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[2021-06-26T00:40:43Z] <midfavila-laptop> http://0x0.st/-pT6.png
[2021-06-26T00:40:51Z] <midfavila-laptop> working on a new theme for shod
[2021-06-26T00:41:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> still has some kinks to work out, but I think it's looking alright so far
[2021-06-26T00:43:24Z] <riteo> hiii!
[2021-06-26T00:43:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> Hey, Riteo.
[2021-06-26T00:43:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> you just missed my super amazing 1337 screenshot
[2021-06-26T00:43:53Z] <riteo> nooooooooooooooooooo
[2021-06-26T00:43:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's right
[2021-06-26T00:44:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> and now you'll never get to see it
[2021-06-26T00:44:12Z] <midfavila-laptop> unless you somehow have channel logs, but that's impossible
[2021-06-26T00:44:12Z] <riteo> furry
[2021-06-26T00:44:22Z] <riteo> cool drawing actually
[2021-06-26T00:44:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> an astute observation, as always
[2021-06-26T00:44:28Z] <midfavila-laptop> and yes, it is
[2021-06-26T00:44:32Z] <riteo> it looks mildly familiar
[2021-06-26T00:44:40Z] <riteo> is it THAT furry?
[2021-06-26T00:44:44Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...probably?
[2021-06-26T00:44:48Z] <riteo> wait lemme check
[2021-06-26T00:44:49Z] <midfavila-laptop> he makes a lot of music and is fairly well-known
[2021-06-26T00:44:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> but I can't recall his name off the top of my head...
[2021-06-26T00:44:59Z] <riteo> oh it's probably he then
[2021-06-26T00:45:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> renard
[2021-06-26T00:45:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> that's it
[2021-06-26T00:45:17Z] <riteo> I don't remember the name but I feel like that's him 
[2021-06-26T00:45:20Z] <riteo> lemme check just in case
[2021-06-26T00:45:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> kk
[2021-06-26T00:46:09Z] <riteo> yup
[2021-06-26T00:46:14Z] <riteo> that's him
[2021-06-26T00:46:22Z] * midfavila-laptop nods
[2021-06-26T00:46:35Z] <riteo> IIRC they've had a long story
[2021-06-26T00:46:42Z] <midfavila-laptop> wouldn't surprise me
[2021-06-26T00:46:47Z] <midfavila-laptop> renard's been active on the net for like
[2021-06-26T00:46:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> fifteen, sixteen years, I want to say
[2021-06-26T00:48:06Z] <riteo> holy shit https://lapfoxtrax.fandom.com/wiki/Aliases
[2021-06-26T00:48:54Z] <midfavila-laptop> yep.
[2021-06-26T00:48:58Z] <riteo> https://lapfoxtrax.fandom.com/wiki/Emma_Essex
[2021-06-26T00:49:03Z] <riteo> she even changed sex AFAICT
[2021-06-26T00:49:36Z] <riteo> god those songs are still bangers after a long time
[2021-06-26T00:50:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah, renard makes good music.
[2021-06-26T00:50:52Z] <riteo> did she make penis music
[2021-06-26T00:50:57Z] <riteo> wait a second
[2021-06-26T00:50:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> probably.
[2021-06-26T00:51:02Z] <midfavila-laptop> like, almost certainly.
[2021-06-26T00:51:11Z] <riteo> omg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6aCaDqxRIc
[2021-06-26T00:51:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> >youtube
[2021-06-26T00:51:23Z] <midfavila-laptop> I'm disappointed in you.
[2021-06-26T00:51:41Z] <riteo> I still haven't bothered to find a mirror that isn't like extra slow
[2021-06-26T00:51:55Z] <riteo> I already use those for everything else though
[2021-06-26T00:51:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> instances.invidio.us should help
[2021-06-26T00:52:12Z] <riteo> last time I looked they were all slow or banned
[2021-06-26T00:52:53Z] * midfavila-laptop shrugs
[2021-06-26T00:53:08Z] <riteo> oh now it's quite fast!
