01-16T02:30:44 #kisslinux <humosign> midfavila, this is what I was getting
2021-01-16T02:31:05 #kisslinux <humosign> ./bin/getty: open 38400: no such file or directory
2021-01-16T02:31:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeah that's normal
2021-01-16T02:31:19 #kisslinux <humosign> but what is that
2021-01-16T02:31:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> normally it's a baud rate
2021-01-16T02:31:44 #kisslinux <humosign> hum?
2021-01-16T02:31:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> but suckless getty doesn't handle different baudrates
2021-01-16T02:31:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> oh
2021-01-16T02:31:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> a baud is a unit of analog data
2021-01-16T02:31:59 #kisslinux <midfavila> think of it as equivalent to a bit
2021-01-16T02:32:06 #kisslinux <humosign> ooh
2021-01-16T02:32:31 #kisslinux <midfavila> you also have to tell getty which tty you want using a full path
2021-01-16T02:32:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> like /dev/tty1 instead of tty1
2021-01-16T02:32:56 #kisslinux <humosign> well I checked getty.c
2021-01-16T02:33:37 #kisslinux <humosign> midfavila: it already has /dev/tty
2021-01-16T02:33:52 #kisslinux <humosign> what can I do about the baudrate problem?
2021-01-16T02:33:58 #kisslinux <humosign> um
2021-01-16T02:34:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> stop specifying it
2021-01-16T02:34:10 #kisslinux <humosign> s//dev//tty//dev/tty1/
2021-01-16T02:34:14 #kisslinux <humosign> fail
2021-01-16T02:34:27 #kisslinux <humosign> OH
2021-01-16T02:34:32 #kisslinux <humosign> I missed one =(
2021-01-16T02:34:42 #kisslinux <humosign> specifying the tty midvaila?
2021-01-16T02:34:44 #kisslinux <humosign> midfavila*
2021-01-16T02:34:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> - w-
2021-01-16T02:34:50 #kisslinux <humosign> so I just sed the line then?
2021-01-16T02:34:58 #kisslinux <midfavila> /usr/bin/getty /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:35:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's what you have to change it to
2021-01-16T02:35:15 #kisslinux <humosign> but if this is there
2021-01-16T02:35:16 #kisslinux <humosign> static char *tty = "/dev/tty1";
2021-01-16T02:35:21 #kisslinux <midfavila> no no no
2021-01-16T02:35:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> you change it in your init script
2021-01-16T02:35:30 #kisslinux <humosign> OH
2021-01-16T02:35:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's an invocation error
2021-01-16T02:36:14 #kisslinux <humosign> and that tty constant wont get in the way midfavila?
2021-01-16T02:36:24 #kisslinux <midfavila> the source code is irrelevant
2021-01-16T02:36:27 #kisslinux <humosign> ok
2021-01-16T02:36:34 #kisslinux <humosign> and how do I change my init script?
2021-01-16T02:36:37 #kisslinux <humosign> I've never done that
2021-01-16T02:36:43 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk depends on what init system you're using
2021-01-16T02:36:43 #kisslinux <humosign> Sorry
2021-01-16T02:36:46 #kisslinux <humosign> Oh
2021-01-16T02:36:49 #kisslinux <humosign> I'm still on busybox init
2021-01-16T02:36:51 #kisslinux <humosign> Should I change
2021-01-16T02:36:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you're using busybox then it should be /etc/inittab
2021-01-16T02:36:54 #kisslinux <humosign> I think so
2021-01-16T02:37:05 #kisslinux <humosign> Maybe later
2021-01-16T02:37:16 #kisslinux <humosign> FAAAIl
2021-01-16T02:37:17 #kisslinux <humosign> Look
2021-01-16T02:37:19 #kisslinux <humosign> tty1::respawn:/bin/getty 38400 tty1
2021-01-16T02:37:24 #kisslinux <humosign> tty2::respawn:/bin/getty 38400 tty2
2021-01-16T02:37:29 #kisslinux <humosign> No /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:37:35 #kisslinux <midfavila> told you
2021-01-16T02:37:37 #kisslinux <humosign> And what about that number
2021-01-16T02:37:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> remove the baudrate, change the tty to an absolute path
2021-01-16T02:38:00 #kisslinux <humosign> So just tty1::respawn:/bin/getty 38400 /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:38:03 #kisslinux <humosign> Without the number
2021-01-16T02:38:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> no = w=
2021-01-16T02:38:12 #kisslinux <humosign> uuuuuuuhhhh
2021-01-16T02:38:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> /bin/getty /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:38:23 #kisslinux <humosign> Yes
2021-01-16T02:38:31 #kisslinux <humosign> tty1::respawn:/bin/getty /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:38:40 #kisslinux <humosign> It's calling /bin/getty /dev/tty1
2021-01-16T02:38:41 #kisslinux <humosign> For tty1
2021-01-16T02:38:42 #kisslinux <humosign> Lol
2021-01-16T02:39:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> well if that's not working then I'm not sure
2021-01-16T02:39:16 #kisslinux <humosign> Well
2021-01-16T02:39:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> you have to reboot after any changes for what it's worth
2021-01-16T02:39:20 #kisslinux <humosign> But let me reboot
2021-01-16T02:39:26 #kisslinux <humosign> I have to try this out
2021-01-16T02:39:38 #kisslinux <humosign> Also
2021-01-16T02:39:42 #kisslinux <humosign> What's up with dash and this?
