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2020-04-03T00:21:38 #kisslinux <onodera> how do people here set the root image (wallpaper)?
2020-04-03T00:30:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> wal
2020-04-03T00:31:20 #kisslinux <dilyn> or feh
2020-04-03T00:34:19 #kisslinux <onodera> hmm I might port setroot then
2020-04-03T00:34:33 #kisslinux <onodera> basically feh without the image viewing part
2020-04-03T00:35:55 #kisslinux <onodera> And what about screenshots? is there any nice program besides scrot & maim
2020-04-03T00:36:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> imlib2_grab
2020-04-03T00:36:20 #kisslinux <onodera> I want something that can take selection screenshots. Scrot can give weird artifacts and maim is kind of bloated
2020-04-03T00:41:20 #kisslinux <illiliti> onodera: https://github.com/dylanaraps/bin/blob/master/scr
2020-04-03T00:42:30 #kisslinux <onodera> illiliti: thanks, can that do selections screenshots though?
2020-04-03T00:42:54 #kisslinux <illiliti> i don't think so
2020-04-03T00:43:41 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/g-truc/glm/issues/947
2020-04-03T00:43:48 #kisslinux <onodera> lmao, what a weird issue
2020-04-03T00:44:07 #kisslinux <onodera> developer seemingly purposefully breaks his software without any rationale
2020-04-03T00:50:42 #kisslinux <onodera> wait dilyn, you are not dylan?
2020-04-03T00:51:23 #kisslinux <onodera> I just saw you have a PR open, I thought this was a creative way of spelling dylan lol
2020-04-03T01:06:11 #kisslinux <dilyn> i am not dylan araps
2020-04-03T01:06:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> that should be my new name lmao
2020-04-03T01:34:02 #kisslinux <illiliti> mforney: are you maintainer of ubase?
2020-04-03T01:37:10 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: only sbase currently. but i do have a personal branch of ubase i've been collecting some patches in
2020-04-03T01:44:27 #kisslinux <illiliti> oh, sorry then. i wrote a simple patch that fixes 'mount -o move' - https://gist.github.com/illiliti/7c07d3b7a9b762bc0ffe7600d0229b3f . it might be worth to apply it to upstream ....
2020-04-03T01:46:57 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: can you send it to the mailing list? hackers⊙so
2020-04-03T01:55:31 #kisslinux <illiliti> i'll try
2020-04-03T02:22:30 #kisslinux <illiliti> mforney: sent!
2020-04-03T02:42:22 #kisslinux <mforney> illiliti: thanks!
2020-04-03T04:39:31 #kisslinux <dilyn> all: claudio2: I think I have fixed our falkon issue. If anyone has an issue with falkon (it looks for QT resources in /share/qt, not /usr/share/qt), attempt to add this file to /usr/bin: [200~https://github.com/dilyn-corner/community/blob/falkon-fix/community/falkon/files/qt.conf
2020-04-03T04:39:49 #kisslinux <dilyn> finally took some time to look at it and it has worked for me. want someone else to take a peak to see if i've missed something
2020-04-03T05:36:26 #kisslinux <illiliti> guys, need help. how to emulate 'sleep 0.5' in pure posix shell? hacks and dirty tricks are accepted :)
2020-04-03T06:05:12 #kisslinux <illiliti> E5ten: did you get rid of perl script needed for wireguard? just curious
2020-04-03T06:13:22 #kisslinux <E5ten> http://ix.io/2grS this replaces arch/x86/crypto/poly1305-x86_64-cryptogams.pl, you also haev to change that Makefile to deal with it being a shell script now, the script comes from openssl and has codepaths that are never accessed in the kernel build, all of those aren't replicated here in the shell version (I had them initially and removed them afterwards cuz they're unneeded)
2020-04-03T06:13:44 #kisslinux <E5ten> it'll probably need to be updated to match the perl version in the future whenever it gets changed
2020-04-03T09:31:46 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: Re falkon: I can test and report later in the evening
2020-04-03T09:32:09 #kisslinux <claudia> also, nice! (:
2020-04-03T09:35:41 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://icyphox.sh/blog/kiss-zen/
2020-04-03T09:35:43 #kisslinux <icyphox> :)
2020-04-03T09:49:33 #kisslinux <lieu> o/
2020-04-03T09:49:50 #kisslinux <dzove855> icyphox: great blog. Didn't even know about kiss-games
2020-04-03T09:50:40 #kisslinux <lieu> dylan has reached peak simplicity
2020-04-03T09:51:18 #kisslinux <lieu> he's been offline for a couple of days already
2020-04-03T09:51:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> lol
2020-04-03T09:51:51 #kisslinux <icyphox> dzove855: Thanks!