[2021-06-26T00:53:17Z] <riteo> I chose a pretty small instance and it's great!
[2021-06-26T00:53:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> yeah, smaller instances are generally better than larger ones.
[2021-06-26T00:53:53Z] <riteo> if only there was a way of redirecting me to those other domains...
[2021-06-26T00:53:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> my script randomly redirects traffic to various instances. helps with load distribution... you'd think they would have a "mixer" or something, that served you randomly
[2021-06-26T00:54:08Z] <riteo> would editing the hosts file work?
[2021-06-26T00:54:19Z] <midfavila-laptop> i tried fiddling with DNS in the past
[2021-06-26T00:54:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> i don't recall success
[2021-06-26T00:54:29Z] <riteo> the random traffic idea is great
[2021-06-26T00:55:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> i have good ideas sometimes
[2021-06-26T00:56:41Z] <noocsharp> i feel like i've heard of a protocol which allows you to downloads bits of data from peers in a sort of torrent
[2021-06-26T00:56:45Z] <noocsharp> forget what it's called tho
[2021-06-26T00:56:52Z] <midfavila-laptop> webtorrent
[2021-06-26T00:56:55Z] <riteo> webrtc?
[2021-06-26T00:56:57Z] <midfavila-laptop> peertube uses it
[2021-06-26T00:56:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> no
[2021-06-26T00:57:03Z] <midfavila-laptop> ...maybe..?
[2021-06-26T00:57:09Z] <midfavila-laptop> i don't actually know, when it comes to webrtc...
[2021-06-26T00:57:11Z] <riteo> peertube uses webrtc though IIRC
[2021-06-26T00:57:17Z] <midfavila-laptop> i've only heard of it being used for video calls
[2021-06-26T00:57:27Z] <noocsharp> you can download peertube videos over bittorrent
[2021-06-26T00:57:33Z] <riteo> oh right it uses webtorrent
[2021-06-26T00:57:47Z] <riteo> for some reason I was sure they used WebRTC
[2021-06-26T00:58:40Z] <riteo> I'm a bit skeptical about using those p2p youtube instances
[2021-06-26T00:58:46Z] <riteo> at least without a VPN
[2021-06-26T00:58:57Z] <noocsharp> why?
[2021-06-26T00:59:23Z] <riteo> well, you can basically get the view history of an IP with not that many resources
[2021-06-26T01:00:29Z] <noocsharp> unfortunately youtube does the same thing
[2021-06-26T01:00:33Z] <midfavila-laptop> i was gonna say
[2021-06-26T01:00:56Z] <midfavila-laptop> i'd rather a bunch of nobodies who like the same stuff as me have my IP than Google.
[2021-06-26T01:00:59Z] <riteo> noocsharp: yes, but everyone can get your history, and it can get way more anonymous with invidious
[2021-06-26T01:01:23Z] <riteo> one person hosting the server getting your view history is better than everyone
[2021-06-26T01:01:38Z] <noocsharp> how is invidious more anonymous?
[2021-06-26T01:01:43Z] <acheam> midfavila-laptop: is that... a compositor?
[2021-06-26T01:01:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> it is
[2021-06-26T01:01:55Z] <midfavila-laptop> i make regular use of compositors
[2021-06-26T01:02:08Z] <midfavila-laptop> they help reduce screentearing, but also I like fading and dropshadows. sue me.
[2021-06-26T01:02:22Z] <acheam> see you in small claims court mf
[2021-06-26T01:02:25Z] <midfavila-laptop> anyway, invidious proxies your traffic
[2021-06-26T01:02:31Z] <acheam> not necessarily
[2021-06-26T01:02:41Z] <acheam> most of the time the video is still served by googlevideo.com
[2021-06-26T01:02:54Z] <riteo> noocsharp: you connect to youtube along with (preferably a lot of people) to a server that gets the video
[2021-06-26T01:03:03Z] <acheam> very few instances proxy video because of the high bandwidth
[2021-06-26T01:03:29Z] <midfavila-laptop> ultimately the whole thing is bullshit. you either give your data to google or give it to other people. there's not much else you can do.
