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2020-04-20T00:00:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I just changed that
2020-04-20T00:00:14 #kisslinux <dilyn> claudio02: I'll do that after a bit more looking but yeah it'll probably end up happening
2020-04-20T00:00:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> What package are you building?
2020-04-20T00:00:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im packaging raylib
2020-04-20T00:00:53 #kisslinux <muevoid> It built fine manually changing the Makefile by hamnd
2020-04-20T00:00:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> hand*
2020-04-20T00:03:54 #kisslinux <dilyn> Try using CMake?
2020-04-20T00:05:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk i'll try here in a few
2020-04-20T00:07:11 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is cmake better then makefiles i'm not too familiar with different build systems
2020-04-20T00:08:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> Cmake worked however how do I uninstall with cmake? Sudo make uninstall does not work
2020-04-20T00:10:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is xargs rm < install_manifest.txt good enough or is there a better alternative
2020-04-20T00:16:07 #kisslinux <claudia02> muevoid: better dont install without the packagemanager
2020-04-20T00:16:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> when your handbuild suceed try to package it and then install
2020-04-20T00:16:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah handbuilt worked and now I can run kiss b for the package
2020-04-20T00:17:03 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is there any steps I should take to make sure it can be removed?
2020-04-20T00:18:01 #kisslinux <dilyn> What do you mean?
2020-04-20T00:18:24 #kisslinux <muevoid> I didn't know that the package manager handled the removal of packages.
2020-04-20T00:18:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Cmake seems quite a bit slower then makefiles
2020-04-20T00:20:36 #kisslinux <dilyn> That's the beauty of a package manager
2020-04-20T00:21:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> I hate CMake but when the devs ship one it's usually just better to use that (:
2020-04-20T00:21:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> Do you prefer a different build system like meson/ninja
2020-04-20T00:21:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Or do you prefer makefiles
2020-04-20T00:23:56 #kisslinux <konimex> prefer cmake/meson if the Makefile requires GNU Make (at least for me anyway)
2020-04-20T00:24:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> There's just less to know when it comes to Makefiles imo
2020-04-20T00:24:33 #kisslinux <dilyn> Buuuuttt
2020-04-20T00:24:47 #kisslinux <dilyn> I vastly prefer CMake and others to really dumb things like bootstrap scripts
2020-04-20T00:24:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> Like, why is Waf
2020-04-20T00:25:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> lol
2020-04-20T00:25:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> What should I do if I want to package something but no tarball is provided
2020-04-20T00:25:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> Like it's a git repo?
2020-04-20T00:25:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-04-20T00:26:10 #kisslinux <dilyn> git+$url
2020-04-20T00:26:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> https://k1ss.org/package-system
2020-04-20T00:26:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah thanks
2020-04-20T00:26:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> I don't know how I didnt see this
2020-04-20T00:26:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Ofc
2020-04-20T00:27:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Also check the style guide
2020-04-20T00:27:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I noticed that just didn't see package system
2020-04-20T00:28:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> for cmake if it requires more flags then what he has on there do you just do  newline then -DSHARED=ON for example
2020-04-20T00:30:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> Mmhmm
2020-04-20T00:31:40 #kisslinux <muevoid> Rn i'm working on packaging tinyramfs. It has a static config in the source directory do I create a file in files/config for example?
2020-04-20T00:39:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> Sure
2020-04-20T00:39:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Or a patch
2020-04-20T00:39:16 #kisslinux <dilyn> But probably just your own would good
2020-04-20T00:39:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> It's up to you mainly because illiliti would submit it to community when it's done himself
2020-04-20T00:39:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think maybe having a post-install script saying edit /etc/tinyramfs/config to your needs
2020-04-20T00:40:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> Also works
2020-04-20T00:40:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would just do echo "Edit /etc/tinyramfs/config to your needs" correct?
2020-04-20T00:41:12 #kisslinux <dilyn> Sure
2020-04-20T00:41:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> I do this https://github.com/dilyn-corner/KISS-me/blob/master/blis/post-install
2020-04-20T00:42:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk i'll do that then
2020-04-20T00:42:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm not too great with shell scripting
2020-04-20T00:45:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm it says /usr/bin/kiss: line 1072: /var/db/kiss/installed/tinyramfs/post-install: not found
2020-04-20T00:51:04 #kisslinux <dilyn> Did you make it executables
2020-04-20T00:51:15 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I did chmod +x post-install
2020-04-20T00:51:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Then added #!bin/sh -e at the top
2020-04-20T00:55:46 #kisslinux <konimex> should be #!/bin/sh -e
2020-04-20T00:58:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah my mistake
2020-04-20T01:04:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Why is github prefered for all kiss repos over something like gitlab? Is it just do to it being the most popular
2020-04-20T01:08:59 #kisslinux <muevoid> What web browser do you use dilyn?
2020-04-20T01:09:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> Falkon
2020-04-20T01:09:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> I use Firefox in my arch-chroot tho xD
2020-04-20T01:09:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> But that's just for work
2020-04-20T01:10:06 #kisslinux <muevoid> U said you got qt5 to compile after running it a ton right?
2020-04-20T01:11:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> Just a few times
2020-04-20T01:11:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> Ccache helps
2020-04-20T01:11:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> How do i use ccache?
2020-04-20T01:12:00 #kisslinux <muevoid> I ran the command it told me to however it still restarts everytime
2020-04-20T01:12:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> echo $PATH ?
2020-04-20T01:12:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yee
2020-04-20T01:13:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> The only reason I'm reticent to file a bug report is I got to work in short order but if you're having continuous difficulty that changes things
2020-04-20T01:13:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache/bin:$PATH
2020-04-20T01:13:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> That is the command I run
2020-04-20T01:15:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan01: kiss line 1239, all the *<character>*| things can be replaced with *[][!*]*
2020-04-20T01:15:43 #kisslinux <E5ten> on my end the formatting of that got fucked up because of the *s hopefully that's just riot being dumb and it came out right for you lol
2020-04-20T01:19:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm going to try using surf because I just realised that webkit2gtk is compiled without media support
2020-04-20T01:19:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'll probably have to package gstreamer in my own repo thoug
2020-04-20T01:19:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> though*
2020-04-20T01:43:49 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone know why this error would happen? "ninja: chdir: No such file or directory"
2020-04-20T01:52:36 #kisslinux <lieu> muevoid: is that during a build?
