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2020-10-28T02:08:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Useless borders: http://0x0.st/iktg.png
2020-10-28T05:37:34 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> > dylan showing his C rookie status... because the first thing a C newcomer does is to write his own string library
2020-10-28T05:37:39 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> sh4rm4^bnc: You got me lol
2020-10-28T06:14:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> Dylanaraps does latest firefox build for you on wayland?
2020-10-28T06:15:19 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Yes
2020-10-28T06:15:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Was trying to help my gf get it build earlier on wayland and didn't seem to work
2020-10-28T06:16:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have no idea what is wrong with the install webkit2gtk wouldn't build either
2020-10-28T06:16:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> We did a reinstall but no look
2020-10-28T06:16:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> luck
2020-10-28T06:16:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> *
2020-10-28T06:16:24 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Send logs
2020-10-28T06:16:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> She's asleep now was just curious if anyone else had this issue
2020-10-28T06:16:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> She is using flatpak for now
2020-10-28T09:30:52 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> anyone has commit access? can someone update sfeed (i noticed sfeed_curses) was updated already, thanks :)
2020-10-28T09:31:13 #kisslinux <Evil_Bob> just a version and checksum bump, no other changes required
2020-10-28T11:51:13 #kisslinux <midfavila_> Nice rounded borders muevoid
2020-10-28T11:51:36 #kisslinux <midfavila_> I'm still hoping for FVWM to introduce rounded windows sometime. Would be nice.
2020-10-28T13:44:26 #kisslinux <midfavila_> Not really Linux, but I think some of you will find this paper interesting https://sel4.systems/About/seL4-whitepaper.pdf
2020-10-28T17:12:21 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dylanaraps: what do you think about a gemini capsule for k1ss.org?
2020-10-28T17:12:26 #kisslinux <kiedtl> oh, he left
2020-10-28T17:27:52 #kisslinux <uhrenmacher> hello K1ss people
2020-10-28T17:29:06 #kisslinux <kiedtl> sup
2020-10-28T17:29:39 #kisslinux <nerditup> hi
2020-10-28T17:46:08 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hello
2020-10-28T17:46:42 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> what is a gemini capsule?
2020-10-28T18:05:43 #kisslinux <kiedtl> https://gemini.circumlunar.space
2020-10-28T18:05:54 #kisslinux <kiedtl> a 'capsule' is gemini website :)
2020-10-28T18:21:32 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i see, like gopher
2020-10-28T18:35:51 #kisslinux <nerditup> How does one create a Gemini capsule?
2020-10-28T18:36:12 #kisslinux <nerditup> Would this create duplicated efforts when updating the website?
2020-10-28T18:40:01 #kisslinux <kqz> duplication could be avoided using https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/kineto/ (haven't tested this myself though)
2020-10-28T18:40:27 #kisslinux <micr0> Hey yall, I made a little utility called kiss-steal. It tries to grab other musl-based distro's build scripts. You can install with kiss b kiss-steal if you have the jedahan repo. Source is up here https://raw.githubusercontent.com/jedahan/kiss-repo/main/kiss-steal/files/kiss-steal .
2020-10-28T18:42:00 #kisslinux <micr0> Feel free to make PRs to pull other build scripts
2020-10-28T20:31:50 #kisslinux <kiedtl> nerditup: yeah, was just checking how the k1ss website is generated and apparently we'd have to maintain a separate version of the website in gemtext if we want a gemini capsule.
2020-10-28T20:31:57 #kisslinux <kiedtl> and the wiki
2020-10-28T20:32:33 #kisslinux <kiedtl> unless, of course, we maintain only a gemini version of the website and convert it to html later on (either using a script or a gemini-to-http proxy)
2020-10-28T20:40:41 #kisslinux <nerditup> sounds like I need to learn more about Gemini :)
2020-10-28T20:44:11 #kisslinux <kiedtl> gemini's fun :)
2020-10-28T21:40:30 #kisslinux <micr0> neat, amfora is already package for kiss
2020-10-28T21:43:19 #kisslinux <micr0> omg, the gemini space is just... fast
2020-10-28T21:43:25 #kisslinux <micr0> comfy and fast
2020-10-28T21:44:24 #kisslinux <micr0> also the first creative writing i saw is very neuromancer-y
2020-10-28T21:44:35 #kisslinux <micr0> but maybe thats my bias showing since i finally got around to reading it a week ago
2020-10-28T21:45:02 #kisslinux <E5ten> neuromancer is so good lol
2020-10-28T21:45:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> my favourite book
2020-10-28T21:46:17 #kisslinux <micr0> Theres a barbershop I passed by also last week called Steppin Razor
2020-10-28T21:46:23 #kisslinux <micr0> Lit up, appropriately, in bright neon
2020-10-28T22:02:08 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> <E5ten "neuromancer is so good lol"> interesting. may have to check that one out. the last good sci fi read i had was either Dune or Hyperion
2020-10-28T22:02:30 #kisslinux <micr0> Dune is good. Been years since I read it though.
