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[2023-03-13T01:07:18Z] <phoebos> midfavila: you need _POSIX_C_SOURCE >= 2 || _XOPEN_SOURCE
[2023-03-13T01:11:03Z] <midfavila> yeah i found out from the manpages
[2023-03-13T01:11:08Z] <midfavila> it's just annoying that it's not posix by default
[2023-03-13T02:07:33Z] <phoebos> since glibc 2.19, they should be defined by default
[2023-03-13T02:15:34Z] <shokara> muh glibc
[2023-03-13T02:47:20Z] <rohan> someone have a source for bri?
[2023-03-13T02:59:19Z] <midfavila> ugh, i fucking hate how everything doesn't just *have* an app, but it now *needs* an app
[2023-03-13T03:15:24Z] <testuser[m]123> Hi
[2023-03-13T04:11:26Z] <sewn> Hi
[2023-03-13T04:57:21Z] <Ellowee[m]> Stop buying into proprietary and smack the nearest cattle into submission to do the same
[2023-03-13T06:08:29Z] <drez> » [18:59:57] <shokara> what's wrong with ffplay? | well ffmpeg is kind of big
[2023-03-13T06:08:56Z] <drez> I wonder what's the most KISS way to play back PCM audio, on Linux at least
[2023-03-13T06:10:09Z] <drez> mpg123 might be cool for mpeg audio
[2023-03-13T06:11:16Z] <drez> I wonder if SoX is better than FFmpeg
[2023-03-13T06:13:15Z] <drez> piping into aplay might be an option as well
[2023-03-13T06:13:58Z] <drez> Although, for extreme minimalism projects, I hear OSS is better
[2023-03-13T06:44:28Z] <sewn> <drez> "I wonder what's the most KISS..." <- tinyalsa probably
[2023-03-13T06:44:41Z] <sewn> also ffmpeg is fucking everywhere why would you want to replace it
[2023-03-13T06:44:51Z] <sewn> I don't see it has any problems
[2023-03-13T06:47:41Z] <drez> audio is complex
[2023-03-13T06:48:25Z] <drez> I would like a JACK-centric A/V system
[2023-03-13T12:14:21Z] <sewn> <rohan> "is he here?" <- yes he is
[2023-03-13T12:14:25Z] <sewn> also are you still using spotifyd?
[2023-03-13T12:14:43Z] <sewn> try having a look at spotify-player its really amazing
[2023-03-13T14:46:54Z] <dotkwa[m]> speaking of audio, youtube videos are broken when i play them through mpv now..
[2023-03-13T15:50:56Z] <midfavila> sewn: maybe because ffmpeg has support for literally hundreds of formats, most of which are completely irrelevant if all you want is to play some music
[2023-03-13T15:51:13Z] <midfavila> as a result of that it has a huge list of dependencies
[2023-03-13T15:51:16Z] <sewn> you can disable them
[2023-03-13T15:51:55Z] <midfavila> that only has a marginal impact on the dependency tree, and it's *still* a massive project in and of itself
[2023-03-13T15:52:04Z] <midfavila> far more than what one would need to simply play back an mp3 or an ogg
[2023-03-13T15:55:03Z] <sewn> how would one play a normal 320kbps mp3 or flac on linux without ffmpeg in 2023
[2023-03-13T15:55:52Z] <midfavila> probably mpg123 or 321 in the case of the former
[2023-03-13T15:56:01Z] <midfavila> in the case of the latter, don't know, don't care. use a real audio format. 
[2023-03-13T15:56:09Z] <midfavila> sick and tired of acting like listening from FLACs is a reasonable thing.
[2023-03-13T16:05:46Z] <sewn> i dont target flac
[2023-03-13T16:05:52Z] <sewn> all of the music i get is always in flac
[2023-03-13T16:05:57Z] <sewn> soooooooooo
[2023-03-13T16:06:36Z] <sewn> damn it actually plays my music woa
[2023-03-13T16:06:44Z] <sewn> ok then how would i play videos without ffmpeg
[2023-03-13T16:07:26Z] <midfavila> you could use xine.
[2023-03-13T16:08:52Z] <sewn> ok damn xine is better than mpg123
[2023-03-13T16:08:56Z] <sewn> you got me mid
[2023-03-13T16:09:34Z] <midfavila> :smug:
[2023-03-13T16:15:20Z] <midfavila> :OOOO
[2023-03-13T16:15:20Z] <midfavila> it's finally a reasonable temperature again. can go out with just a vest 
[2023-03-13T16:40:01Z] <dotkwa[m]> what's wrong with flac
[2023-03-13T16:40:02Z] <dotkwa[m]> too fat for you?
[2023-03-13T16:44:23Z] <midfavila> unnecessary for day to day listening
[2023-03-13T16:47:20Z] <midfavila> i *love* how my government's response to ongoing housing shortages and ridiculous rent prices is to give low-income individuals 500$... *once*. and nothing else.
[2023-03-13T16:47:25Z] * midfavila slow-claps
[2023-03-13T17:01:57Z] <Ellowee[m]> >Trickle down economics joke here<
[2023-03-13T17:03:04Z] <midfavila> "It all just trickles down!"