2020-04-20T01:52:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yes that is during a build
2020-04-20T01:52:51 #kisslinux <lieu> s/is/does/g
2020-04-20T01:54:03 #kisslinux <lieu> try creating the directory beforehand
2020-04-20T01:54:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> What directory?
2020-04-20T01:54:32 #kisslinux <lieu> The chdir?
2020-04-20T01:54:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah
2020-04-20T01:55:36 #kisslinux <lieu> don't forget the $1 though, assuming that that's a kiss build
2020-04-20T01:56:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah I have the $1
2020-04-20T01:56:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm attempting to package gstreamer,gst-plugins-base,and gst-plugins-bad
2020-04-20T01:58:49 #kisslinux <lieu> I see, the surf stuff, no? :D
2020-04-20T01:59:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yep trying to get youtube working on surf
2020-04-20T02:10:05 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> my qt5 build is failing
2020-04-20T02:10:38 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> was giving me complaints about perl at first, is that a dependency? i installed perl, now there are other errors
2020-04-20T02:12:38 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> where do i get the build fail log?
2020-04-20T02:13:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Dilyn the maintainer said it took a few times of compiling for his to compile I had the same issue.
2020-04-20T02:15:53 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> ah ok, so just remove and rebuild
2020-04-20T02:17:07 #kisslinux <dilyn> Logs are in ~/.cache/kiss/logs
2020-04-20T02:18:46 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> great thanks, trying kiss again on a Thinkpad X60
2020-04-20T02:51:25 #kisslinux <dilyn> Perl is a make depends of qt5
2020-04-20T02:51:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> Qt5 has many deps
2020-04-20T02:52:09 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is gettext on kiss?
2020-04-20T02:55:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> Oh nevermind
2020-04-20T02:56:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm stupid
2020-04-20T03:08:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im crossing my fingers I believe I got webkit2gtk to compile
2020-04-20T03:08:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> With video and audio support*
2020-04-20T03:29:41 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmm picom gives me a segmentation fault
2020-04-20T04:44:21 #kisslinux <adamantium[m]> sup chan
2020-04-20T04:52:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> dilyn I got the patch to work for raylib
2020-04-20T04:53:15 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylan01: By the way, I checked out the line E5ten mentioned, and I don't think `case $@` would be defined behavior in POSIX
2020-04-20T04:53:40 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Since $@ is designed to split into fields and field-splitting isn't performed there
2020-04-20T04:57:01 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, I thought you converted to `shift "$(($# ? 1 : 0))"` :P
2020-04-20T04:57:23 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Any reason why you quote arithmetic expansion, by the way? Or is it just personal preference?
2020-04-20T05:02:13 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Is there any reason to set LANG as well as LC_ALL?
2020-04-20T05:05:10 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Any reason why you always store old_ifs and reset to it instead of unsetting IFS? I thought it might be in case IFS was already set to somewhere else in the function's caller, but you store it in main() here
2020-04-20T05:09:39 #kisslinux <Crestwave> `order=; redro=; deps=` | You could use `order= redro= deps=` instead AFAIK
2020-04-20T05:25:37 #kisslinux <Crestwave> `! contains "$*" "$pkg" || {` | Any reason why not &&?
2020-04-20T05:25:56 #kisslinux <konimex> dylan: a note on picom: while repology lists it as outdated, 8.r2 is an rc release, thus I'm not updating it until it goes 8 proper
2020-04-20T05:26:49 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, TIL that you can do `for var do { printf '%sn' "$var"; } done`. Where did you even find that trick?
2020-04-20T05:59:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> Crestwave: Fixed the first two, thanks.
2020-04-20T06:00:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> I quote arithmetic expansion out of habit I guess. Does quoting not prevent word-splitting (even if useless)? Surely there'd be some kind of benefit there? :P
2020-04-20T06:00:42 #kisslinux <dylan02> I set LANG as LC_
2020-04-20T06:00:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> oops
2020-04-20T06:00:56 #kisslinux <dylan02> I set LANG as LC_ALL doesn't seem to cover everything(
2020-04-20T06:00:58 #kisslinux <dylan02> ?)
2020-04-20T06:01:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> Or it didn't when I used the same in Neofetch.
2020-04-20T06:01:14 #kisslinux <dylan02> Worth looking into I guess.
2020-04-20T06:01:31 #kisslinux <dylan02> re, old_IFS; Can I just unset it? That'd be awesome.
2020-04-20T06:02:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> re, var= var= var=; Shellcheck complains so I don't do it.
2020-04-20T06:03:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> re, ! ||; I do this to avoid 'set -e' bailing out here if the test fails. I try to make all tests check for failure to avoid this (when it causes issues).
2020-04-20T06:05:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> konimex: re, picom; That's fine. Might be worth opening an issue on repology's GitHub though it's not too important.
2020-04-20T06:21:22 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I don't think there's any use in quoting arithmetic expansion, but it's fine either way :P
2020-04-20T06:21:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Just mentioned it because you said the something similar about case before and seem to have moved away from it now
2020-04-20T06:22:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> True
2020-04-20T06:22:50 #kisslinux <Crestwave> As far as I know, LC_ALL also overrides LANG
2020-04-20T06:23:29 #kisslinux <Crestwave> "The value of this variable overrides the LC_* variables and LANG, as described in XBD Environment Variables." (from POSIX)
2020-04-20T06:23:44 #kisslinux <Crestwave> That's from shell command language, though
2020-04-20T06:24:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Unsetting IFS will make it function as the default
2020-04-20T06:24:24 #kisslinux <Crestwave> "If IFS is not set, it shall behave as normal for an unset variable, except that field splitting by the shell and line splitting by the read utility shall be performed as if the value of IFS is <space> <tab> <newline>; see Field Splitting."