[2021-06-26T01:03:36Z] <noocsharp> oh, i was under the assumption that that's invidious proxies because the quality seems to be lower
[2021-06-26T01:03:44Z] <riteo> oh
[2021-06-26T01:03:49Z] <midfavila-laptop> short of like, go to a library, download the video, go back home, watch it
[2021-06-26T01:03:59Z] <riteo> so what's different than using google's youtube? Not using JS?
[2021-06-26T01:04:12Z] <noocsharp> tor + youtube-dl
[2021-06-26T01:04:40Z] <riteo> bruh are you gonna slow youtube-dl down because you're scared that google might see what you're whatching
[2021-06-26T01:04:43Z] <riteo> god
[2021-06-26T01:04:44Z] <riteo> I'm stupid
[2021-06-26T01:04:46Z] <riteo> tor, I meant tor
[2021-06-26T01:05:16Z] <noocsharp> indeed
[2021-06-26T01:05:20Z] <midfavila-laptop> https://lapfoxtrax.fandom.com/wiki/Jackal_Queenston
[2021-06-26T01:05:24Z] <midfavila-laptop> renard is cancelled
[2021-06-26T01:05:55Z] <noocsharp> this is #kisslinux not #furry
[2021-06-26T01:05:58Z] <riteo> that's Jackal mid
[2021-06-26T01:06:07Z] <noocsharp> we have to draw a line somewhere
[2021-06-26T01:06:10Z] <midfavila-laptop> fight me, noocsharp
[2021-06-26T01:06:13Z] <midfavila-laptop> rn
[2021-06-26T01:06:21Z] <midfavila-laptop> fuckin, tryin' to oppress me
[2021-06-26T01:06:22Z] <riteo> noocsharp: you answered yourself, this's #kisslinux
[2021-06-26T01:06:54Z] <noocsharp> true
[2021-06-26T01:09:00Z] <midfavila> besides,
[2021-06-26T01:09:03Z] <midfavila> #furry is too cringe, even for me
[2021-06-26T01:09:17Z] <midfavila> i lasted like five minutes before I gave up
[2021-06-26T01:10:12Z] <noocsharp> christ, i was hoping your response would be "haha, funny, #furry doesn't exist"
[2021-06-26T01:10:46Z] <riteo> it exists?
[2021-06-26T01:10:46Z] <midfavila-laptop> Man, I wish that was my response, too.
[2021-06-26T01:10:48Z] <midfavila-laptop> Yes.
[2021-06-26T01:10:58Z] <midfavila-laptop> It was one of the first channels registered.
[2021-06-26T01:11:08Z] <riteo> wow, I don't know why but I didn't expect it here on LiberaChat
[2021-06-26T01:11:18Z] <riteo> it's also true that furries are like the backbone of the internet for some reason
[2021-06-26T01:11:26Z] <midfavila-laptop> yup.
[2021-06-26T01:11:29Z] <riteo> so I should've definitely have expected that
[2021-06-26T01:11:42Z] <riteo> have have
[2021-06-26T01:13:35Z] <riteo> I feel like my launcher has reached the "just usable" point
[2021-06-26T01:13:50Z] <midfavila-laptop> is it just in shell, or what?