[2023-03-13T17:03:21Z] <midfavila> https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/778261
[2023-03-13T17:03:23Z] <midfavila> linkrel
[2023-03-13T17:16:31Z] <midfavila> btw has anyone picked up kiss-games?
[2023-03-13T17:16:34Z] <midfavila> if not I will 
[2023-03-13T17:38:26Z] <Ellowee[m]> Has anyone tried building barony in kiss
[2023-03-13T17:52:05Z] <midfavila> https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=J2Y0GfSyXAs
[2023-03-13T18:31:40Z] <sewn> i love steam gaymes
[2023-03-13T18:33:26Z] <shokara_> mmm steampunk
[2023-03-13T18:34:28Z] <midfavila> punkpunk
[2023-03-13T18:56:27Z] <sewn> steamsteam
[2023-03-13T22:41:16Z] <Torr> Ahoy
[2023-03-13T22:41:23Z] <midfavila> hey
[2023-03-13T22:41:58Z] <Torr> o/
[2023-03-13T22:42:43Z] <midfavila> what's up?
[2023-03-13T22:47:07Z] <rohan> sewn: i not use anymore if you wanna i drop it and you can maintain other package, i just maintain for other users
[2023-03-13T22:47:55Z] <rohan> anyone here have a hyprland build for wayland only? without xwayland
[2023-03-13T22:48:09Z] <Torr> midfavila:  Very sluguish today zzzZZZ
[2023-03-13T22:48:10Z] <rohan> also anyone have a source for bri?
[2023-03-13T22:48:22Z] <midfavila> i feel that torr. nap?
[2023-03-13T22:49:44Z] <Torr> midfavila: I tried a little, but had 0 success.
[2023-03-13T22:50:13Z] <midfavila> unlucky
[2023-03-13T22:50:18Z] <midfavila> sorry to hear
[2023-03-13T22:50:46Z] <Torr> I'll sleep later.
[2023-03-13T22:51:10Z] <Torr> Will have a look at this soon: https://github.com/rnpgp/rnp
[2023-03-13T22:51:25Z] <Torr> It's a Netpgp successor.
[2023-03-13T22:51:29Z] <midfavila> neat
[2023-03-13T22:51:37Z] <midfavila> i really need to get back into programming... haven't done any for weeks
[2023-03-13T22:51:55Z] <midfavila> aside from like, adding a preproc directive to apport
[2023-03-13T22:54:30Z] <Torr> U intend to design your own arch iirc, right?
[2023-03-13T22:55:24Z] <midfavila> as in ISA? at some point Soon:tm: that would be nice
[2023-03-13T22:55:39Z] <midfavila> i'm nowheres near anything like that right now though
[2023-03-13T22:58:54Z] <Torr> Well, that's a big project. I would have no idea where to start ;P
[2023-03-13T23:01:07Z] <Torr> Maaaan, inflation is through the roof these days.
[2023-03-13T23:01:14Z] <midfavila> you're telling me 
[2023-03-13T23:01:35Z] <midfavila> i'm going to need to apply for government assistance soon to help pay rent. with the cost of food and everything it's barely affordable
[2023-03-13T23:02:55Z] <Torr> Yeah, was doing a few calculations on groceries, some items are up by 34% in a year.
[2023-03-13T23:04:15Z] <Ellowee[m]> Would be nice if people did a little whacky hack and decided to do single-room apartments just to have addresses and ditch housing costs
[2023-03-13T23:04:24Z] <Ellowee[m]> Silly stuff I know
[2023-03-13T23:06:14Z] <midfavila> no that's a thing here
[2023-03-13T23:06:44Z] <midfavila> still hard to afford for a lot of people
[2023-03-13T23:10:08Z] <Torr> Be back soon
[2023-03-13T23:13:45Z] <Torr> back
[2023-03-13T23:13:54Z] <midfavila> that was quick
[2023-03-13T23:14:04Z] <Torr> ;)
[2023-03-13T23:15:20Z] <Torr> Ellowee[m]: housing costs will certainly take a hit once the next real state bubble pops.
[2023-03-13T23:37:07Z] <midfavila> would you guys say that something like kilo is a reasonable alternative to GNU Nano?
[2023-03-13T23:38:00Z] <Torr> This: https://github.com/antirez/kilo ?
[2023-03-13T23:38:03Z] <midfavila> haven't used kilo much but it seems fairly straightforward and easy to use
[2023-03-13T23:38:03Z] <midfavila> yes
[2023-03-13T23:38:41Z] <Torr> One... file...
[2023-03-13T23:38:44Z] <Torr> Wow
[2023-03-13T23:39:48Z] <Torr> midfavila: 1st time seeing it.
[2023-03-13T23:40:01Z] <midfavila> somewhat surprising, it's oft discussed here
[2023-03-13T23:40:05Z] <midfavila> but yeah it's a neat little program
[2023-03-13T23:40:14Z] <midfavila> i think there's a small book that walks you through writing it, too
[2023-03-13T23:41:18Z] <Torr> The code looks clean.
[2023-03-13T23:41:53Z] <Torr> midfavila: Books like those are comfy.