2020-04-20T06:25:05 #kisslinux <Crestwave> "re, ! ||; I do this to avoid 'set -e' bailing out here if the test fails." | set -e is disabled on the left side of &&
2020-04-20T06:26:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> Neat, thanks. I'll play around with ! ||.
2020-04-20T06:26:52 #kisslinux <dylan02> Getting rid of old_IFS will feel good
2020-04-20T06:28:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll drop LANG=C as well.
2020-04-20T06:29:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> Fixed the ! ||, thanks.
2020-04-20T06:35:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> I finally got qt5 to compile
2020-04-20T06:36:16 #kisslinux <muevoid> Since youtube still wouldn't work on webkit2gtk with the new flags
2020-04-20T06:37:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> If anyone else on here uses picom does anyone else get a segmentation fault while trying to run it in terminal?
2020-04-20T06:40:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> konimex:
2020-04-20T06:42:01 #kisslinux <muevoid> ls
2020-04-20T06:42:27 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm uploading firefox-bin right now btw
2020-04-20T06:42:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Awesome
2020-04-20T06:42:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nice to have the option
2020-04-20T06:42:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> We will see if falkon will compile
2020-04-20T06:42:55 #kisslinux <konimex> nope
2020-04-20T06:43:00 #kisslinux <konimex> no segfaults from my end
2020-04-20T06:43:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> Hmmmm
2020-04-20T06:43:26 #kisslinux <muevoid> Could u upload your config for picom?
2020-04-20T06:44:43 #kisslinux <konimex> two secs
2020-04-20T06:44:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> No rush just want to see if that is the issue
2020-04-20T06:46:35 #kisslinux <konimex> https://termbin.com/3tdce
2020-04-20T06:47:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah yep that was issue
2020-04-20T06:47:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> the issue*
2020-04-20T06:47:35 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does xsetroot not work with picom?
2020-04-20T06:49:20 #kisslinux <konimex> no idea, I don't use xsetroot
2020-04-20T06:49:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> What do you use?
2020-04-20T06:54:00 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan02: You may want to revert that LANG commit. LC_ALL only applies to LC_* (glibc).
2020-04-20T06:56:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> Alrighty. It can't hurt anyway.
2020-04-20T06:56:50 #kisslinux <dylan02> firefox-bin is taking its time to upload. Should be done in 15-20 minutes now.
2020-04-20T06:57:01 #kisslinux <konimex> feh
2020-04-20T06:57:10 #kisslinux <muevoid> ah
2020-04-20T06:57:52 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan02: Is webrtc enabled?
2020-04-20T06:58:22 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yes
2020-04-20T06:58:44 #kisslinux <lieu> Nice.
2020-04-20T07:00:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Dylan02 will you change it so the default mozconfig has webrtc enabled?
2020-04-20T07:00:26 #kisslinux <dylan02> I will
2020-04-20T07:00:47 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'm thinking I may just start compiling firefox myself
2020-04-20T07:01:29 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's not too bad
2020-04-20T07:01:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> I let it run while I'm out of the house
2020-04-20T07:01:44 #kisslinux <muevoid> My main gripe is just having rust installed
2020-04-20T07:02:05 #kisslinux <muevoid> I actually don't think rust is that bad other then trademark issues and cargo.
2020-04-20T07:02:18 #kisslinux <muevoid> I prefer C and C++ however though
2020-04-20T07:02:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> rust is only needed during build so you can install it, build firefox and then remove it.
2020-04-20T07:02:50 #kisslinux <dylan02> It updates monthly though..
2020-04-20T07:02:54 #kisslinux <muevoid> I'll probably just keep it installed for updates
2020-04-20T07:02:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Yeah
2020-04-20T07:03:02 #kisslinux <dylan02> You need to build nodejs for Firefox too
2020-04-20T07:03:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> Which updates monthly as well :P
2020-04-20T07:03:28 #kisslinux <dylan02> This is my new system for those wondering. https://u.teknik.io/vJ6SQ.jpg
2020-04-20T07:04:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Looks nice
2020-04-20T07:04:27 #kisslinux <muevoid> Thats firefox correct?
2020-04-20T07:04:39 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yeah
2020-04-20T07:05:42 #kisslinux <muevoid> How'd you get rid of the X at the top right?
2020-04-20T07:06:10 #kisslinux <dylan02> Which X?
2020-04-20T07:06:33 #kisslinux <muevoid> The close thing that is usually on windows I didn't know you could get rid of it regardless of what wm you are on
2020-04-20T07:06:51 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-04-20T07:06:54 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'm using sowm
2020-04-20T07:07:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah
2020-04-20T07:07:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> The titlebar is just a window set to a color
2020-04-20T07:07:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> I just switched over to sowm
2020-04-20T07:07:14 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's not something usable yet :P
2020-04-20T07:07:20 #kisslinux <dylan02> Nice
2020-04-20T07:07:25 #kisslinux <muevoid> I think I might patch in rounded corners
2020-04-20T07:07:28 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lieu: I guess it can't hurt, but do you have a source for that?
2020-04-20T07:07:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Locale-Categories.html says otherwise
2020-04-20T07:07:45 #kisslinux <dylan02> I feel as though it'll become a meme that KISS users all use sowm + st. ;)
2020-04-20T07:07:55 #kisslinux <muevoid> Probably lol
2020-04-20T07:08:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> I use KISS btw
2020-04-20T07:08:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> I hope this distro gets more attention it really deserves it
2020-04-20T07:11:21 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://termbin.com/eijaz Am I doing something wrong in this build file? It attempts to install while building
2020-04-20T07:11:34 #kisslinux <lieu> Crestwave: https://termbin.com/xu8o
2020-04-20T07:13:04 #kisslinux <lieu> I made a KISS glibc chroot based on LFS dev.
2020-04-20T07:14:29 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lieu: I'm guessing that's because LANG is a default for if a category is unset, so there's no need to override it
2020-04-20T07:14:31 #kisslinux <abi`> muevoid: the makefile probably doesnt honor DESTDIR=
2020-04-20T07:14:57 #kisslinux <muevoid> Anyway to work around that?
