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Comment by ☕️ Morgan

Re: "Well, every big corp in the World Wide Web is closing their..."

In: u/ResetReboot

@ResetReboot suspecting the worst is the best way to give engineering input, anyway :) so it's fair enough. It's an interesting idea/feature/misfeature--thanks for posting :)

I dunno, maybe I am too naïve--I kinda feel like the battle has moved on here, as with my post "What dystopia?" and idiomdrottning's response. I mean ... it's open source, discussed in public, open working groups ... there are other browsers that are compatible, also open and well supported ... it feels like the tech part is great.

Now I think it's more a problem of, okay, the tech is great, but are we using it right.

No harm in being vigilant about the tech getting worse, of course--imagine where we'd be if nobody had built a good-enough iPhone rival in time--but it doesn't worry me overly just right now.

☕️ Morgan

2023-07-22 · 8 months ago

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🦉 ResetReboot [OP] · 2023-07-22 at 20:28:

@Morgan Yeah, I mean, constructive input regarding the dangers of certain technologies, can help. But in the end, we are seeing a lot of power to decide to put certain technologies into the hands of a corporation (and only one at that) to say "This is what Internet should be like".

Just like the other day, one Geminaut was lamenting how hard is to set up your own email server if you expect it to work with certain provider. And does it have ever deterred spam, all that tech? No, my spam folder keeps getting filled daily and what keeps it usable are the filters. But it has deterred anyone with the know-how to put up their email server if they wish to. I see the same potential here.

☕️ Morgan · 2023-07-23 at 06:10:

Hmm, I haven't had problems with spam for years; but maybe my setup is unusual: my own domains forwarding to free email.

I like this setup because I control the domain and can switch actual email providers if I like. Also, I forward everything @ the domain, so I can give out a different email address to every signup/contact. This means I can tell who leaked the email address I gave them.

The only time I remember it not working well is one company had a problem on their side causing their forwarded emails to be marked as spam ... they could only send successfully direct to the free address.

I use nearlyfreespeech.net for domain management and email forwarding, they also do minimal spam filtering but I never had problems there.

I guess the downside is cost. Email is tied so much into account access and online identity that it seems worth it to have long term control.

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🦉 ResetReboot

Well, every big corp in the World Wide Web is closing their open access to their sites and APIs, so it was only time Google decided the World Wide Web is *their* API and close it to be used the *approved way*. Link to Reddit, beware. [https link] Google's New Web Environment Integrity (read DRM)

💬 9 comments · 2023-07-22 · 8 months ago