2020-04-03T09:53:03 #kisslinux <lieu> I'm really hoping and praying that claudia packages snes9x lol
2020-04-03T09:54:27 #kisslinux <dzove855> lieu: huu, that would be great and also other emulators :D
2020-04-03T10:04:04 #kisslinux <claudia02> there is mednafen
2020-04-03T10:04:07 #kisslinux <claudia02>  :P
2020-04-03T10:04:16 #kisslinux <claudia02> as multisystem emulator
2020-04-03T10:07:39 #kisslinux <dzove855> aah didn't know. I will have a look :D does it provide the possibility to play nintendo DS games?
2020-04-03T10:09:33 #kisslinux <claudia02> dzove855: I havent tried that.
2020-04-03T10:09:57 #kisslinux <claudia02> Also not on any other emulator. I guess its special because of the touch input
2020-04-03T10:11:53 #kisslinux <dzove855> i had used once a nintendo ds emulator.
2020-04-03T10:13:11 #kisslinux <dzove855> it was this one : http://desmume.org/
2020-04-03T11:18:03 #kisslinux <jedavies> Didn't know about mednafen, that's great!  Really need to do Earthbound again...
2020-04-03T11:49:32 #kisslinux <claudia02> the only game I really play is classic doom from time to time. I would like to have some kind of arcade racing game beside tuxracer and srb2kart, but havent found one yet.
2020-04-03T11:52:04 #kisslinux <claudia02> packaging all this stuff feels like collecting classic video games to me, for the people who know what this feels like. :D
2020-04-03T11:58:44 #kisslinux <claudia02> jedavies: earthbound is one of the good snes rpgs?
2020-04-03T12:17:31 #kisslinux <jedavies> Yeah it's a weird one...
2020-04-03T13:08:00 #kisslinux <onodera> what is the "suckless" filesystem to use?
2020-04-03T13:13:11 #kisslinux <illiliti> ext4,f2fs
2020-04-03T13:14:25 #kisslinux <onodera> I'm using f2fs atm, but it is weird with fsck
2020-04-03T13:18:21 #kisslinux <illiliti> fsck is evil. i always remove its
2020-04-03T13:22:28 #kisslinux <fehawen> Dylan looked into packaging docker for KISS, but said it was difficult with all of docker's dependecies.
2020-04-03T13:23:06 #kisslinux <fehawen> And as I use (need) docker frequently for work stuff, I'll have to dig deeper into it later at some point
2020-04-03T13:24:00 #kisslinux <fehawen> But I'm working on a few projects that require dotnet and aspnet. Anyone running KISS using any .NET stuff?
2020-04-03T13:24:24 #kisslinux <fehawen> Would be easy enough with e.g. docker, obviously. But without it, hmm...
2020-04-03T13:26:14 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> I'm not using .NET, are you able to do similar stuff with LXC/LXD that you do in docker?
2020-04-03T13:29:05 #kisslinux <lieu> o/
2020-04-03T13:32:23 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: setroot is in the community repo btw
2020-04-03T13:39:36 #kisslinux <onodera> lieu: sorry I missed something
2020-04-03T13:39:39 #kisslinux <onodera> what is?
2020-04-03T13:40:51 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: you were talking about wallpaper setters a while ago
2020-04-03T13:43:05 #kisslinux <lieu> and you were planning on packaging it, no?
2020-04-03T13:48:57 #kisslinux <onodera> ahhh I see
2020-04-03T13:48:59 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks
2020-04-03T13:51:25 #kisslinux <fehawen> ominous_anonymou: No idea tbh, but should be possible. Tricky part is all docker and compose files used, as we're several developers working on same projects etc.
2020-04-03T13:56:38 #kisslinux <dzove855> fehawen: did you have a look and libpot? I might be easyer to package for kiss, but i did not have yet the time to look into it
2020-04-03T13:57:28 #kisslinux <icyphox> People really do get annoyed by "Unix minimalists" lol.
2020-04-03T13:57:44 #kisslinux <icyphox> https://lobste.rs/s/vpckxz/zen_kiss_linux
2020-04-03T14:02:49 #kisslinux <dzove855> they don't like our folk!
2020-04-03T14:05:24 #kisslinux <onodera> >UNIX minimalist reactionary
2020-04-03T14:05:26 #kisslinux <onodera> das rite
2020-04-03T14:06:06 #kisslinux <dilyn> I'm shocked by how necessary people think notifications are
2020-04-03T14:06:31 #kisslinux <onodera> I wrote my own libnotify display thingy in go
2020-04-03T14:07:55 #kisslinux <onodera> https:/camille.sh/PXqj.png
2020-04-03T14:09:03 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Neato! What's it called?