2020-04-20T07:15:22 #kisslinux <abi`> fix the makefile :)
2020-04-20T07:15:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> Also it's strange cause if I compile it via hand it compiles fine with the same options
2020-04-20T07:19:07 #kisslinux <abi`> it probably behaves differently if it has already been built and not executed from a cleaned up / freshly extracted archive?
2020-04-20T07:20:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> It's not that large of an issue I am just compiling it manually for now and it doesn't have too many releases just was curious if anyone knew why. I may go back to trying to get cmake to work for it.
2020-04-20T07:28:10 #kisslinux <lieu> Crestwave: I'm not sure. But what I am sure is LC_ALL does not override LANG even if LANG is unset. And vice-versa.
2020-04-20T07:28:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> muevoid: Link to the sources for that package?
2020-04-20T07:29:04 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll see if I can fix the issue
2020-04-20T07:29:13 #kisslinux <lieu> I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. But that's what's happening.
2020-04-20T07:29:17 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://github.com/raysan5/raylib/archive/3.0.0.tar.gz
2020-04-20T07:29:36 #kisslinux <muevoid> I also have a patch for it
2020-04-20T07:29:58 #kisslinux <muevoid> https://termbin.com/v8v6m
2020-04-20T07:36:34 #kisslinux <lieu> https://termbin.com/oqvo
2020-04-20T07:36:57 #kisslinux <dylan02> lieu: I don't think that matters
2020-04-20T07:37:41 #kisslinux <dylan02> raylib supports DESTDIR
2020-04-20T07:38:44 #kisslinux <lieu> Yeah.
2020-04-20T07:40:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> How big is the download?
2020-04-20T07:40:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> 20MB and counting here
2020-04-20T07:42:04 #kisslinux <muevoid> Roughly 80MB I believe
2020-04-20T07:42:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> I didn't really think to mention it
2020-04-20T07:42:50 #kisslinux <dylan02> lol
2020-04-20T07:42:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> All good
2020-04-20T07:43:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> My net is just horrible
2020-04-20T07:43:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have really good internet so I didn't think to say anything lol
2020-04-20T07:46:37 #kisslinux <Crestwave> lieu: Yeah, even if we take that at face value and conclude that LC_ALL doesn't touch LANG, LANG's whole purpose is to set a default for unset LC_* categories. They were clearly set to LC_ALL in your example, so LANG is effectively useless.
2020-04-20T07:54:15 #kisslinux <dylan02> Here's raylib: https://termbin.com/qab8
2020-04-20T07:54:19 #kisslinux <dylan02> This works for me
2020-04-20T07:57:46 #kisslinux <dylan02> firefox-bin pushed.
2020-04-20T07:58:28 #kisslinux <muevoid> Awesome thanks for the help!
2020-04-20T08:59:30 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is it weird I use my laptop somewhat as a phone replacement?
2020-04-20T09:12:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dylan02: I'm not sure if your change was somehow intentional, but note that IFS only functions as the default space-tab-newline when unset, not set to null
2020-04-20T09:13:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> Ah
2020-04-20T09:25:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> dylan02 do you still accept screenshots for the website?
2020-04-20T09:31:37 #kisslinux <muevoid> How would I go about automatically logging into to tty after boot?
2020-04-20T10:07:36 #kisslinux <dylan02> meuvoid: Yeah
2020-04-20T10:07:59 #kisslinux <dylan02> meuvoid: In /etc/inittab
2020-04-20T10:08:01 #kisslinux <dylan02> tty1::respawn:/sbin/login -f dylan
2020-04-20T10:08:08 #kisslinux <dylan02> Change 'dylan' to your nick
2020-04-20T11:20:56 #kisslinux <fehawen> o/
2020-04-20T13:33:38 #kisslinux <merakor> dylan02: https://ckyln.com/files/kiss-no-ifs.patch
2020-04-20T13:33:48 #kisslinux <merakor> This is my take on removing old_ifs
2020-04-20T13:34:02 #kisslinux <merakor> Without unsetting the IFS variable, just using subshell
2020-04-20T13:36:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I don't see any subshells?
2020-04-20T13:36:27 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, have you tested this?
2020-04-20T13:37:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> IFS=: set -- $KISS_PATH doesn't seem to make any sense
2020-04-20T13:38:16 #kisslinux <merakor> Yes, I have tested this
2020-04-20T13:38:38 #kisslinux <merakor> And it is a subshell for the variable, meaning that the variable will not be preserved
2020-04-20T13:38:58 #kisslinux <Crestwave> That's not what a subshell is as far as I know. It's a temp binding
2020-04-20T13:39:13 #kisslinux <merakor> I thought the same
2020-04-20T13:39:22 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, using that on builtins in POSIX sets it in the current environment
2020-04-20T13:39:47 #kisslinux <Crestwave> E.g., `foo=bar :; echo $foo` will print bar
2020-04-20T13:40:04 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah but there is no semicolon here
2020-04-20T13:40:13 #kisslinux <merakor> That's the 'subshell' part of it
2020-04-20T13:40:18 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ??
2020-04-20T13:40:27 #kisslinux <merakor> Here is the thing
2020-04-20T13:40:27 #kisslinux <Crestwave> No, I'm executing foo=bar with the builtin :
2020-04-20T13:40:31 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Then it's still set after that
2020-04-20T13:40:36 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You can do foo=bar set --
2020-04-20T13:40:40 #kisslinux <Crestwave> and have the same result
2020-04-20T13:41:00 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Finally, you're trying to set it for test but the use of IFS there is for word splitting, which has nothing to do with set.
2020-04-20T13:41:03 #kisslinux <Crestwave> https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ#BashFAQ.2F104.Why_doesn.27t_foo.3Dbar_echo_.22.24foo.22_print_bar.3F
2020-04-20T13:41:23 #kisslinux <merakor> Why don't you try it out then?
2020-04-20T13:41:27 #kisslinux <merakor> It works
2020-04-20T13:41:53 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I don't use KISS
2020-04-20T13:42:10 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I don't know what you're doing to test it, but just try it out in an environment and see
2020-04-20T13:42:32 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Like, `IFS=: set --; echo "$IFS"`
2020-04-20T13:42:41 #kisslinux <merakor> I did that
2020-04-20T13:42:51 #kisslinux <Crestwave> In a POSIX shell (not bash)?