[2021-06-26T01:13:57Z] <riteo> just in POSIX* shell
[2021-06-26T01:14:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> *
[2021-06-26T01:14:04Z] <riteo> still haven't tested
[2021-06-26T01:14:22Z] <riteo> although I put /bin/sh as the shebang
[2021-06-26T01:14:30Z] <midfavila-laptop> good enough for me
[2021-06-26T01:15:07Z] <GalaxyNova> shellcheck it
[2021-06-26T01:15:11Z] <riteo> It's still very messy and I could defintely put it through shellcheck and do some proper formatting but it's actually pretty fast at doing stuff like verifying stuff
[2021-06-26T01:15:18Z] <riteo> lol I got ninja'd
[2021-06-26T01:15:34Z] <riteo> I'm sure it's gonna puke
[2021-06-26T01:15:40Z] <GalaxyNova> lol
[2021-06-26T01:16:01Z] <riteo> oh it's not that bad
[2021-06-26T01:16:31Z] <riteo> I didn't know posix only had = for conditions
[2021-06-26T01:16:38Z] <riteo> I thought that == would work fine
[2021-06-26T01:17:01Z] <midfavila-laptop> that got me the other day
[2021-06-26T01:17:35Z] <riteo> those suggestions are actually way more complete than I expected
[2021-06-26T01:17:54Z] <riteo> I quite like it
[2021-06-26T01:18:44Z] <riteo> if someone cares I might share it already, although I warn you: it's still very shitty
[2021-06-26T01:27:12Z] <GalaxyNova> riteo: sure
[2021-06-26T01:28:13Z] <midfavila> i'm shocked and disappointed that wmctrl isn't packaged officially
[2021-06-26T01:28:24Z] <riteo> GalaxyNova: let me tidy it up a bit then
[2021-06-26T01:28:29Z] <riteo> I'll surely keep it unformatted though
[2021-06-26T01:29:29Z] <riteo> thinking about it, would it be an issue if I made the help screen similar to the one of KISS?
[2021-06-26T01:29:58Z] <GalaxyNova> why would it be an issue
[2021-06-26T01:30:10Z] <riteo> I already did my own interpretation of that cool formatting it had with an arrow, like, errors are a red "XX", warnings are a yellow "!!" and info messages are a green "->"
[2021-06-26T01:30:25Z] <riteo> GalaxyNova: I don't know, that's why I ask
[2021-06-26T01:30:38Z] <riteo> I know it sounds silly, but maybe it would be considered... Plagiarism?
[2021-06-26T01:30:57Z] <midfavila> i get how you feel
[2021-06-26T01:30:57Z] <GalaxyNova> idk if using a color scheme is plagiarism
[2021-06-26T01:31:03Z] <riteo> not only that
[2021-06-26T01:31:05Z] <midfavila> but that's like saying using K&R formatting is plaigarism
[2021-06-26T01:31:09Z] <GalaxyNova> it would make the script feel more integrated in kiss
[2021-06-26T01:31:15Z] <riteo> midfavila: good point
[2021-06-26T01:31:21Z] <riteo> GalaxyNova: that's kinda the idea
[2021-06-26T01:31:30Z] <GalaxyNova> i despise K&R formatting btw
[2021-06-26T01:31:30Z] <midfavila> also
[2021-06-26T01:31:34Z] <midfavila> speaking of packages
[2021-06-26T01:31:47Z] <midfavila> next time someone sees git-bruh, can he be asked to remove -t from the uthash buildfile?
[2021-06-26T01:31:54Z] <midfavila> it causes issues when using suckless userspace
[2021-06-26T01:32:05Z] <GalaxyNova> make an issue on github
[2021-06-26T01:32:13Z] <midfavila> i'm not using shithub.
[2021-06-26T01:32:19Z] <riteo> It still isn't that much integrated as I'm trying to concentrate more on the implementation than the interface, but it's already relatively configurable with enviroment variables
[2021-06-26T01:32:22Z] <GalaxyNova> ok
[2021-06-26T01:32:25Z] <GalaxyNova> I'll make an issue then
[2021-06-26T01:35:18Z] <GalaxyNova> riteo: I have an idea for a script
[2021-06-26T01:35:25Z] <GalaxyNova> that i could make
[2021-06-26T01:35:51Z] <GalaxyNova> basically, it would check to see if a package build file corresponds to the formatting guidelines of KISS
[2021-06-26T01:35:58Z] <acheam> nice
[2021-06-26T01:36:26Z] <riteo> it'd be a nice addition to the package development tools
[2021-06-26T01:36:29Z] <acheam> awk is great for that
[2021-06-26T01:36:58Z] <riteo> I mean, we already got the definitions nicely formatted in a shellcheck-y way
[2021-06-26T01:37:07Z] <GalaxyNova> Forgot my editor was set on tabs and then pr'ed a package
[2021-06-26T01:37:12Z] <GalaxyNova> it was merged and now i feel bad
[2021-06-26T01:37:25Z] <riteo> make another pr
[2021-06-26T01:37:36Z] <GalaxyNova> a pr just to fix the tabs?