2021-01-16T02:39:43 #kisslinux <humosign> make[1]: make[1]: don't know how to make %:. Stop
2021-01-16T02:39:49 #kisslinux <humosign> Now that I'm here I might as well make the stupid questions
2021-01-16T02:40:34 #kisslinux <midfavila> I actually wouldn't know about that
2021-01-16T02:40:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> I've never run into it
2021-01-16T02:40:44 #kisslinux <humosign> I changed make to gmake and it worked ;_;
2021-01-16T02:40:50 #kisslinux <humosign> Probably I could fix the makefile
2021-01-16T02:41:14 #kisslinux <humosign> But I have seriously zero idea about makefiels
2021-01-16T02:41:23 #kisslinux <humosign> That's weird though favila
2021-01-16T02:41:25 #kisslinux <humosign> Anyway
2021-01-16T02:41:30 #kisslinux <humosign> Time for a restart
2021-01-16T02:43:08 #kisslinux <humosign2> nice
2021-01-16T02:43:11 #kisslinux <humosign2> that did the trick midfavila
2021-01-16T02:43:15 #kisslinux <humosign2> also
2021-01-16T02:43:27 #kisslinux <humosign2> i couldn't compile gnugrep
2021-01-16T02:43:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> because it needed auto{make,conf}
2021-01-16T02:43:52 #kisslinux <humosign2> and those failed because I wasn't using GNU's m4
2021-01-16T02:44:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> yeeeeup
2021-01-16T02:44:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> I tried using heirloom m4 and got the same problem
2021-01-16T02:44:18 #kisslinux <humosign2> I guess I won't be using gnugrep?
2021-01-16T02:44:27 #kisslinux <humosign2> sbase grep is very poor though
2021-01-16T02:45:05 #kisslinux <humosign2> I switched my /bin/sh :(
2021-01-16T02:45:07 #kisslinux <humosign2> :)*
2021-01-16T02:45:08 #kisslinux <humosign2> LOL
2021-01-16T02:45:19 #kisslinux <humosign2> To dash
2021-01-16T02:45:37 #kisslinux <humosign2> Also just to recall midfavila
2021-01-16T02:45:46 #kisslinux <humosign2> You use mksh by running it in .profile right?
2021-01-16T02:45:57 #kisslinux <midfavila> no
2021-01-16T02:46:03 #kisslinux <humosign2> Uh
2021-01-16T02:46:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> you just run chsh [youruserhere]
2021-01-16T02:46:14 #kisslinux <humosign2> You chsh
2021-01-16T02:46:14 #kisslinux <humosign2> Ok
2021-01-16T02:46:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> as root
2021-01-16T02:46:20 #kisslinux <humosign2> Or I can change /etc/passwd too
2021-01-16T02:46:21 #kisslinux <humosign2> Ok
2021-01-16T02:46:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> chsh not found lol
2021-01-16T02:47:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> install shadow
2021-01-16T02:47:29 #kisslinux <humosign2> also...
2021-01-16T02:47:56 #kisslinux <humosign2> mksh has no persistent history..?
2021-01-16T02:48:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> it does.
2021-01-16T02:48:03 #kisslinux <humosign2> wut
2021-01-16T02:48:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> but I believe you have to enable it
2021-01-16T02:48:16 #kisslinux <humosign2> in configure?