2020-04-20T13:42:58 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah I don't have bash
2020-04-20T13:43:06 #kisslinux <Crestwave> and the output was?
2020-04-20T13:43:16 #kisslinux <merakor> I have also added echo $IFS to the program itself and tried it out
2020-04-20T13:43:26 #kisslinux <merakor> It was the default IFS
2020-04-20T13:43:41 #kisslinux <Crestwave> You quoted it?
2020-04-20T13:43:55 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Also, `var=a:b; IFS=: set -- $var; echo "$1"`
2020-04-20T13:44:28 #kisslinux <merakor> If you use set to save the variable, of course it will stay
2020-04-20T13:44:46 #kisslinux <merakor> Oh
2020-04-20T13:44:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> No, the point of that example is that it yields "a:b", not "a" like it's supposed to
2020-04-20T13:45:29 #kisslinux <merakor> It outputs a
2020-04-20T13:45:54 #kisslinux <Crestwave> I am so confused how you're getting these results. Are you sure you didn't have IFS set to : beforehand?
2020-04-20T13:46:04 #kisslinux <merakor> No
2020-04-20T13:46:30 #kisslinux <merakor> Even after I did this IFS is still the default
2020-04-20T13:46:44 #kisslinux <Crestwave> What shell are you using
2020-04-20T13:46:56 #kisslinux <merakor> ash
2020-04-20T13:47:36 #kisslinux <merakor> I tried it in dash now
2020-04-20T13:47:40 #kisslinux <merakor> Still the same results
2020-04-20T13:48:33 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Try running https://github.com/Crestwave/snippets/blob/master/ifs.sh
2020-04-20T13:50:54 #kisslinux <Crestwave> merakor:
2020-04-20T13:50:59 #kisslinux <merakor> Trying
2020-04-20T13:51:34 #kisslinux <merakor> It outputs ':' 'a:b'
2020-04-20T13:51:42 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ...exactly my expected output
2020-04-20T13:51:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> It returns a:b for me (ksh)
2020-04-20T13:52:21 #kisslinux <Crestwave> merakor: I don't know how you messed it up in your interactive usage, but that's pretty much exactly that I had you run earlier
2020-04-20T13:52:51 #kisslinux <Crestwave> dilyn: No ':'?
2020-04-20T13:53:26 #kisslinux <merakor> I have used 'echo $IFS'
2020-04-20T13:53:40 #kisslinux <Crestwave> That, verbatim? Without quotes?
2020-04-20T13:53:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> The script returns :
2020-04-20T13:53:41 #kisslinux <dilyn> a:b
2020-04-20T13:53:48 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Yeah, that's the expected output
2020-04-20T13:54:03 #kisslinux <Crestwave> It's very defined POSIX behavior
2020-04-20T13:54:04 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay now wait a second
2020-04-20T13:54:12 #kisslinux <Crestwave> ?
2020-04-20T13:55:15 #kisslinux <merakor> Now when you told me to do var=a:b IFS=: set -- $var ...
2020-04-20T13:55:35 #kisslinux <merakor> IFS was still default
2020-04-20T13:55:41 #kisslinux <merakor> Even when quoted
2020-04-20T13:56:31 #kisslinux <merakor> Okay, it was a different operation then
2020-04-20T13:56:50 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Well, that one isn't *too* fringe behavior. Shells like Bash do set variables as a temp binding unless in POSIX mode. However, IFS should be modified in ash
2020-04-20T13:56:56 #kisslinux <Crestwave> What do you mean by a different operation?
2020-04-20T13:57:44 #kisslinux <merakor> You told me to try lots of examples, I don't remember which outputted the default IFS
2020-04-20T13:58:34 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Two examples that were copy and pastable, but okay. I think my point has been made, right?
2020-04-20T13:58:40 #kisslinux <merakor> But you're right the patch isn't good
2020-04-20T13:58:43 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah
2020-04-20T13:59:02 #kisslinux <Crestwave> Ok, night o/
2020-04-20T13:59:29 #kisslinux <merakor> Bye o/
2020-04-20T14:00:39 #kisslinux <E5ten> I was under the impression that variables were only supposed to say set for assignments like that when it's for keywords, as in "IFS=a set -- whatever" would leave IFS as default after that command, but "IFS=a for i in whatever; do..." would leave it set to a after that point
2020-04-20T14:01:55 #kisslinux <merakor> Yeah, I really thought the same
2020-04-20T15:52:08 #kisslinux <rirc0D3C5> I try building qt5 right now
2020-04-20T15:52:38 #kisslinux <claudia02> kiss b qt5 || kiss b qt5 should start a second build when the first one fails?
2020-04-20T16:00:59 #kisslinux <dylan02> Yes
2020-04-20T16:08:25 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have ported kiss to i586 and have a working webkit2gtk. Lets see how qt5webengine goes
2020-04-20T16:09:47 #kisslinux <dylan02> Nice
2020-04-20T16:27:01 #kisslinux <onodera> my system time slowly falls out of sync with the real time
2020-04-20T16:27:09 #kisslinux <onodera> what is the kiss way to keep it in sync
2020-04-20T16:29:30 #kisslinux <kiedtl> chronyd or ntpd?
2020-04-20T16:52:29 #kisslinux <jedavies> Anyone here using ccache? What settings do you use to deal with kiss having different build directories each time?
2020-04-20T17:17:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Watch it be flawless
2020-04-20T17:23:56 #kisslinux <muevoid> How do I automatically set an alias in sh like how one would with .bashrc
2020-04-20T17:25:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> Would I just add it to .profile?
2020-04-20T18:06:40 #kisslinux <dilyn> MueVoid: .shrc, .ashrc etc etc
2020-04-20T18:38:45 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i'm bored
2020-04-20T18:38:57 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i think i will install kisslinux on my secondary machine
2020-04-20T19:36:04 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i've hit a wall right away :/
2020-04-20T19:36:58 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> https://pastebin.com/DAsUsvSe
2020-04-20T19:38:40 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> dylan02: halp :3
2020-04-20T19:38:51 #kisslinux <abi`> xz: Cannot exec: No such file or directory
2020-04-20T19:38:54 #kisslinux <abi`> says it all
2020-04-20T19:42:39 #kisslinux <ax> sorry TwistedFate what system base ?