[2021-06-26T01:37:56Z] <riteo> why not?
[2021-06-26T01:38:14Z] <GalaxyNova> I don't know if amending the commit will cause issues
[2021-06-26T01:38:14Z] <riteo> it's not like you pay to make PRs
[2021-06-26T01:38:36Z] <riteo> GalaxyNova: is the repo yours?
[2021-06-26T01:38:36Z] <GalaxyNova> sure then
[2021-06-26T01:38:39Z] <GalaxyNova> yes
[2021-06-26T01:38:49Z] <riteo> eh, it depends whether there are people forking it
[2021-06-26T01:38:50Z] <GalaxyNova> it's the slang and most packages
[2021-06-26T01:38:54Z] <GalaxyNova> that i maintain
[2021-06-26T01:38:58Z] <riteo> is this commit very recent?
[2021-06-26T01:39:03Z] <GalaxyNova> that have tabs in them instead of spaces
[2021-06-26T01:39:06Z] <GalaxyNova> it's 22 days old
[2021-06-26T01:39:16Z] <riteo> then don't amend it
[2021-06-26T01:39:36Z] <riteo> you're only risking big issues with people that cloned/forked your code
[2021-06-26T01:39:49Z] <GalaxyNova> That's what i was thinking
[2021-06-26T01:39:58Z] <GalaxyNova> but then how am i supposed to fix it
[2021-06-26T01:40:04Z] <riteo> make a commit for that
[2021-06-26T01:40:18Z] <riteo> maybe even do it with the rest of your packages while you're at it
[2021-06-26T01:40:18Z] <GalaxyNova> like just "most: changed tabs for spaces"??
[2021-06-26T01:40:28Z] <riteo> yes
[2021-06-26T01:40:35Z] <riteo> I fail to see why you're so skeptical
[2021-06-26T01:40:50Z] <GalaxyNova> i noticed with weechat and changed the tabs into spaces along with a bump
[2021-06-26T01:41:17Z] <GalaxyNova> riteo: it's in the community repository
[2021-06-26T01:41:44Z] <acheam> present tense in commits GalaxyNova 
[2021-06-26T01:41:54Z] <acheam> and yes that's fine
[2021-06-26T01:42:17Z] <GalaxyNova> there's also the fookin slang commit message that I messed up :(
[2021-06-26T01:42:18Z] <riteo> GalaxyNova: that changes nothing
[2021-06-26T01:42:40Z] <GalaxyNova> alright
[2021-06-26T01:42:48Z] <GalaxyNova> guess i'll make a pr swapping the tabs to spaces
[2021-06-26T01:43:10Z] <riteo> no ok I think I'll work on it just a little bit more in order to share it
[2021-06-26T01:43:44Z] <GalaxyNova> do you think it'd be fine if i just call it "most: changed tabs to spaces"
[2021-06-26T01:43:48Z] <GalaxyNova> and that would get accepted?
[2021-06-26T01:44:06Z] <riteo> as acheam pointed out before you should change the verb tense, but that's just a nitpick
[2021-06-26T01:44:10Z] <riteo> it'll surely get accepted
[2021-06-26T01:44:17Z] <riteo> Again, why not?
