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2020-08-16T01:04:37 #kisslinux <konimex> dilynm: yeah, the glib patch is on 2.65.1 already
2020-08-16T01:04:49 #kisslinux <konimex> but it's marked as development release for some reason
2020-08-16T01:47:22 #kisslinux <E5ten> illiliti: in the hotplugging branch in udev_device_new_from_file you do the same strchr twice, you should probably change the if where you do it to assign val to the strchr return value, and then if it succeeds just increment val instead of redoing the strchr
2020-08-16T01:48:09 #kisslinux <E5ten> Oh and then before you increment var, set *var to 0 to avoid the strcspn right after
2020-08-16T01:48:34 #kisslinux <E5ten> s/var/val/g
2020-08-16T01:55:36 #kisslinux <E5ten> Also in udev_monitor_new_from_netlink can't you use 0777 as the mode argument to mkdir instead of a separate chmod call?
2020-08-16T03:15:58 #kisslinux <spageen> how on earth is tiny core linux only 11mb
2020-08-16T03:16:08 #kisslinux <spageen> surely xorg alone would take up more than 11mb
2020-08-16T09:23:55 #kisslinux <magenbluten> spageen: squashfs + compression?
2020-08-16T09:25:18 #kisslinux <illiliti> E5ten: i can't use just mkdir because of umask
2020-08-16T09:27:51 #kisslinux <illiliti> umask isn't thread safe. i can't simply reset umask to 0 and restore previous value
2020-08-16T09:28:30 #kisslinux <spageen> ah yes, compression
2020-08-16T09:28:35 #kisslinux <spageen> that's probably how they do it
2020-08-16T10:22:53 #kisslinux <spageen> kiss is working great on my headless home server
2020-08-16T10:23:05 #kisslinux <spageen> idling at 23mb of ram :)
2020-08-16T10:23:27 #kisslinux <j`ey> what does it serve?
2020-08-16T10:24:06 #kisslinux <spageen> right now only files
2020-08-16T10:24:12 #kisslinux <spageen> and I beam into irc using GNU screen
2020-08-16T10:24:51 #kisslinux <spageen> the plan is to host a UX portfolio site and a little matrix chat
2020-08-16T10:25:23 #kisslinux <spageen> it's also librebooted!
2020-08-16T12:30:40 #kisslinux <illiliti> dylanaraps: https://github.com/kisslinux/repo/commit/1151d1fd05427ceb46da958a7205e985bbf80ce4 << i don't like that change
2020-08-16T12:30:47 #kisslinux <illiliti> imho user should have a choice even if libudev-zero is better
2020-08-16T12:34:42 #kisslinux <j`ey> or a choice of nothing at all
2020-08-16T12:34:47 #kisslinux <spageen> is the "replacing udev" wiki page null & void seeing as udev is mandatory now?
2020-08-16T12:35:16 #kisslinux <spageen> anyway, you could do what I do and roll back libinput to before that commit
2020-08-16T12:36:33 #kisslinux <j`ey> that's a bit annoying, if you want to stay updated
2020-08-16T12:37:37 #kisslinux <spageen> I'm sure it's a libinput thing rather than a dylan thing
2020-08-16T12:38:54 #kisslinux <j`ey> I guess it might be annoying to keep that patch around
2020-08-16T12:54:33 #kisslinux <illiliti> spageen: udev is not mandatory anymore with libudev-zero
2020-08-16T12:54:48 #kisslinux <illiliti> you can use whatever device manager you want(including eudev itself with some linker hacks) or not use at all.
2020-08-16T12:55:19 #kisslinux <illiliti> j`ey: choice of nothing is almost impossible in "modern linux"
2020-08-16T12:58:51 #kisslinux <j`ey> yeah, I will probably choose libudev-zero
2020-08-16T12:59:40 #kisslinux <j`ey> illiliti: so what is your issue with that change? the users should have what choice?
2020-08-16T13:00:05 #kisslinux <spageen> I should actually read up on what libudev-zero actually is
2020-08-16T13:00:33 #kisslinux <j`ey> daemonless udev replacement
2020-08-16T13:02:41 #kisslinux <spageen> oh so it's not actually udev
2020-08-16T13:02:53 #kisslinux <spageen> does it need a udev-style config?