2020-10-28T22:02:31 #kisslinux <mcpcpc[m]> so it has been a while. lol
2020-10-28T22:02:56 #kisslinux <E5ten> <micr0 "Theres a barbershop I passed by "> very nice
2020-10-28T22:03:19 #kisslinux <micr0> My favorite by Herbert is Dosadi Experiment, then Destination: VOID, then Dune
2020-10-28T22:38:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone have an opinion on mpd vs something more simple like either mpv or cmus?
2020-10-28T22:39:47 #kisslinux <micr0> mpv is way more standalone, it just plays files. you would probably wanna use cli / file browsing utils + mpv to get what you would quickly and nicely with an mpd client
2020-10-28T22:39:59 #kisslinux <micr0> (does it even have playlists?)
2020-10-28T22:40:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> I like mpd I just hate the boost requirement
2020-10-28T22:40:08 #kisslinux <micr0> I liked cmus a lot when i tried it. Pretty simple.
2020-10-28T22:40:41 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid well maybe submit a patch?
2020-10-28T22:40:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would have no idea where to even start with that
2020-10-28T22:40:55 #kisslinux <micr0> i dunno i dont care too much what lang other people use to make software
2020-10-28T22:41:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't know too much abt c++
2020-10-28T22:41:13 #kisslinux <micr0> muevoid well why do you feel strongly about boost then?
2020-10-28T22:41:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> Long compile times mainly
2020-10-28T22:42:46 #kisslinux <micr0> Similar to *most* non-trivial Rust projects, C++ usually has long compile times.
2020-10-28T22:43:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> I also don't use rust at all :)
2020-10-28T22:43:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not too big of an issue will just use cmus
2020-10-28T22:43:25 #kisslinux <micr0> Yeah I'm just saying, isn't cmus a c++ project?
2020-10-28T22:43:40 #kisslinux <micr0> oh, its pure C
2020-10-28T22:43:45 #kisslinux <micr0> should be quicker, generally
2020-10-28T22:44:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't have a problem with c++ I prefer c but boost in specific I don't like
2020-10-28T22:44:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's like glib with c
2020-10-28T22:44:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Just persosnal preference
2020-10-28T22:44:29 #kisslinux <muevoid> I can avoid boost but can't avoid glib
2020-10-28T22:58:39 #kisslinux <dilynm> Kde has the loosest dependency on kdoctools and I love it
2020-10-28T22:58:52 #kisslinux <dilynm> Just a flurry of seds and it's basically gone
2020-10-28T23:14:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilynm do you use mpd?
2020-10-28T23:15:16 #kisslinux <allbombson> Ping from xmpp
2020-10-28T23:15:24 #kisslinux <dilynm> Seems excessive
2020-10-28T23:15:36 #kisslinux <dilynm> I just print the notes and read it. Then I imagine the music (:
2020-10-28T23:16:10 #kisslinux <dilynm> I use mpv when I listen on my laptop, but I usually just use my phone. Why?
2020-10-28T23:21:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilynm was just wondering since I saw your yambar have libmpdclient
2020-10-28T23:21:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm assuming you can't build without it then?
2020-10-28T23:25:02 #kisslinux <dilynm> I didn't bother to check, but that dep is just for the mpd block
2020-10-28T23:25:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> gotcha may try to get rid of it then
2020-10-28T23:25:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you still use yambar it seems nice
2020-10-28T23:26:53 #kisslinux <allbombson> Test
2020-10-28T23:27:00 #kisslinux <allbombson> Test 123 from xmpp
2020-10-28T23:27:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> xmpp that sounds familiar is that a chat protocol?