[2021-06-26T01:44:37Z] <GalaxyNova> i'll start using present tense
[2021-06-26T01:59:32Z] <noocsharp> i'm coming closer and closer to puttin an xmpp server on my vps
[2021-06-26T02:07:49Z] <dilyn> present tense and active voice are overrated 
[2021-06-26T02:10:11Z] <noocsharp> i mean some people end up overusing active voice because they're told it makes their writing clearer
[2021-06-26T02:10:17Z] <noocsharp> but often times it does make writing clearer
[2021-06-26T02:22:56Z] <dilyn> obfuscation is my preference 
[2021-06-26T02:26:06Z] <dilyn> http://0x0.st/-pal.txt this is the cruelest possible of jokes 
[2021-06-26T02:35:08Z] <noocsharp> kiss needs a way to resume failed builds
[2021-06-26T02:37:04Z] <riteo> :(
[2021-06-26T02:43:36Z] <acheam> noocsharp: ccache helps
[2021-06-26T02:44:23Z] <acheam> sorry, that issue could be helped by ccache
[2021-06-26T02:45:13Z] <acheam> excuse my lapsus lingus please
[2021-06-26T02:50:58Z] <noocsharp> im talking more like: build fails, tweak package, restart build from where it failed
[2021-06-26T02:51:16Z] <noocsharp> i guess it's possible to do manually with KISS_DEBUG or something
[2021-06-26T03:09:52Z] <midfavila> man, vsynced glx compositing is crazy-smooth
[2021-06-26T03:17:30Z] <riteo> cool!
[2021-06-26T03:18:04Z] <midfavila> https://github.com/morgant/mlvwm#SCREENSHOTS
[2021-06-26T03:18:06Z] <midfavila> speaking of cool
[2021-06-26T03:18:15Z] <midfavila> someone made a clone of the classic mac UI
[2021-06-26T03:18:52Z] <riteo> "Virtual" window manager?
[2021-06-26T03:18:56Z] <riteo> what does that mean?
[2021-06-26T03:19:01Z] <midfavila> Oh. It means it has virtual desks
[2021-06-26T03:19:06Z] <riteo> oh
[2021-06-26T03:19:09Z] <riteo> that's really cool
[2021-06-26T03:19:19Z] <midfavila> Yeah. Virtual desks are something I can't live without, now
[2021-06-26T03:21:26Z] <riteo> are they different from workspaces?
[2021-06-26T03:21:36Z] <midfavila> Not really. They're the same thing
[2021-06-26T03:21:46Z] <riteo> oh then I agree on their utility
[2021-06-26T03:22:09Z] <riteo> they're really really useful and way better than minimizing windows everywhere
[2021-06-26T03:25:43Z] <acheam> tags ftw
[2021-06-26T03:26:24Z] <riteo> I have no idea how they work
[2021-06-26T03:26:25Z] <midfavila> tags are cool, but they seem unnecessary 
[2021-06-26T03:26:44Z] <midfavila> tl;dr each desk can have a set of tags assigned to it, and any windows with those tags will appear on said desks
[2021-06-26T03:26:48Z] <acheam> theyre just a different work flow
[2021-06-26T03:26:48Z] <midfavila> at least, that's how I understand it
[2021-06-26T03:26:57Z] <acheam> ye
[2021-06-26T03:26:58Z] <midfavila> also, 
[2021-06-26T03:27:06Z] <acheam> you can use them just as workspaces as you want
[2021-06-26T03:27:06Z] <midfavila> >finally muster the courage to use nyxt
[2021-06-26T03:27:10Z] <midfavila> >webkit fails to build
[2021-06-26T03:27:11Z] <midfavila> >mfw
[2021-06-26T03:27:18Z] <riteo> bruh
[2021-06-26T03:27:22Z] <acheam> but say you want your web browser on 2 desktopa
[2021-06-26T03:27:26Z] <acheam> tags allow that
[2021-06-26T03:27:35Z] <midfavila> okay but why would I ever want that
[2021-06-26T03:27:40Z] <acheam> midfavila: did you manage to get over the introspection thing?
[2021-06-26T03:27:44Z] <riteo> midfavila re tags: I see why you feel like it's unnecessary
[2021-06-26T03:27:44Z] <acheam> uh
[2021-06-26T03:27:46Z] <acheam> isk
[2021-06-26T03:27:47Z] <midfavila> no, this is onmy desktop
[2021-06-26T03:27:55Z] <midfavila> on my*
[2021-06-26T03:28:00Z] <midfavila> which is a gkiss install
[2021-06-26T03:28:12Z] <acheam> yes but it still needs gtk to be built with introspection
[2021-06-26T03:28:19Z] <acheam> unless gkiss has that by default?