2021-01-16T02:48:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> I might be wrong though, I normally don't care for persistent shell history
2021-01-16T02:48:20 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes
2021-01-16T02:48:28 #kisslinux <midfavila> if there's an option for it it's in configure
2021-01-16T02:48:34 #kisslinux <humosign2> Ok
2021-01-16T02:49:42 #kisslinux <humosign2> midfavila:
2021-01-16T02:49:46 #kisslinux <humosign2> What tar do you use?
2021-01-16T02:49:51 #kisslinux <humosign2> I'm sorry for so many questions lol
2021-01-16T02:49:52 #kisslinux <midfavila> BSD libarchive
2021-01-16T02:49:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> it's fine
2021-01-16T02:50:07 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've been considering attempting to switch to pax
2021-01-16T02:50:14 #kisslinux <humosign2> That's the posix one right?
2021-01-16T02:50:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> yes
2021-01-16T02:50:21 #kisslinux <humosign2> Hmm
2021-01-16T02:50:27 #kisslinux <humosign2> You'd be kinda gimping yourself though
2021-01-16T02:50:40 #kisslinux <humosign2> BSD tar is a nice middle
2021-01-16T02:50:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> if it can extract tarchives it works for me
2021-01-16T02:50:49 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-16T02:51:01 #kisslinux <humosign2> Gotcha
2021-01-16T02:53:49 #kisslinux <humosign2> wait a minute midfavila
2021-01-16T02:53:58 #kisslinux <humosign2> I think I'm suspecting xorg is not using my video card at all
2021-01-16T02:54:19 #kisslinux <midfavila> if you don't have the xorg driver that would be very likely
2021-01-16T02:54:37 #kisslinux <humosign2> Hmm
2021-01-16T02:54:40 #kisslinux <humosign2> Just things of mine
2021-01-16T02:54:45 #kisslinux <humosign2> I have xf86-video-intel
2021-01-16T02:54:49 #kisslinux <humosign2> I looked at the xorg log
2021-01-16T02:55:03 #kisslinux <humosign2> AIEEE
2021-01-16T02:55:06 #kisslinux <humosign2> Here's my problem
2021-01-16T02:55:06 #kisslinux <humosign2> [ 12.243] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so failed (Error loading shared library /usr/lib/dri/i965_dri.so: No such file or directory)
2021-01-16T02:55:07 #kisslinux <humosign2> Wow
2021-01-16T02:55:11 #kisslinux <humosign2> I wonder how VVVVVV ran so well then
2021-01-16T02:55:12 #kisslinux <humosign2> Lol
2021-01-16T02:55:30 #kisslinux <humosign2> Wait... but it IS there
2021-01-16T02:55:59 #kisslinux <humosign2> I should maybe make /usr/lib/dri owned by root:video
2021-01-16T02:56:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's not needed
2021-01-16T02:56:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> are you using binary libraries?
2021-01-16T02:56:45 #kisslinux <humosign2> Not that I know of?
2021-01-16T02:56:52 #kisslinux <humosign2> I built mesa myself
2021-01-16T02:57:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> weird.
2021-01-16T02:57:31 #kisslinux <humosign2> Wait
2021-01-16T02:57:34 #kisslinux <humosign2> There is a i915
2021-01-16T02:57:39 #kisslinux <humosign2> But not a i9!SIX!5
2021-01-16T02:57:57 #kisslinux <humosign2> But other useless things are there
2021-01-16T02:58:01 #kisslinux <humosign2> Like iris
2021-01-16T02:58:03 #kisslinux <humosign2> Radeon
2021-01-16T02:58:05 #kisslinux <humosign2> Nouveau
2021-01-16T02:58:57 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-16T02:59:23 #kisslinux <humosign2> Uuuuuhhhh
2021-01-16T03:04:29 #kisslinux <humosign2> WHAT A JOKE
2021-01-16T03:04:31 #kisslinux <humosign2> > -Ddri-drivers=i915,r100,r200,nouveau 2021-01-16T03:04:37 #kisslinux <humosign2> WHY IS i965 NOT THERE
2021-01-16T03:04:58 #kisslinux <humosign2> Now to rebuild mesa :D
2021-01-16T03:06:37 #kisslinux <humosign2> I hope this works
2021-01-16T03:13:08 #kisslinux <humosign2> So far so good midfavila
2021-01-16T03:13:10 #kisslinux <humosign2> I think that worked
2021-01-16T03:13:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> that's good
2021-01-16T03:13:27 #kisslinux <humosign2> I changed the line to just i915,i965 now
2021-01-16T03:13:33 #kisslinux <humosign2> No unnecessary stuff
2021-01-16T03:13:33 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yeah
2021-01-16T03:13:35 #kisslinux <humosign2> I just have to wait now
2021-01-16T03:13:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> It would've failed by now
2021-01-16T03:14:01 #kisslinux <humosign2> Btw midfavila
2021-01-16T03:14:07 #kisslinux <humosign2> Do you find pulseaudio to degrade audio quality?