2020-10-28T23:27:20 #kisslinux <allbombson> Yes
2020-10-28T23:27:23 #kisslinux <allbombson> Haha it worked
2020-10-28T23:27:39 #kisslinux <allbombson> Yeah xmpp is a chat protocol
2020-10-28T23:28:55 #kisslinux <kiedtl> If anyone's interested in seeing my attempt at converting the KISS website to gemtext, see gemini://tilde.team/~kiedtl/k1ss/docs/
2020-10-28T23:29:03 #kisslinux <kiedtl> Feedback would be very welcome!
2020-10-28T23:29:04 #kisslinux <dilynm> I installed it just to take a peak, it's fine enough. Seems more simple than polybar. But I don't use bars haha
2020-10-28T23:29:20 #kisslinux <dilynm> I need a way to browse gemini sites...
2020-10-28T23:29:24 #kisslinux <kiedtl> amfora is nice
2020-10-28T23:29:29 #kisslinux <kiedtl> and afaik it's in the repos
2020-10-28T23:29:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> there's also a list of gemini-to-http proxys at https://gemini.circumlunar.space
2020-10-28T23:30:13 #kisslinux <allbombson> What's gemini
2020-10-28T23:30:20 #kisslinux <allbombson> I assume its some gopher type thing
2020-10-28T23:30:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> A web protocol
2020-10-28T23:30:23 #kisslinux <kiedtl> It's a protocol, similar to gopher
2020-10-28T23:30:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah like gopher
2020-10-28T23:30:28 #kisslinux <kiedtl> but heavier than gopher
2020-10-28T23:30:30 #kisslinux <allbombson> Why not just use gopher tho
2020-10-28T23:30:39 #kisslinux <kiedtl> gemini has some nice formatting features
2020-10-28T23:30:44 #kisslinux <allbombson> Ah
2020-10-28T23:30:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Gopher isn't without it's issues as well
2020-10-28T23:31:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> The main chat server you can see everyone who connects and what they search
2020-10-28T23:31:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> iirc
2020-10-28T23:31:17 #kisslinux <kiedtl> not that gemini is perfect. as is it has no support for inline links, nested lists, etc
2020-10-28T23:31:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> So not gopher per say
2020-10-28T23:31:59 #kisslinux <allbombson> I see
2020-10-28T23:32:07 #kisslinux <dilynm> Lol the big fancy border is embedded in a scrollbox on mobile but stretches halfway across the screen on desktop view
2020-10-28T23:33:20 #kisslinux <kiedtl> the one on the main k1ss page?
2020-10-28T23:33:26 #kisslinux <dilynm> Mmhm
2020-10-28T23:33:32 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm kinda wondering whether I should make it smaller
2020-10-28T23:33:35 #kisslinux <dilynm> That big fancy box logo
2020-10-28T23:33:59 #kisslinux <dilynm> Let me pull it up on my laptop to see what it looks like
2020-10-28T23:34:15 #kisslinux * kiedtl gtg, will be back in two hours
2020-10-28T23:35:04 #kisslinux <kiedtl> note, only the contact, donate, faq, guidestones is converted
2020-10-28T23:35:05 #kisslinux <dilynm> It's mad worse on an actual computer
2020-10-28T23:35:09 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'm working on the install page
2020-10-28T23:35:10 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hmm
2020-10-28T23:35:15 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I'll check back on that
2020-10-28T23:35:51 #kisslinux <dilynm> But otherwise it looks fine enough
2020-10-28T23:36:31 #kisslinux <kiedtl> hm ok
2020-10-28T23:36:38 #kisslinux <kiedtl> I had to remove the indexes in the FAQ and install
2020-10-28T23:36:52 #kisslinux <kiedtl> since gemini doesn't support anchors.
2020-10-28T23:36:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> You can easily get rid of the mpd dep from yambar by basically just ripping it out
2020-10-28T23:37:09 #kisslinux <kiedtl> dilynm: would you mind sending a screenshot of the main page from your laptop?
2020-10-28T23:37:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> For sure
2020-10-28T23:39:33 #kisslinux <dilynm> imgur.com/vG18L8c
2020-10-28T23:43:48 #kisslinux <nerditup> Neato desktop
2020-10-28T23:44:46 #kisslinux <dilynm> The wallpaper was off entered and I only just now noticed
2020-10-28T23:44:48 #kisslinux <dilynm> But ty
2020-10-28T23:59:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> I really like how this rice is coming along https://0x0.st/ik6l.png