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[2023-01-22T02:50:24Z] <sewn> Hi
[2023-01-22T03:01:37Z] <sad_plan> hi sewn 
[2023-01-22T03:07:02Z] <saturn[m]> o/
[2023-01-22T03:08:14Z] <niceguy5000[m]> \o!!!!!!!!
[2023-01-22T04:38:35Z] <testuser[m]> Hi
[2023-01-22T08:24:58Z] <niceguy5000[m]> I go and rust the future!!!
[2023-01-22T08:25:05Z] <niceguy5000[m]> s/I/Is/
[2023-01-22T08:26:29Z] <testuser[m]> Ye
[2023-01-22T08:27:17Z] <sewn> Yes and you WILL like it
[2023-01-22T08:31:39Z] <niceguy5000[m]> go has static builds by default, non of this dynamic non sense.
[2023-01-22T08:55:28Z] <sewn> So does rust
[2023-01-22T13:05:47Z] <sewn> ngl i randomly feel like making my own kiss fork of grepo and kiss-xorg 
[2023-01-22T13:19:44Z] <saturn[m]> <niceguy5000[m]> "I go and rust the future!!!" <- yes…… and so is gnome linux gaming flatpak.. i love redhat!! i love dbus!!!
[2023-01-22T13:20:02Z] <sewn> you and virtualmachine man would do a great duo
[2023-01-22T13:20:44Z] <saturn[m]> who is that
[2023-01-22T13:20:52Z] <sewn> he's not here unfortunately
[2023-01-22T13:22:18Z] <saturn[m]> so sad
[2023-01-22T18:48:07Z] <sad_plan> sewn: did you actually end up using toybox? or did you simply revert back to busybox again?
[2023-01-22T18:51:25Z] <sewn> I decided I don't care
[2023-01-22T18:51:46Z] <sewn> I don't have proper replacement of busybox yet
[2023-01-22T18:52:04Z] <sewn> like service manager, init, coreutils, util-linux like, etc
[2023-01-22T18:54:30Z] <sad_plan> I see. perp wasnt to your liking after all? 
[2023-01-22T18:55:08Z] <sewn> I barely even looked at it
[2023-01-22T18:55:12Z] <sad_plan> I see
[2023-01-22T18:55:29Z] <sewn> I'll look into it after perfecting my kernel config
[2023-01-22T18:57:33Z] <sad_plan> do that. oh, you can also still use runit. just make a custom busybox config which only enables the service manager. hell, you can enable the init aswell, and use something else for the rest of coreutils etc..
[2023-01-22T18:57:36Z] <sad_plan> just an idea
[2023-01-22T18:58:30Z] <sad_plan> howver, theres always the argument if all components off busybox isnt replaced, why not just use busybox
[2023-01-22T18:58:54Z] <sewn> because busybox ls is terrible
[2023-01-22T18:58:57Z] <sewn> its featureless
[2023-01-22T18:59:04Z] <sewn> to me atleast
[2023-01-22T18:59:09Z] <sad_plan> replace just busybox ls?
[2023-01-22T18:59:14Z] <sad_plan> with toyboxes
[2023-01-22T18:59:16Z] <sewn> with what????
[2023-01-22T18:59:24Z] <sewn> why mam
[2023-01-22T18:59:30Z] <sad_plan> or whichever one you see fit
[2023-01-22T18:59:33Z] <sewn> Why would I have two of the bloody bastards
[2023-01-22T19:00:02Z] <sad_plan> to have exacly what you need
[2023-01-22T19:00:09Z] <sad_plan> its called tailoring your system to your needs
[2023-01-22T19:00:33Z] <sad_plan> if toybox ls is all you need from toybox, you dont need to build anything else from it
[2023-01-22T19:00:54Z] <sewn> man
[2023-01-22T19:00:56Z] <sad_plan> you can obviously also just repack busybox and have the toybox included in the package
[2023-01-22T19:01:55Z] <sewn> plz no
[2023-01-22T19:02:09Z] <sewn> id honestly have only one coreutils
[2023-01-22T19:02:41Z] <sewn> honestly rather*
[2023-01-22T19:04:17Z] <sad_plan> technically youre for the most part using only 1. or.. 99.9% 1, or something
[2023-01-22T19:05:41Z] <sewn> plz
[2023-01-22T19:06:19Z] <sad_plan> it was just an idea. 