2021-01-16T03:14:11 #kisslinux <humosign2> Throughout the years
2021-01-16T03:14:14 #kisslinux <humosign2> I can't help but notice
2021-01-16T03:14:23 #kisslinux <humosign2> Audio gets compressed or something
2021-01-16T03:14:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> it might have an affect on latency idk
2021-01-16T03:14:32 #kisslinux <humosign2> Meanwhile I'm finally just on ALSA
2021-01-16T03:14:33 #kisslinux <midfavila> but I've not touched pulse in years
2021-01-16T03:14:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> And everything sounds much better
2021-01-16T03:14:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> Well
2021-01-16T03:14:42 #kisslinux <humosign2> I have recently sadly
2021-01-16T03:14:49 #kisslinux <humosign2> Pulseaudio is very very bad
2021-01-16T03:14:56 #kisslinux <humosign2> Only reason I'd use it is for bluetooth
2021-01-16T03:15:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> bluetooth is cringe
2021-01-16T03:15:07 #kisslinux <humosign2> And even then probably jackaudio can help out there? Idk
2021-01-16T03:15:11 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yes it IS cringe
2021-01-16T03:15:15 #kisslinux <humosign2> And I don't use bluetooth
2021-01-16T03:15:20 #kisslinux <humosign2> My kernel doesn't have bluetooth
2021-01-16T03:15:33 #kisslinux <humosign2> I hope I never use it again
2021-01-16T03:35:18 #kisslinux <humosign2> But yes midfavila
2021-01-16T03:35:27 #kisslinux <humosign2> Pulseaudio affects latency pretty badly
2021-01-16T03:36:00 #kisslinux <midfavila> i feel like the only reason most people care about pulse is muh software mixing
2021-01-16T03:36:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> and also for some reason people think ALSA can only playback one source at a time???
2021-01-16T03:36:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> no idea where that came from
2021-01-16T03:37:01 #kisslinux <humosign2> That's pretty stupid
2021-01-16T03:37:12 #kisslinux <humosign2> But it checks out
2021-01-16T03:37:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> https://www.vitavonni.de/blog/200612/2006120402-software-mixer.html
2021-01-16T03:37:18 #kisslinux <humosign2> You have to be pretty dumb to use pulseaudio
2021-01-16T03:37:25 #kisslinux <humosign2> Just use dmix
2021-01-16T03:37:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> according to this ancient blogpost you actually can do software mixing with ALSA
2021-01-16T03:37:30 #kisslinux <humosign2> YEs
2021-01-16T03:37:32 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yes
2021-01-16T03:37:33 #kisslinux <humosign2> With dmix
2021-01-16T03:37:40 #kisslinux <humosign2> And {down,up}mixing
2021-01-16T03:37:42 #kisslinux <humosign2> All in software
2021-01-16T03:37:51 #kisslinux <humosign2> If your sound card doesn't do that stuff already
2021-01-16T03:38:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> not sure
2021-01-16T03:38:05 #kisslinux <humosign2> Ys
2021-01-16T03:38:08 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yes
2021-01-16T03:38:09 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've got an ASUS Xonar STX
2021-01-16T03:38:09 #kisslinux <humosign2> I've done it
2021-01-16T03:38:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> picked it up expressly because it has basically native support from ALSA
2021-01-16T03:38:29 #kisslinux <humosign2> Because I have some crappy intel hd
2021-01-16T03:38:36 #kisslinux <humosign2> Oh
2021-01-16T03:38:38 #kisslinux <humosign2> That's interesting
2021-01-16T03:38:40 #kisslinux <midfavila> rip onboard audio
2021-01-16T03:38:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'm super excited to get the pair of sony headphones I bought recently
2021-01-16T03:38:55 #kisslinux <humosign2> You're the only person I know using not onboard audio
2021-01-16T03:39:05 #kisslinux <midfavila> that way I can finally start taking advantage of the quart inch jacks on my card
2021-01-16T03:39:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> and yeah, that's because everyone says onboard is fine
2021-01-16T03:39:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> which like
2021-01-16T03:39:17 #kisslinux <midfavila> it __is_
2021-01-16T03:39:25 #kisslinux <humosign2> But not FINE
2021-01-16T03:39:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> but a sound card offers more than just higher quality audio
2021-01-16T03:39:35 #kisslinux <humosign2> Also hardware mixing
2021-01-16T03:39:36 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yes
2021-01-16T03:39:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> there's a ton of extra utility that you get out of it
2021-01-16T03:39:39 #kisslinux <humosign2> Lol
2021-01-16T03:39:42 #kisslinux <humosign2> And extra outputs
2021-01-16T03:39:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> I wanted to get a soundcard with a MIDI wavetable so that I wouldn't have to run it in software, but...
