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Subject: Re: Commands, etc.
From: Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>
Date: Fri, Jun 19, 1998 1813��� EDT
Message-id: <358AE277.8B1814BE@swbell.net>
SkibumOh writes ...
>
> I just got a new (at least new to me) IIGS. Think that it is a great
> system. One question though... It is a ROM 01 (that would be 2ed generation
> right???), with the color RGB(?) moniter. It has no hard drive, a 5 1/4, and
> 3 1/2 floppy drives. Also has a 2400bps modem!
> I have a few questions...
> 1)Can I put the GS/OS on this comp.
The current GS/OS or "System" is System 6.0.1. You will want a 4MB
RAM expansion card plugged into your Mem Expansion Slot to run System
6.0.1. (The Mem Expansion Slot is near the front right side of the
motherboard.) A 4MB GS ROM-01 can run nearly all GS software as well as
most IIe and II+ software.
With the old Apple, Inc. 1MB card plugged into your Mem Expansion
Slot, you can boot and run many old "ProDOS-16" (an early GS System) and
System 5.0.4 games and utilities. You can, also, run most ProDOS-8 and
DOS 3.3 software designed for the IIe and II+.
With no mem expansion, you can get some "ProDOS-16" stuff to work.
Mostly, with just the 256k of built-in RAM, the GS is limited to very
early GS programs running under "ProDOS-16" or ProDOS-8 along with most
ProDOS-8 and DOS 3.3 software designed for the IIe and II+.
> 2)What upgrades can I get for 100usd
There is no established seller of major used peripherals in any
quantity. That is, nobody has a pile of good used 4MB Mem Expansion
boards, ZipGS or TransWarp accelerators, RamFAST SCSI cards, or Focus
Hard Card hard disks. Mainly, finding good used stuff is a matter of
lucking out at a flea mart, school sale, club swap meet, ... or on
comp.sys.apple2.marketplace . Prices can vary widely depending upon
where you look on any given day.
The usual way to get most major upgrades, such as a 4MB Mem
Expansion card, is to buy them new. Alltech has the best price on a
4-8MB card. Sequential Systems offers a 4-8MB card that is more
compact-- needs fewer mem IC's-- and so, almost certainly, uses less
power; but, the card is more expensive. Both of these cards can be
expanded to 8MB. There are two or three other 4MB boards currently
available; however, your best choice seems to be the "Sirius" from
Alltech or the "RAM-GS Plus" from Sequential.
A quick, easy, low-cost way to get going with System 6.0.1 is to
get your 4MB card from Alltech or Sequential and get an 80MB Focus Hard
Card drive with System installed from Alltech.
Alltech (760-724-2404; http://allelec.com accepts on-line orders) sells
all kinds of replacement parts for Apple II's as well as the Focus Hard
Card drives, CD-ROM drives, cables, memory boards & IC's, diskettes, ...
.
Sequential Systems (800-759-4549 or 303-666-4549,800-999-1717 tech,
303-666-7797 BBS; http://www.sequential.com email:
inquiries@sequential.com) sells 4-8MB GS memory boards, RAMfast SCSI
interface, and other peripheral boards.
> 3)What software is worth the trouble to get (I HATE PIRATES)
Pirates are, certainly, to be avoided.
Of the mass of Apple II+, IIe, and IIgs software produced during
the 80's and early 90's, only a tiny bit is available from any
commercial source or from individuals. Most new users depend upon help
from local Apple II Club libraries, copies from friends, and downloads
from the major Apple II software archive sites.
The listing below is from our newsgroup's Apple II FAQs maintained
on Ground at ... ftp://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2/Faqs
Major Apple II Information and Software Sites
Apple2 Caltech- large collection of II/IIgs games and utilities
ftp://apple2.caltech.edu/zocalo/pub/apple2
Asimov- #1 archive of out-of-print games and utilities in
emulator DSK and file formats; plus emulators and emu info
ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II
Asimov-GS- Major archive of old IIgs software
ftp://24.64.240.136
Asimov-GS Mirror- Mirror and major archive of old IIgs software
ftp://apple.cabi.net/pub/applegs/
Ground Apple2 U. Iowa- home site of Csa2 FAQs; games, utilities,
HC/HS stacks, music files, ..., and information in several
collections including the AOL A2 archives
ftp://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2
http://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/2/apple2
GS WorldView 'zine- II/IIgs applications articles, games, utilities,
A2-2000 archive, and links; home site for 1WSW
http://www.grin.net/~cturley/gsezine/GS.WorldView/
Uni-kl.de Apple2 U. Kaiserslautern-- II/IIgs games, utilities, and
emulator wares
ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub0/apple2/disk_images
Other Important Apple II Sites
Apple2 U. Kentucky- A2 archive
ftp://f.ms.uky.edu:/pub/appleII
Apple2 U. Michagan- A2 archive
ftp://apple2.archive.umich.edu/archive/apple2/
Apple2 U. Washington- comp.binaries.apple2 access
ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/usenet/comp.binaries.apple2/
Apple II Software- A2 software, BASIC Lessons
http://www.iglou.com/qwerty/kb/dlfiles.html#53
Apple II WWW and FTP Sites- comprehensive A2 & A3 links list
http://www.cstone.net/~rbraun/apple2/a2ftp.html#web
Apple Computer- mainly, GS system software
ftp://ftp.apple.com/dts/aii
http://www.apple.com/support
Apple Computer- license information
http://developer.apple.com/mkt/registering/swl/agreements.html
Delphi- A2-oriented net access service
http://www.delphi.com/
International Apple II BBS List- A2 BBS sites and phone numbers
http://home.earthlink.net/~gabesanchez/
(see file a2bbs...)
KansasFest Web Page- KansasFest information
http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest.html
KulaSoft- Stocks Eamon Adventures, A2 software, Index
http://www.angelfire.com/hi/kulasoft
L.J. Silicon's Treasure Chest- Apple II software
http://members.aol.com/ljsilicon/index.html
Mother of All Apple II Web Pages- links
http://www.syndicomm.com/a2web/
Nathan Mates's Website- Nathan's A2 Faqs
http://www.visi.com/~nathan/
Odessa Entertainment- on-line entertainment 'zines
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rembrandt/2/comp.html
Oxford U. Libraries- FAQs listings
http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/
Texas II- Appleworks products and information; home site for
Beverly Cadieux's Apple II Mail Group (A2MG)
http://members.aol.com/A2MG/
The Giant List- listing of games and authors
http://www.dadgum.com/glist/list.html
Treasure Chest Project- Willie Yeo's list of A2 software
reclassified as freeware or shareware
http://www.tals.dis.qut.edu.au/staff/willie/treasurechest/
> 4)Since I don't have the startup disk(?) I've been in the Basic(?) mode.
That can be pretty frustrating! The easiest way to get a startup
disk is from a local Apple II users' group. If you can not find one,
another route is to contact one of the regular Csa2 (comp.sys.apple2)
posters via email. (Expect to pay $3 or so for postage and the
diskette.)
> I
> wanted to know where I can find a basic listing of commands.
Check out these sites (from the above listing)
Apple II Software (BASIC lessons)
Nathan Mates's Website (BASIC manual)
Our newsgroup FAQs file on DOS and ProDOS should be helpful, too. I'll
send a copy attached to an email.
Rubywand