[2023-01-22T19:08:31Z] <sewn> I have been thinking of trying out s(u)base as well cuz meh
[2023-01-22T19:08:51Z] <sewn> toybox is unstable and busybox is unnecessarily huge
[2023-01-22T19:09:09Z] <sewn> sbase+ubase is just very minimal, but if only it had -v 
[2023-01-22T19:12:07Z] <sad_plan> s/ubase is rather small indeed, and it works somewhat sufficently for lots of usecases, but its also broken in some instances aswell
[2023-01-22T19:12:33Z] <sad_plan> like sbase sed and tr cant build nss iirc
[2023-01-22T19:12:43Z] <sewn> is there any others that are on par with toybox interms of completion 
[2023-01-22T19:12:44Z] <sad_plan> nss is needed to build firefox. 
[2023-01-22T19:13:28Z] <sad_plan> not really. theres lots of utils out there, but most are.. lacking
[2023-01-22T19:13:54Z] <sewn> shiiiiiiiii
[2023-01-22T19:14:04Z] <sad_plan> you could always fetch the sources for all the stuff youd want, and create a new util with all the utils youd want though
[2023-01-22T19:14:37Z] <sad_plan> like fetch only the neccessary bits for toybox ls, use busybox tar etc.. it would take some tinkering to get up and running though
[2023-01-22T19:14:50Z] <sewn> terrible idea however
[2023-01-22T19:14:55Z] <sad_plan> perhaps
[2023-01-22T19:15:02Z] <sad_plan> but youd get exacly what you want though
[2023-01-22T19:15:23Z] <sewn> amalgamateutils
[2023-01-22T19:16:46Z] <sad_plan> something like that.
[2023-01-22T21:14:32Z] <niceguy5000[m]> o/!!
[2023-01-22T22:47:31Z] <tprepper> Hello, what do the $/, @/ and #/ mean on the website? Sorry if it's said somewhere and I missed it...
[2023-01-22T22:51:51Z] <niceguy5000[m]> Chatgpt is the future it solved your problem easily. This is what it does.
[2023-01-22T22:51:51Z] <niceguy5000[m]> ```It is likely that the website you are referring to uses the $/, @/, and #/ symbols as part of its URL structure or as a way to indicate certain types of content or sections of the website. Without more information about the specific website you are asking about, it is difficult to provide a specific explanation. Can you please provide me the url or the name of the website ?```
[2023-01-22T22:52:34Z] <niceguy5000[m]> The $/ is the sign of the flac files, @/ is the sign of the mp3 files, and #/ is the sign of the video files.
[2023-01-22T22:52:34Z] <niceguy5000[m]> It's a way to indicate the different format of the content, it helps users to find the file format they are looking for.
[2023-01-22T22:52:34Z] <niceguy5000[m]>  * ````... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/7876edfe3802f11040a475be1f62afa1eec33d6e>)
[2023-01-22T22:52:43Z] <niceguy5000[m]>  * ````... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/4c99505552e023cec520d1d9c0c6ee29d93e8069>)
[2023-01-22T22:55:45Z] <tprepper> lol
[2023-01-22T22:58:54Z] <illiliti> $/ is user/org on github, @/ is relative link, #/ is same as @/
[2023-01-22T22:59:10Z] <illiliti> they are self-explanatory mostly
[2023-01-22T23:01:35Z] <tprepper> Why have both #/ and @/?
[2023-01-22T23:02:36Z] <illiliti> dunno
[2023-01-22T23:02:41Z] <illiliti> probably leftover
[2023-01-22T23:21:54Z] <illiliti> https://www.moria.us/blog/2023/01/stop-writing-tools-in-c