[2021-06-26T03:28:25Z] <midfavila> wouldn't matter either way
[2021-06-26T03:28:27Z] <acheam> libc alone has no effect on that
[2021-06-26T03:28:28Z] <midfavila> webkit doesn't build.
[2021-06-26T03:28:42Z] <acheam> you could use it with webengine if youre a cretin
[2021-06-26T03:28:48Z] <midfavila> i'll stick with uxp
[2021-06-26T03:38:27Z] <midfavila> ngl tho
[2021-06-26T03:38:37Z] <midfavila> kinda irked that their suggestion for setting it up is "install guix"
[2021-06-26T03:39:00Z] <midfavila> nyxt, I mean
[2021-06-26T03:41:09Z] <trunc88> tags are like the best part of dwm
[2021-06-26T03:41:23Z] <trunc88> i think its funny when wms based on dwm dont have that feature
[2021-06-26T03:44:43Z] <noocsharp> acheam: do you daily drive chorizo?
[2021-06-26T03:44:53Z] <acheam> noocsharp: yes
[2021-06-26T03:45:07Z] <noocsharp> did you use ff before?
[2021-06-26T03:45:36Z] <acheam> yes and I still use it when WebKit can't handle certain pages, or I need webrtc
[2021-06-26T03:45:55Z] <acheam> also Google docs
[2021-06-26T03:46:06Z] <noocsharp> wait webkit can't do google docs?
[2021-06-26T03:46:16Z] <acheam> it might be my cookie policy
[2021-06-26T03:46:22Z] <acheam> which is no third pary
[2021-06-26T03:46:25Z] <midfavila> webkit can barely render openwrt's login page
[2021-06-26T03:46:36Z] <acheam> it can definitely do google docs
[2021-06-26T03:46:39Z] <noocsharp> openwrt must have an insane login page
[2021-06-26T03:46:45Z] <midfavila> must.
[2021-06-26T03:46:48Z] <acheam> just not with my setup
[2021-06-26T03:47:21Z] <noocsharp> hmm... i'll see how chorizo works for what i need
[2021-06-26T03:47:32Z] <noocsharp> hopefully i can get away with it
[2021-06-26T03:47:35Z] <acheam> its not for everybody
[2021-06-26T03:47:56Z] <acheam> but all the actual browsing is handled by webkit2gtk, so its sound that way
[2021-06-26T03:49:55Z] <noocsharp> i waste so much time impulsively opening hn and lobste.rs, i'd be better off without a browser altogether
[2021-06-26T03:49:57Z] <noocsharp> alas
[2021-06-26T03:54:52Z] <acheam> lol that's why I'm trying to take more notes on a paper pad
[2021-06-26T03:55:03Z] <acheam> less opening my phone, and then my browser
[2021-06-26T04:03:36Z] <riteo> aaaa I'm not confortable yet sharing the script
[2021-06-26T04:03:52Z] <riteo> I must improove
[2021-06-26T04:04:06Z] <riteo> i'm improooooooving
[2021-06-26T04:20:42Z] <noocsharp> the thing is a fixed my phone habit, but it has progressed into a laptop browser habit
[2021-06-26T04:20:48Z] <noocsharp> i fixed*
[2021-06-26T04:50:34Z] <testuser[m]1> Hi
[2021-06-26T04:50:46Z] <riteo> hi!
[2021-06-26T05:07:55Z] <testuser[m]1> Wait install -t isn't portable ? It's used in a lot of build files
[2021-06-26T05:12:25Z] <riteo> welp, gtg for now, bye!
[2021-06-26T05:12:43Z] <riteo> s/welp/well/
[2021-06-26T05:33:28Z] <illiliti> install isn't portable itself
[2021-06-26T09:33:50Z] <Guest3331> Hi all. What do you think about the new Nvidia 470 driver and Wayland?