2020-08-16T13:08:46 #kisslinux <illiliti> j`ey: there is no issues with that change. it's just my opinion
2020-08-16T13:08:59 #kisslinux <illiliti> spageen: what do you mean ?
2020-08-16T13:10:35 #kisslinux <j`ey> illiliti: im trying to understand what you meant by "imho user should have a choice even if libudev-zero is better"
2020-08-16T13:11:05 #kisslinux <j`ey> oh, you meant that mdev etc would fail this check?
2020-08-16T13:11:37 #kisslinux <illiliti> i meant static configuration
2020-08-16T13:27:28 #kisslinux <spageen> in other words, can I keep using my mdev.conf with libudev-zero?
2020-08-16T13:27:39 #kisslinux <spageen> just trying to make sense of what it is
2020-08-16T13:28:17 #kisslinux <spageen> also just realised you're the author. That's neat
2020-08-16T13:28:44 #kisslinux <illiliti> yes! you can
2020-08-16T13:28:57 #kisslinux <spageen> :)
2020-08-16T14:51:17 #kisslinux <claudia02> Nice! A post on unixporn, focusing on tty/framebuffer https://old.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/iar6g2/fbpadtty_xorgwayland_suck/
2020-08-16T15:33:10 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> claudia02: btw did you ever manage to fix your non-accelerating cpu?
2020-08-16T15:33:37 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> has anyone noticed in firefox latest that pip is brokenish?
2020-08-16T15:34:03 #kisslinux <claudia02> xzcvczx: No. I just made a script to set the performance governor.
2020-08-16T15:34:57 #kisslinux <claudia02> I also spent not much time to investigate in occurance with linux 5.8 yet.
2020-08-16T15:35:28 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> hmmm ok its firefox esr bin thats broke for me
2020-08-16T15:35:31 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> lets try non-esr
2020-08-16T15:39:25 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> o_O why does firefox-bin require firefox-esr-bin
2020-08-16T15:39:56 #kisslinux <xzcvczx> nvm me being dummy
2020-08-16T16:31:22 #kisslinux <micr0> o/
2020-08-16T18:51:27 #kisslinux <j`ey> jedavies: took 43mins to build 'xz' in qemu.. I think I'd rather spend the time to try setup cross compiling
2020-08-16T19:01:28 #kisslinux <himmalerin> for packages that are built with meson should I have `meson make` in the depends file?
2020-08-16T19:05:47 #kisslinux <micr0> so, I'm pretty happy with my repository packages now, I am wondering if I should split it out of jedahan. any thoughts? see https://github.com/jedahan/kiss-repo/blob/main/repo-fonts/build and https://github.com/jedahan/kiss-repo/blob/main/repo-community/build
2020-08-16T19:06:24 #kisslinux <micr0> the idea is I can now specify repositories as dependencies for packages
2020-08-16T19:06:24 #kisslinux <jedavies> j`ey: do you have the option of starting from a musl-based distro like alpine or void? Don't have to cross compile then, just change a few build files.
2020-08-16T19:06:54 #kisslinux <j`ey> jedavies: I was using cross compile as a way to speed it up
2020-08-16T19:07:01 #kisslinux <j`ey> *was looking at
2020-08-16T19:08:11 #kisslinux <jedavies> aah ok, the device is too slow to compile software itself?
2020-08-16T19:08:30 #kisslinux <j`ey> it's a single core v6 with only 512mb ram
2020-08-16T23:14:26 #kisslinux <dilynm> The strange quirks I run into on this system get stranger and quirkier every day
2020-08-16T23:14:47 #kisslinux <dilynm> Kernel build halts at linking objtool
2020-08-16T23:15:00 #kisslinux <dilynm> Building bison... Prompts me for my password during configure...
2020-08-16T23:15:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> I think my laptop is haunted
2020-08-16T23:33:50 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilynm: while fighting outragous dragons, your 'kiss' repo logo is wrong formatted :P