2020-04-20T19:43:11 #kisslinux <ax> p.s. good evening
2020-04-20T19:43:18 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ax: void linux live
2020-04-20T19:43:28 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> abi`: but the file is there..
2020-04-20T19:44:24 #kisslinux <abi`> i doubt, but if, use xz directly to uncompress and then tar -xvf ..
2020-04-20T19:45:21 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ls -la
2020-04-20T19:45:22 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> -rwxr-xr-x  1 anon anon     1283 Apr 20 19:31 kiss-chroot
2020-04-20T19:45:22 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> -rw-r--r--  1 anon anon 28020496 Mar  7 21:08 kiss-chroot.tar.xz
2020-04-20T19:45:22 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> -rw-r--r--  1 anon anon       85 Mar  7 21:14 kiss-chroot.tar.xz.sha256
2020-04-20T19:45:43 #kisslinux <abi`> you miss the xz tool to decompress the tar in the first place
2020-04-20T19:45:55 #kisslinux <abi`> your void linux live does not come with xz
2020-04-20T19:46:04 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> oh
2020-04-20T19:46:11 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i thought it was complaining about the file missing
2020-04-20T19:46:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> `which xz`
2020-04-20T19:46:14 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> dang
2020-04-20T19:46:23 #kisslinux <dilyn> f
2020-04-20T19:46:29 #kisslinux <abi`> nah, tar wants to call xz to decompress but fails to find it
2020-04-20T19:46:31 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> gonna download another live os
2020-04-20T19:46:44 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> this one is i686 anyway
2020-04-20T19:46:53 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i can't believe i didn't click amd64
2020-04-20T19:47:04 #kisslinux <ax> TwistedFate: void linux live problem with tar in live.
2020-04-20T19:47:19 #kisslinux <ax> use bsdtar
2020-04-20T19:47:36 #kisslinux <ax> or symlink gtar
2020-04-20T19:48:30 #kisslinux <ax> and sorry but this is a problem related to starting iso not to kiss.
2020-04-20T19:48:46 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> you are right
2020-04-20T19:49:21 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i just didn't realize what the problem was, i wasn't saying it was kiss related :)
2020-04-20T19:49:27 #kisslinux <ax> mine is not a criticism, it is only an observation ...
2020-04-20T19:49:31 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> it was just a pebkac :D
2020-04-20T19:50:01 #kisslinux <ax> use bsdtar or xbps-install to solve the problem
2020-04-20T19:50:14 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ax: i downloaded a different distro
2020-04-20T19:50:21 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> void was i686 to begin with
2020-04-20T19:50:30 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> and i need amd64
2020-04-20T19:50:52 #kisslinux <ax> you will have to recompile in any case. :)
2020-04-20T19:51:43 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ax: oh i coould have used 32bit void anyway?
2020-04-20T19:54:04 #kisslinux <ax> it depends on the starting kernel ... you will have to set the flags... it depends on the starting kernel ... but in any case the flags after chroot you will have to set them ... it is clear that if you have an x86_64 system a similar starting system is recommended to prevent the kernel from paranoia
2020-04-20T19:56:07 #kisslinux <ax> but this is outside the packages that iso base provides you to complete a stage3 installation
2020-04-20T19:57:08 #kisslinux <ax> theoretically you can install kiss anywhere ... just start from linux minimal rootfs ... which provides the required basic tools
2020-04-20T19:58:53 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> huh, it's nice not having to put - USE flag for pulse dbus polkit consolekit etc
2020-04-20T19:59:40 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> can someone redpill me on wayland and pipewire though?
2020-04-20T20:00:39 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ugh, just read a short description about it on archwiki, disgusting.
2020-04-20T20:09:59 #kisslinux <onodera> wayland seems very gay to me
2020-04-20T20:10:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> If anyone who sees this could give me the output of `qmake -query` that would be great
2020-04-20T20:10:03 #kisslinux <onodera> i don't know about pipewire
2020-04-20T20:10:59 #kisslinux <onodera> dilyn: `fish: Unknown command: qmake
2020-04-20T20:11:26 #kisslinux <dilyn> Assuming you have qt5 installed
2020-04-20T20:12:39 #kisslinux <onodera> ;)
2020-04-20T20:12:53 #kisslinux <dilyn> Lol
2020-04-20T20:13:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> Because now I'm having a VERY strange issue with qmake. It is unable to find /usr/lib/qt/mkspecs/linux-g++. So I can't actually build ANYTHING qt5 besides the base rn
2020-04-20T20:14:28 #kisslinux <dilyn> It's probably looking in /usr/share for it. So why did it get built into /usr/lib THIS time, after nothing changed
2020-04-20T20:15:35 #kisslinux <E5ten> what arguments do you give the configure script when you build qt5-base?
2020-04-20T20:15:44 #kisslinux <dilyn> A bunch. Check it in community
2020-04-20T20:16:09 #kisslinux <dilyn> But archdatadir is given us /usr/lib. Except qmake THINKS it's /usr/share.
2020-04-20T20:16:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> Dylan: our Falkon issues might be qt5 after all?
2020-04-20T20:17:02 #kisslinux <E5ten> that looks like the same as what I do
2020-04-20T20:17:06 #kisslinux <E5ten> I don't know why that'd be happening
2020-04-20T20:17:20 #kisslinux <E5ten> what's the exact qmake error?
2020-04-20T20:19:37 #kisslinux <dilyn> ew
2020-04-20T20:19:38 #kisslinux <dilyn> wait
2020-04-20T20:19:44 #kisslinux * E5ten sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/enrFNdLOJiSDddLhPXGgrHWs >
2020-04-20T20:20:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> what's gross about it lol?