2021-01-16T03:39:58 #kisslinux <humosign2> Which sounds very handy not going to lie
2021-01-16T03:40:01 #kisslinux <humosign2> Oh
2021-01-16T03:40:06 #kisslinux <humosign2> That would be very cool
2021-01-16T03:40:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> the card I wanted, a Halo XT, is out of production and stupendously expensive
2021-01-16T03:40:10 #kisslinux <humosign2> Having a roland midi card
2021-01-16T03:40:30 #kisslinux <midfavila> I need to find more interesting PCIe boards
2021-01-16T03:40:31 #kisslinux <humosign2> SG88 hardware card
2021-01-16T03:40:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've got 96 lanes I need to fill :v
2021-01-16T03:40:40 #kisslinux <humosign2> Lol
2021-01-16T03:40:55 #kisslinux <humosign2> Idk the halo xt
2021-01-16T03:40:58 #kisslinux <humosign2> Who made that?
2021-01-16T03:41:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> i can't recall atm, it's been years
2021-01-16T03:41:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> well
2021-01-16T03:41:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> a year and a half
2021-01-16T03:41:14 #kisslinux <midfavila> :v
2021-01-16T03:41:17 #kisslinux <humosign2> LOL
2021-01-16T03:41:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> HT Omega
2021-01-16T03:41:51 #kisslinux <midfavila> although it's probably better that I just got the Xonar
2021-01-16T03:41:56 #kisslinux <humosign2> Yes.
2021-01-16T03:42:20 #kisslinux <humosign2> What goodies do you get out of a dedicated sound card anyway midfavila?
2021-01-16T03:42:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, my card has a swappable amp, for example
2021-01-16T03:42:47 #kisslinux <midfavila> so it can drive headphones up to 600ohm
2021-01-16T03:43:04 #kisslinux <humosign2> Very useful huh
2021-01-16T03:43:06 #kisslinux <midfavila> or you can crank that up on lower resistance headphones to increase the volume without any signal degradation
2021-01-16T03:43:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> wouldn't recommend doing that on shitty headphones though, you might blow the drivers out or whatever
2021-01-16T03:43:32 #kisslinux <midfavila> idk I'm not an audio guy
2021-01-16T03:43:41 #kisslinux <humosign2> Not much one myself either
2021-01-16T03:43:53 #kisslinux <midfavila> aside from that, it has quart inch jacks, so you can use higher-end and more exotic equipment with it
2021-01-16T03:43:58 #kisslinux <humosign2> But you could definitely benefit from this stuff in the long run
2021-01-16T03:44:17 #kisslinux <humosign2> Oh yeah
2021-01-16T03:44:18 #kisslinux <humosign2> You mentioned
2021-01-16T03:44:23 #kisslinux <midfavila> alsamixer presents an option called "DAC Filter". no idea about that
2021-01-16T03:44:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> but it's a thing
2021-01-16T03:44:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> there's "De-emphasis" too
2021-01-16T03:45:34 #kisslinux <humosign2> All things from your nice soundcard
2021-01-16T03:45:41 #kisslinux <humosign2> So yeah
2021-01-16T03:45:53 #kisslinux <humosign2> I guess play around with those
2021-01-16T03:46:02 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, I can't make a judgement on whether or not it's a big deal, since I'm not an audio person
2021-01-16T03:46:12 #kisslinux <midfavila> all I know is that fancy board make nice-noise gooder
2021-01-16T03:46:14 #kisslinux <humosign2> only one way to find out
2021-01-16T03:46:15 #kisslinux * midfavila shrugs
2021-01-16T03:46:18 #kisslinux <humosign2> Lol
2021-01-16T03:46:19 #kisslinux <humosign2> I guess so
2021-01-16T16:41:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> Hey, have any of you guys gotten MIT Scheme to work on standard KISS?
