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2020-05-23T00:08:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Now trying to package elfutils
2020-05-23T00:09:07 #kisslinux <muevoid> I installed argp standalone however I still get an error that the libargp cant be found
2020-05-23T00:09:46 #kisslinux <onodera_> merakor: elfutils has already been packages?
2020-05-23T00:09:50 #kisslinux <onodera_> * muevoid
2020-05-23T00:10:00 #kisslinux <onodera_> oh actually it has not sorry
2020-05-23T00:10:14 #kisslinux <onodera_> I tried to package it actually
2020-05-23T00:10:20 #kisslinux <onodera_> and failed as well
2020-05-23T00:18:34 #kisslinux <muevoid> Pretty sure it has to do with argp-standalone not sure what I am doing wrong with it
2020-05-23T00:20:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> actually just got that working
2020-05-23T00:20:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> now need libfts
2020-05-23T00:23:39 #kisslinux <muevoid> already packaged in kiss-games
2020-05-23T00:23:43 #kisslinux <muevoid> slowly getting closer
2020-05-23T00:28:26 #kisslinux <onodera_> will je be adding elfutils to community?
2020-05-23T00:28:40 #kisslinux <onodera_> i might want to package something that depends on it
2020-05-23T00:29:48 #kisslinux <muevoid> Not sure if it will get accepted into community but I will make a pull request however I will add it to my repo in a bit
2020-05-23T00:29:52 #kisslinux <muevoid> I almost have it compiling
2020-05-23T00:31:46 #kisslinux <muevoid> Just trying to remove gettext dep
2020-05-23T01:36:51 #kisslinux <muevoid> Does anyone know how to get audio working in a flatpak that the application has alsa support?
2020-05-23T01:53:02 #kisslinux <onodera_> muevoid: impossible for now i thinj
2020-05-23T01:53:11 #kisslinux <onodera_> dylan has been working on this
2020-05-23T01:53:30 #kisslinux <onodera_> you could try this:  --device=all
2020-05-23T01:53:43 #kisslinux <onodera_> when running the pack
2020-05-23T01:54:19 #kisslinux <muevoid> Nah didnt work I just get an error Could not open playback device 'default' connection refused
2020-05-23T01:54:57 #kisslinux <onodera_> i think it always wants to make use of pulse sadly
2020-05-23T01:55:11 #kisslinux <onodera_> and I don't really think a fix is possible
2020-05-23T01:55:21 #kisslinux <onodera_> tbh you are better of setting up a chroot
2020-05-23T01:55:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> I thought it was possible to use alsa as long as the application supports alsa?
2020-05-23T01:55:38 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ive seen people on other systems use alsa with the steam flatpak
2020-05-23T01:55:51 #kisslinux <onodera_> i couldnt get it to work with minecraft
2020-05-23T01:55:58 #kisslinux <onodera_> which uses alsa, I think
2020-05-23T01:57:20 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ah
2020-05-23T01:57:31 #kisslinux <muevoid> Im trying to get terraria from gog to work
2020-05-23T01:57:50 #kisslinux <muevoid> I would just use a chroot but my game kept crashing in a chroot
2020-05-23T02:29:23 #kisslinux <muevoid> Ive install pulseaudio however audio in flatpak still wont work
2020-05-23T05:17:17 #kisslinux <ggg> In order to have access to pulseaudio in a flatpak you need to do the folloeing (on the “host”): 1) export environment variable XDG_RUNTIME_DIR setting it to a directory of your choice 2) run pulseaudio as a user daemon (launch with pulseaudio —start)
2020-05-23T05:17:53 #kisslinux <ggg> s/folloeing/following/
2020-05-23T06:48:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> ggg: Yeah. This kinda goes against the whole point of Flatpak though... "Build once, run everywhere" (or however they put it).
2020-05-23T06:49:32 #kisslinux <dylan02> Appimages don't work on musl at all either and Snaps require systemd (snap also has a closed-source and mandatory remote).
2020-05-23T06:51:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> Flatpak: Create one app and distribute it to the entire Linux desktop market.
2020-05-23T06:51:09 #kisslinux <dylan02> Snap: Snaps work across Linux on any distribution or version.
2020-05-23T06:51:30 #kisslinux <dylan02> Appimage: Linux apps that run anywhere
2020-05-23T06:51:34 #kisslinux <dylan02> :(
2020-05-23T06:58:08 #kisslinux <aarng> dylan02: https://github.com/dimkr/loksh
2020-05-23T06:58:26 #kisslinux <aarng> how would I go about building/packaging this in regards to the subproject
2020-05-23T07:10:25 #kisslinux <dylan02> https://termbin.com/a5ry
2020-05-23T07:10:37 #kisslinux <dylan02> aarng:
2020-05-23T07:11:12 #kisslinux <dylan02> The package manager runs under ksh, neat.
2020-05-23T07:11:44 #kisslinux <dylan02> You can drop --mandir and --sysconfdir from the build file fyi.
2020-05-23T07:11:45 #kisslinux <aarng> awesome, thank you :D
2020-05-23T07:11:55 #kisslinux <aarng> yap, will do
2020-05-23T07:12:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> The lolibc source uses the checksum of its latest release
2020-05-23T07:12:18 #kisslinux <dylan02> There's no tags or releases...