2020-04-20T20:20:19 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ax: what does this mean? :/ https://pastebin.com/CVvCEkHp
2020-04-20T20:20:45 #kisslinux <dilyn> http://ix.io/2iRP
2020-04-20T20:21:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> TwistedFate: the chroot command isn't found
2020-04-20T20:21:26 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: maybe the new qt.conf is messing up the paths
2020-04-20T20:21:35 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> E5ten: w-what? but that doesn't make any sense..
2020-04-20T20:21:43 #kisslinux <dilyn> claudia: perhaps it is
2020-04-20T20:21:51 #kisslinux <E5ten> that's what it means
2020-04-20T20:21:51 #kisslinux <dilyn> which, is quite likely. this is my qmake -query
2020-04-20T20:21:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> http://ix.io/2iRQ
2020-04-20T20:22:24 #kisslinux <E5ten> where's the qt.conf, what does it come from, and can you send it
2020-04-20T20:22:29 #kisslinux <dilyn> it's in community
2020-04-20T20:22:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> with falkon/files
2020-04-20T20:23:02 #kisslinux <dilyn> i added it because it was the suggested work-around for falkon looking in the wrong directory for QT resources. but if it's breaking qt5, that's no bueno.
2020-04-20T20:23:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> OH
2020-04-20T20:23:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> that's probably it, actually
2020-04-20T20:23:32 #kisslinux <E5ten> shouldn't Prefix be /usr?
2020-04-20T20:23:57 #kisslinux <dilyn> e5ten: if qt.conf is messing with qmake we would expect the prefix to switch to /usr/share/qt
2020-04-20T20:24:27 #kisslinux <dilyn> i deleted qt.conf and now qmake -query reports the correct information
2020-04-20T20:24:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> "QT_INSTALL_PREFIX:/usr/share/qt" which it is
2020-04-20T20:25:17 #kisslinux <E5ten> does the falkon issue still happen?
2020-04-20T20:25:52 #kisslinux <dilyn> after deleting qt.conf, yes
2020-04-20T20:26:17 #kisslinux <dilyn> which means that we're going to have to move /usr/bin/falkon somewhere else if we want the qt.conf workaround to work and not break qt5*
2020-04-20T20:26:33 #kisslinux <E5ten> and what's the falkon problem again?
2020-04-20T20:26:34 #kisslinux <dilyn> which means i need to find another solution, if possible. lmao
2020-04-20T20:26:46 #kisslinux <dilyn> it looks for resources in /share/qt/resources instead of /usr/share/qt/resources
2020-04-20T20:27:31 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> IT'S ALIVEEEEEEEEE
2020-04-20T20:28:22 #kisslinux <dilyn> ah, wait. i changed `Prefix` in qt.conf, not `Resources`, `Translations`.
2020-04-20T20:28:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> that might do it
2020-04-20T20:29:02 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> @muevoid sowm has a rounded corners patch already if you didn't see it
2020-04-20T20:33:29 #kisslinux <onodera> picom also has a rounded corner patch
2020-04-20T20:33:40 #kisslinux <onodera> which actually produces antialiased corners
2020-04-20T20:33:46 #kisslinux <onodera> smoothed ones rather
2020-04-20T20:45:31 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> eh, QT5 still not compiling for me, anyone else having issues?
2020-04-20T20:48:53 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> tried installing ccache
2020-04-20T20:58:19 #kisslinux <dilyn> is it the same complaint as last time?
2020-04-20T20:58:53 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> drat
2020-04-20T20:59:01 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i got to the kernel configuring and installing part
2020-04-20T20:59:15 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> gonna put this one on hold :3
2020-04-20T21:00:19 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> dilyn: yea, Makefile:51
2020-04-20T21:00:37 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> sub-src-make_first
2020-04-20T21:00:54 #kisslinux <freddyruxpin> (Error 2)
2020-04-20T21:06:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> I have learned it is a pain to package large applications lol
2020-04-20T21:23:24 #kisslinux <dilyn> wow i really hate QT
2020-04-20T21:28:36 #kisslinux <onodera> can't be much worse than GTK
2020-04-20T21:28:43 #kisslinux <onodera> GTK ruined mainstream linux desktop usage
2020-04-20T21:28:47 #kisslinux <onodera> which might be a good
2020-04-20T21:29:06 #kisslinux <onodera> but any program using the GTK filepicker is doomed to ruin
2020-04-20T21:29:25 #kisslinux <onodera> "let's check out Firefox/this-photoshop-replacement"
2020-04-20T21:29:35 #kisslinux <onodera> "lets open an image" -- oh not even THUMBNAILS
2020-04-20T21:29:50 #kisslinux <onodera> bug open for like 16 years now and the GTK devs don't give a fuck
2020-04-20T21:29:54 #kisslinux <onodera> they even closed any comments
2020-04-20T21:35:41 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> umm, i couldn't just copy/paste an existing kernel right?
2020-04-20T21:36:55 #kisslinux <onodera> TwistedFate: i don't know actually
2020-04-20T21:36:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> you'd have to manually load any modules that it includes
2020-04-20T21:37:01 #kisslinux <onodera> might make use of some glibc things
2020-04-20T21:37:21 #kisslinux <dilyn> which could potentially include your keyboard
2020-04-20T21:37:56 #kisslinux <dilyn> you could boot up a live cd and download a kernel and do `make localmodconfig`, which could help
2020-04-20T21:50:06 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> hmm
2020-04-20T21:50:15 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> how do i get the firmware though?
2020-04-20T21:50:53 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i'm using intel haswell i5 4460 and it's integrated gpu, i'd need the microcode, right?
2020-04-20T21:51:19 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> linux-firmware package is what i installed on previous distro
2020-04-20T21:51:55 #kisslinux <dilynm> You don't need microcode for the igpu, T least on my mobile haswell i5
2020-04-20T21:52:44 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> what about linux-firmware in general?