[2021-06-26T11:58:07Z] <phoebos[m]> noocsharp: re resuming builds, I recently added that to kiss in a fork
[2021-06-26T11:58:40Z] <phoebos[m]> build fails -> you fix it and install to pkg_dir -> let kiss back in to tar it up etc
[2021-06-26T12:05:20Z] <testuser[m]1> Where
[2021-06-26T12:25:21Z] <phoebos[m]> https://github.com/aabacchus/kiss/commit/afe796d666868bad2b313f8bad742d5dcbcf641a
[2021-06-26T15:45:42Z] <noocsharp> phoebos[m]: neat
[2021-06-26T15:52:22Z] <noocsharp> damn, webkit is way faster than firefox
[2021-06-26T15:52:29Z] <noocsharp> i forgot how fast browsers could be
[2021-06-26T15:54:26Z] <riteo> hiiiii!
[2021-06-26T15:54:49Z] <riteo> now minekiss passes shellcheck
[2021-06-26T15:54:50Z] <riteo> epic
[2021-06-26T15:55:05Z] <riteo> I had to put two ignore directives though
[2021-06-26T15:59:14Z] <noocsharp> nice
[2021-06-26T15:59:55Z] <testuser[m]1> Wdym faster noocsharp
[2021-06-26T16:09:17Z] <noocsharp> it just feels snappier
[2021-06-26T16:09:37Z] <noocsharp> although it might just be librewolf that's slower
[2021-06-26T16:18:18Z] <acheam> probably is librewolf
[2021-06-26T16:18:24Z] <acheam> because it doesnt preload links and stiff
[2021-06-26T16:18:26Z] <acheam> stuff
[2021-06-26T16:26:52Z] <testuser[m]1> Page loading seems much slower for me on webkit browsers compared to other pozzed browsers on my shit net connection
[2021-06-26T16:27:48Z] <noocsharp> librewolf takes a full second to fully render my 2kb homepage
[2021-06-26T16:28:26Z] <testuser[m]1> Wtf
[2021-06-26T16:28:42Z] <riteo> bruh
[2021-06-26T16:28:55Z] <riteo> maybe you compiled it without optimizations?
[2021-06-26T16:31:05Z] <acheam> well its a rust program
[2021-06-26T16:31:32Z] <acheam> so the optimizations should be automatic with rustc iirc
[2021-06-26T16:31:42Z] <acheam> not that it would make that big of a differencr
[2021-06-26T16:32:11Z] <riteo> optimizations usually make a great job AFAIK
[2021-06-26T16:32:34Z] <riteo> I've experienced it first-handedly with godot
[2021-06-26T16:32:34Z] <noocsharp> i mean i took the extra/firefox build file and just added the librewolf specific stuff in the AUR PKGBUILD
[2021-06-26T16:32:53Z] <riteo> mh
[2021-06-26T16:33:00Z] <noocsharp> it should compile with the same opitmization settings as extra/firefox
[2021-06-26T16:39:32Z] <noocsharp> librewolf doesn't do webgl if that would cause it to slow down significantly
[2021-06-26T16:40:23Z] <riteo> well, gtg, cya later!
[2021-06-26T16:41:53Z] <testuser[m]1> webgl would only affect the sites that used that shit tech 
[2021-06-26T16:42:42Z] <testuser[m]1> Oh
[2021-06-26T16:43:25Z] <testuser[m]1> Webgl needs js anyway
[2021-06-26T20:23:26Z] <taaparthur> dilyn for gcc could we remove the "--build=x86_64-pc-linux-musl" flag? It can be auto-detected and don't see any benefit of hard coding it
[2021-06-26T20:35:36Z] <acheam> is there any disadvantage?
[2021-06-26T20:40:50Z] <taaparthur> I don't know of any. Removing it works fine for me
[2021-06-26T22:52:20Z] <claudia> taaparthur: Is there an advantage other as saving a line, when removing the binary specification?
[2021-06-26T23:09:44Z] <acheam> noocsharp: bash needs bison as a dependency
[2021-06-26T23:40:17Z] <noocsharp> thanks, will send patch soon