2020-05-23T07:12:57 #kisslinux <dylan02> No other distro has the new 6.7 release though ;)
2020-05-23T07:13:13 #kisslinux <aarng> yeah, I was looking forward to be the first, lol
2020-05-23T07:13:53 #kisslinux <dylan02> >  Add a Makefile that runs Meson, for easier transition #15
2020-05-23T07:13:59 #kisslinux <dylan02> I never understood changes like this...
2020-05-23T07:23:41 #kisslinux <mcf> oksh is another portable distribution of openbsd ksh, maintained by one of the openbsd developers. you might have better luck with that
2020-05-23T07:27:39 #kisslinux <aarng> ibara's?
2020-05-23T07:28:10 #kisslinux <aarng> looking at it right now but it has no build system it seems
2020-05-23T07:29:07 #kisslinux <dylan02> It has a build system of some kind: https://github.com/ibara/oksh/blob/master/configure
2020-05-23T07:29:17 #kisslinux <dylan02> This spits out a Makefile
2020-05-23T07:29:35 #kisslinux <aarng> ya, missed the file
2020-05-23T07:29:58 #kisslinux <aarng> I might actually just package that then
2020-05-23T07:30:51 #kisslinux <dylan02> It'd be nice to test the package manager with every shell we can
2020-05-23T07:40:34 #kisslinux <aarng> dylan, if I package oksh, what do we do with loksh?
2020-05-23T07:41:00 #kisslinux <dylan02> Package both if you like
2020-05-23T07:41:03 #kisslinux <dylan02> I don't mind
2020-05-23T07:41:07 #kisslinux <aarng> simply deleting loksh seems kinda drastic
2020-05-23T07:41:17 #kisslinux <aarng> but that's what I'd prefer
2020-05-23T07:41:39 #kisslinux <dylan02> It's up to you
2020-05-23T07:41:55 #kisslinux <dylan02> I'll keep the package around locally if anyone ever wants it
2020-05-23T07:42:11 #kisslinux <aarng> okey, that sounds good
2020-05-23T07:42:38 #kisslinux <dylan02> dilynm: Are you online?
2020-05-23T16:53:08 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan02: what happens with ls -ld parsing when a filename contains -> lol
2020-05-23T17:57:50 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylan02: also, whenever you set the output of pkg_find() to a variable, it's repo_dir, what if instead of having it output the path, you have it set repo_dir to the path it finds, that way you avoid a subshell? and then anywhere you don't set its output to a variable, you just call it beforehand and use $repo_dir where $(pkg_find) is used? the exceptions here are the ones where you pass more than one arg to it, and in those
2020-05-23T17:57:51 #kisslinux <E5ten> cases instead of setting repo_dir, you can output like you do now, so those parts of kiss don't need much changing?
2020-05-23T19:03:55 #kisslinux <thvle> Hello, what file manager, image viewer etc do you use?
2020-05-23T19:26:56 #kisslinux <claudia> thvle: feh and mvi https://github.com/occivink/mpv-image-viewer
2020-05-23T19:28:11 #kisslinux <thvle> and file manager? terminal ?
2020-05-23T19:30:10 #kisslinux <claudia> mostly
2020-05-23T19:30:27 #kisslinux <claudia> ranger through pip and fff are available
2020-05-23T19:31:21 #kisslinux <claudia> I use ranger just when I copy a whole bunch of different files
2020-05-23T20:03:55 #kisslinux <micro_O> o/
2020-05-23T20:05:44 #kisslinux <claudia> o/
2020-05-23T20:05:49 #kisslinux <kiss9> hi all :)
2020-05-23T20:08:44 #kisslinux <micro_O> learning about KISS_CHOICES, and if its related to all the .new files in /etc or not
2020-05-23T20:10:55 #kisslinux <micro_O> and thinking of making a little contrib script for making it easy to deal with .new files
2020-05-23T20:13:14 #kisslinux <micro_O> k, docs make it clear. KISS_CHOICES has nothing to do with /etc files
2020-05-23T20:55:56 #kisslinux <micro_O> soooo...the patreon says there is discord integration...is that actually a thing?
2020-05-23T20:56:09 #kisslinux <micro_O> like i'm connected but it doesn't show any kiss-related discord channel
2020-05-23T21:25:29 #kisslinux <onodera_> micro_O: that sounds like a joke lol
2020-05-23T21:25:36 #kisslinux <onodera_> like the opposite of what kiss is about
2020-05-23T21:28:44 #kisslinux <micro_O> yeah sounds like one but isnt
2020-05-23T21:29:09 #kisslinux <micro_O> honestly easy to jump in/out voice chat is really nice
2020-05-23T21:29:20 #kisslinux <micro_O> I came across this searching for alternatives :) https://gitlab.com/tslocum/harmony
2020-05-23T22:02:47 #kisslinux <claudia> I have just setup eiwd and search a whole lot how to configure/specify my network device until I figured out I dont have to (:
2020-05-23T22:02:56 #kisslinux <claudia> *searched