2021-01-16T16:42:29 #kisslinux <midfavila> It's a self-hosting compiler so it requires a binary, and I'll be honest, I don't really want to go through the process of cross-compiling... would be nice if someone had packaged it
2021-01-16T20:48:09 #kisslinux <Rio6> github is now allowing me to create pr against kiss-community/repo-community :(
2021-01-16T20:48:22 #kisslinux <Rio6> *not
2021-01-16T20:48:37 #kisslinux <Rio6> not allowing me to
2021-01-16T20:53:30 #kisslinux <acheam> Rio6: does it give a reason?
2021-01-16T20:54:09 #kisslinux <Rio6> it just says "Choose different branches or forks above to discuss and review changes."
2021-01-16T20:54:48 #kisslinux <Rio6> I tried to copy the branch and rebase it against repo-community/main but doesn't seem to work
2021-01-16T20:55:53 #kisslinux <Rio6> I don't have to fork it into a new repo do I
2021-01-16T21:02:15 #kisslinux <midfavila> any of you guys having a problem building gdk-pixbuf?
2021-01-16T21:05:21 #kisslinux <Rio6> mine is building fine
2021-01-16T21:05:26 #kisslinux <midfavila> hrm
2021-01-16T21:05:44 #kisslinux <midfavila> mine keeps erroring out with problems related to msgfmt
2021-01-16T21:05:54 #kisslinux <midfavila> i've run into this problem before but I can't remember how I fixed it
2021-01-16T21:06:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> rebuilding meson, python, and gettext doesn't help... :|
2021-01-16T21:06:11 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, whatever
2021-01-16T21:08:11 #kisslinux <Rio6> oh I actually remember having msgfmt error on a few of the packages
2021-01-16T21:08:38 #kisslinux <midfavila> do you recall what you did to fix it?
2021-01-16T21:08:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> you'd be a lifesaver if so
2021-01-16T21:08:51 #kisslinux <Rio6> I'm looking into my builds see if I left anything :P
2021-01-16T21:09:01 #kisslinux <midfavila> thanks
2021-01-16T21:11:57 #kisslinux <Rio6> can't find anything so far :|, but I think it's something with glib and gettext
2021-01-16T21:12:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> I made sure to rebuild glib too...
2021-01-16T21:12:42 #kisslinux <midfavila> hrm
2021-01-16T21:12:50 #kisslinux <midfavila> the weird thing is that it's build on this system before
2021-01-16T21:12:56 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/build/built/
2021-01-16T21:12:57 #kisslinux <kissbot> <midfavila> the weird thing is that it's built on this system before
2021-01-16T21:13:10 #kisslinux <midfavila> works on my desktop and server too so...
2021-01-16T21:13:22 #kisslinux <midfavila> well, workstation
2021-01-16T21:13:27 #kisslinux <midfavila> not much of a server
2021-01-16T21:27:36 #kisslinux <Rio6> been remembering for the past minutes but I can't remember what I did :p, I've been fixing too many issues om my packages
2021-01-16T21:27:47 #kisslinux <Rio6> sorry, not much help
2021-01-16T21:30:13 #kisslinux <midfavila> no worries
2021-01-16T21:30:18 #kisslinux <midfavila> i'll probably just rebuild the image
2021-01-16T21:30:36 #kisslinux <midfavila> shouldn't take long this time around since I've written a guide for myself to follow in the future
2021-01-16T22:27:44 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> midfavila, you can always use gettext-tiny instead of gnu-gettext
2021-01-16T22:28:03 #kisslinux <midfavila> I dunno if that'd make much of a difference, but I'll give it a shot, I guess
2021-01-16T22:28:37 #kisslinux <midfavila> although... isn't it a little finnicky?
2021-01-16T22:28:49 #kisslinux <midfavila> I used to use Sorcerer Linux and could never get it to work with gettext-tiny
2021-01-16T22:29:25 #kisslinux <midfavila> s/Sorcerer/Source Mage/
2021-01-16T22:29:25 #kisslinux <kissbot> <midfavila> I used to use Source Mage Linux and could never get it to work with gettext-tiny
2021-01-16T22:29:28 #kisslinux <sh4rm4^bnc> since i'm the author of gettext-tiny, i can honestly say that i'm not aware of any issues
2021-01-16T22:29:48 #kisslinux <midfavila> hrm. I'll give it a shot on my new install then