2020-04-03T14:09:13 #kisslinux <dilyn> Just more reactionary minimalism smh /s
2020-04-03T14:10:01 #kisslinux <onodera> https://github.com/onodera-punpun/melonnotifier
2020-04-03T14:10:18 #kisslinux <onodera> also check out: https://github.com/onodera-punpun/melonbar
2020-04-03T14:11:06 #kisslinux <onodera> https:/camille.sh/1W1F.png
2020-04-03T14:14:47 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Nifty. I will try this out.
2020-04-03T14:17:03 #kisslinux <onodera> requires libnotify though
2020-04-03T14:17:15 #kisslinux <onodera> probably not packages on kiss, i might port it later this evening
2020-04-03T14:19:46 #kisslinux <icyphox> onodera: Doesn't libnotify depend on D-Bus?
2020-04-03T14:19:54 #kisslinux <onodera> probably lol
2020-04-03T14:20:16 #kisslinux <onodera> eh according to the crux port, only gtk3
2020-04-03T14:20:45 #kisslinux <onodera> interesting
2020-04-03T14:21:16 #kisslinux <onodera> can't imagine it doesn't use dbus though
2020-04-03T14:23:06 #kisslinux <onodera> hmm I have to figure out another way of getting notifications then
2020-04-03T14:23:32 #kisslinux <onodera> for irssi I can just execute a command with a string, though firefox uses libnotify...
2020-04-03T14:26:14 #kisslinux <onodera> another question, I want to prettify my repo folder, I just want this structure: repo -> [core -> ports, extra -> ports, community -> ports]
2020-04-03T14:27:09 #kisslinux <onodera> though because of the structure of the git repo it is: repo -> [core -> ports, extra -> ports], community -> community -> ports
2020-04-03T14:27:32 #kisslinux <onodera> can I somehow clone and pull directories in a git repo rather than the whole repo with the .github and README included?
2020-04-03T14:28:41 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: you can just fork them through `kiss-fork <package name>`
2020-04-03T14:29:48 #kisslinux <lieu> but KISS assumes repos to be git repos
2020-04-03T14:29:58 #kisslinux <onodera> how can I install these kiss utils?
2020-04-03T14:30:02 #kisslinux <onodera> what is the port name
2020-04-03T14:30:21 #kisslinux <lieu> it's included in `kiss`
2020-04-03T14:30:48 #kisslinux <lieu> s/it's/they're/g
2020-04-03T14:31:18 #kisslinux <onodera> ah I thought there was a port for them
2020-04-03T14:31:46 #kisslinux <lieu> and a good bunch of utils, they are
2020-04-03T14:31:52 #kisslinux <lieu> pretty handy at times
2020-04-03T14:32:08 #kisslinux <lieu> especially `kiss-manifest` (for me, at least)
2020-04-03T14:33:06 #kisslinux <lieu> onedera: There was a time it was a separate package called `kiss-utils`. Then Dylan decided to ship them alongside `kiss`.
2020-04-03T14:34:49 #kisslinux <lieu> Btw, when I say KISS <- like this, I'm pertaining to the distro. And when I say `kiss`, it's the package manager. #JustSayin lol
2020-04-03T14:49:39 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> if i recall, there was a way to do notifications by dynamically creating lemonbars?  am i making that up?
2020-04-03T14:51:18 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> http://blog.z3bra.org/2014/04/pop-it-up.html boom, you looking for this?
2020-04-03T14:52:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> actually i'm wondering iw d-bus could be rewritten by providing the same development interface, and behind just put file based messages and using inotify for clients
2020-04-03T15:01:26 #kisslinux <dzove855> if i remeber right to connect on dbus they're using also the dbus client interface, which should actually be possible
2020-04-03T15:01:31 #kisslinux <dzove855> and provide it rootless
2020-04-03T15:02:44 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> onodera check that blog post from z3bra above
2020-04-03T15:04:40 #kisslinux <onodera> i totally forgot about him
2020-04-03T15:04:46 #kisslinux <onodera> I used to read all his blog posts
2020-04-03T15:16:02 #kisslinux <lieu> onodera: https://github.com/clifordsab/bli/tree/master/ss/libnotify
2020-04-03T15:16:30 #kisslinux <lieu> builds fine, I guess
2020-04-03T15:16:55 #kisslinux <lieu> not sure about the depends file, though
2020-04-03T15:20:47 #kisslinux <lieu> nvm, depends done lol
2020-04-03T15:21:52 #kisslinux <onodera> so how does that work without dbus...