2020-04-20T21:52:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> But if you want the microcode you'd download it from the intel-ucode GitHub  and add whatever directory it's in as an extra firmware dir in .config and then the relative path to the ucode from there
2020-04-20T21:52:58 #kisslinux <dilynm> You only need that if you have a device that requires firmware
2020-04-20T21:53:05 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> got it
2020-04-20T22:07:39 #kisslinux <claudia> dilynm: I successfully build qt5. maybe with luck or the patch from alpine did it
2020-04-20T22:08:28 #kisslinux <claudia> https://git.alpinelinux.org/aports/tree/community/qt5-qtbase/qt-musl-iconv-no-bom.patch
2020-04-20T22:08:55 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i just did make defconfig and then made some minor changes with menuconfig
2020-04-20T22:09:01 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> building the kernel now, hope it works :3
2020-04-20T22:16:17 #kisslinux <dilynm> Claudia: what exactly is that patch fixing
2020-04-20T22:19:07 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i don't understand this part, can someone please explain? Create an /etc/fstab by UUID and additionally pass the      |
2020-04-20T22:19:07 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> |   PARTUUID as a kernel parameter.
2020-04-20T22:20:56 #kisslinux <claudia> dilynm: to be honest I cant tell, I just applied it to see if it helps :2020-04-20T22:21:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> https://github.com/dilyn-corner/dotfiles/blob/master/git/dotfiles/system/etc/fstab como así
2020-04-20T22:21:43 #kisslinux <dilynm> claudia: xD mayhaps it's the Golden ticket but I doubt it
2020-04-20T22:21:56 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> does kiss have nano in official repo?
2020-04-20T22:22:08 #kisslinux <dilynm> vi is in BusyBox
2020-04-20T22:22:30 #kisslinux <dilynm> And re: that last part it means for grub or efibootmgr to know where your kernel lives
2020-04-20T22:22:46 #kisslinux <dilynm> Or rather where / lives
2020-04-20T22:22:52 #kisslinux <claudia> dilynm: so state is that qt5 builds without qt.conf, but needs several atempts?
2020-04-20T22:23:05 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> how can i install nano? i don't know how to use vi/vim etc..
2020-04-20T22:23:16 #kisslinux <dilynm> qt5 has always built with qt.conf. It won't build WITH it
2020-04-20T22:23:45 #kisslinux <dilynm> Since fstab is empty you could just echo $bla >> /etc/fstab
2020-04-20T22:23:55 #kisslinux <claudia> I give this patch two more build runs and will tell then. last qt5 failed for me several times.
2020-04-20T22:24:37 #kisslinux <claudia> y builds without but doesnt want with
2020-04-20T22:30:09 #kisslinux <dilynm> Because it changes paths for qmake and so it doesn't find the mkspecs
2020-04-20T22:30:49 #kisslinux <dilynm> So it'd be fine if the user just reinstalled Falkon every time, which maybe they'd want to (should?) But if not, I have to do something else
2020-04-20T22:31:21 #kisslinux <dilynm> Alternatively I could merely provide notice of this in a post-install script, which is what I think I'll do until I get it figured out. Not all users need this file anyways
2020-04-20T22:31:34 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> guys, does this fstab look ok? it reflects my partitions.. https://imgur.com/a/CLGaJCl
2020-04-20T22:34:45 #kisslinux <dilynm> Seems good
2020-04-20T23:34:21 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> how do i set hostname on kiss?
2020-04-20T23:35:09 #kisslinux <claudia> in inittab
2020-04-20T23:35:13 #kisslinux <claudia> :once:/usr/bin/hostname foo
2020-04-20T23:37:01 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> there's no i3 wm :(
2020-04-20T23:37:28 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> inittab?
2020-04-20T23:37:36 #kisslinux <claudia> oh
2020-04-20T23:38:18 #kisslinux <claudia02> its /etc/inittab
2020-04-20T23:38:42 #kisslinux <claudia02> this file exec at startup
2020-04-20T23:38:53 #kisslinux <claudia02> you can auto load modules there e.g
2020-04-20T23:39:25 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> claudia02: so i just do vim /etc/inittab and add it there?
2020-04-20T23:39:51 #kisslinux <claudia02> yes
2020-04-20T23:40:00 #kisslinux <claudia02> I have it after the tty stuff
2020-04-20T23:40:02 #kisslinux <muevoid> Is it possible to make a chroot to run gui applications?
2020-04-20T23:40:32 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> i never done it this way.. how do i add it to inittab?
2020-04-20T23:40:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> with the editor of your liking ;)
2020-04-20T23:41:04 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> claudia02: that i know, i meant as in how should it look in there
2020-04-20T23:41:26 #kisslinux <claudia02> as i wrote with this points
2020-04-20T23:41:52 #kisslinux <claudia02> they describe some kind of order which is expected
2020-04-20T23:42:18 #kisslinux <claudia02> and the path to the binary is important
2020-04-20T23:42:48 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> :once:/usr/bin/hostname hostname
2020-04-20T23:42:52 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> thats how i added it
2020-04-20T23:43:44 #kisslinux <claudia02> dilynm: I have 3 wins in a row with the patch I found. No win without patch with more tries
2020-04-20T23:43:54 #kisslinux <claudia02> one more double point at the beginning
2020-04-20T23:44:01 #kisslinux <claudia02> TwistedFate:
2020-04-20T23:44:12 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im honestly curious what is wrong with dbus? I get the jist of what it is supposed to do however I am not 100% sure
2020-04-20T23:44:32 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> ::once:/usr/bin/hostname hostname like this?
2020-04-20T23:44:55 #kisslinux <claudia02> looks good for a try
2020-04-20T23:46:08 #kisslinux <dilynm> i3 is in community, unless it got dropped. You could readd it
2020-04-20T23:47:07 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> which WMs are available in the main repo?
2020-04-20T23:47:18 #kisslinux <dilynm> MueVoid: yes it is. You need xhost, and  when you enter the chroot do `export DISPLAY=:$num`, where $num is $DISPLAY in your env
2020-04-20T23:48:08 #kisslinux <muevoid> Kk thanks! Afaik it's not possible to install krita without dbus so i'm just going to make a voidlinux musl chroot
2020-04-20T23:53:42 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> welp, my install was a failure
2020-04-20T23:54:19 #kisslinux <TwistedFate> shows 'grub is loading' briefly on top left corner and then seems to reboot
2020-04-20T23:58:45 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does the chroot have access to all devices like a native install? For example a drawing tablet with pressure sensitvity