2020-04-03T15:24:55 #kisslinux <lieu> idk, i just tested if it builds without dbus
2020-04-03T16:12:55 #kisslinux <humaid> ominous_anonymou: about pop it up...good piece.
2020-04-03T16:15:57 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> hi, anyone knows how is the more efficient way to pass flags to a makefile?
2020-04-03T16:16:46 #kisslinux <eudaldgr> i mean run make with a flags with various option, `make --something`
2020-04-03T16:17:37 #kisslinux <humaid> I have a question. Why KISS doesn't include d-bus?
2020-04-03T16:18:05 #kisslinux <humaid> what are the problems of d-bus?
2020-04-03T16:18:55 #kisslinux <humaid> I've learned about systemd, but not d-bus.
2020-04-03T16:55:48 #kisslinux <icyphox> Weird. 'kiss b ninja' gives me: /usr/bin/kiss: line 103: can't open version: no such file
2020-04-03T17:00:27 #kisslinux <lieu> icyphox: What's the output of `ls $(kiss s ninja)`?
2020-04-03T17:15:42 #kisslinux <icyphox> lieu: Well, I get "Package ninja not in any repository".
2020-04-03T17:24:57 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> didn't ninja get replaced with samurai? so it's a symlink or something?
2020-04-03T17:25:42 #kisslinux <ominous_anonymou> https://k1ss.org//news/20191031a
2020-04-03T17:45:03 #kisslinux <dilyn> Yes
2020-04-03T17:45:22 #kisslinux <icyphox> Oh wops.
2020-04-03T19:46:25 #kisslinux <onodera> I just came across a patch that does apply with gnu patch but not busybox path....
2020-04-03T19:46:33 #kisslinux <onodera> https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk/fix-memleak-in-plugin-scanning.patch?h=packages/ladspa
2020-04-03T19:46:45 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone know why? Maybe because it uses tabs and spaces for identation?
2020-04-03T20:22:29 #kisslinux <onodera> anyone?
2020-04-03T20:22:59 #kisslinux <mps> onodera: busybox patch is limited
2020-04-03T20:27:11 #kisslinux <onodera> though what is wrong witht he patch
2020-04-03T20:30:24 #kisslinux <mps> I didn't looked at it
2020-04-03T20:30:25 #kisslinux <onodera> ah got it
2020-04-03T20:30:28 #kisslinux <onodera> fixed the patch
2020-04-03T21:46:07 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: your qt.conf works. good job!
2020-04-03T21:48:27 #kisslinux <claudia> but still no integrated adblock :2020-04-03T21:54:42 #kisslinux <dilyn> Glad to hear! I stumbled across a link Dylan had posted and it was almost too easy
2020-04-03T21:54:50 #kisslinux <dilyn> Try and figure out ad stuff next I guess
2020-04-03T21:55:17 #kisslinux <lastchansen> Any news form Dylan?
2020-04-03T22:09:52 #kisslinux <claudia> the last falkon release was this time last year. maybe the next is comming soon (:
2020-04-03T22:14:18 #kisslinux <Histic> hey i’m currently install kiss and perl gives me an error the error is the program compiled OK, but exited with status 127
2020-04-03T22:27:50 #kisslinux <claudia> Histic: on my updated machine, perl builds ok. You may skip perl for building the kernel
2020-04-03T22:27:54 #kisslinux <claudia> theres a patch
2020-04-03T22:37:15 #kisslinux <claudia> dilyn: do you have a hint for what to look for the AD stuff?
2020-04-03T22:42:58 #kisslinux <dilyn> We pull from git for Falkon because their releases are so slow, so I rebuild it every so often when enough commits show up
2020-04-03T22:43:15 #kisslinux <dilyn> No idea about ad block. It even ignores my hosts file, so I'm really stumped as to how it works
2020-04-03T23:01:26 #kisslinux <B3AR> installing kiss and installing grub i get libdevmapper error
2020-04-03T23:36:56 #kisslinux <onodera> when does profile.d actually get executed?
2020-04-03T23:37:03 #kisslinux <onodera> it is not every time you launch a new shell
2020-04-03T23:49:25 #kisslinux <aarng> onodera: /etc/profile (which loads the scripts from profile.d) gets loaded only by login shells
2020-04-03T23:56:04 #kisslinux <onodera> alright
2020-04-03T23:56:04 #kisslinux <onodera> thanks
2020-04-03T23:56:14 #kisslinux <onodera> does anyone here use custom ldflags?