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2019-11-15T00:08:53 #kisslinux <stee> dylanarap: would 'kiss b firefox' use both cores on my laptop's cpu?
2019-11-15T00:10:14 #kisslinux <stee> >
2019-11-15T00:10:14 #kisslinux <stee> 19:09
2019-11-15T00:10:14 #kisslinux <stee> dylanaraps
2019-11-15T00:10:14 #kisslinux <stee> Firefox 70 uses a lot more rust crates.
2019-11-15T00:10:16 #kisslinux <stee> oops
2019-11-15T00:10:31 #kisslinux <stee> but yeah ff needs rust
2019-11-15T00:49:43 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> qtpie: I just saw your desktop picture, man. That's a pretty weechat setup.
2019-11-15T07:58:01 #kisslinux <qtpie> thanks Shyiskhar
2019-11-15T09:21:03 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> stee: Firefox needs rust to build. It also sets '-j$(nproc) -l$(nproc)' so yes, it will use all of your cores.
2019-11-15T13:13:20 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> The fact that this needs to exist: https://consoledonottrack.com/
2019-11-15T13:20:01 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> Forget the fact that "Do not track" failed as a concept in browsers.
2019-11-15T13:20:10 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> It'll fail here too (before it even starts).
2019-11-15T14:30:31 #kisslinux <dylanaraps> This is a beautiful thread: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
2019-11-15T14:51:44 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> Well. That looked like fun. Man. All he needed to do at the start was say please... Hah.
2019-11-15T15:36:48 #kisslinux <qwer234235235345> has anyone ever gotten elan1200 trackpad working?
2019-11-15T15:36:56 #kisslinux <qwer234235235345> what kernel options do i need to enable?
2019-11-15T15:37:01 #kisslinux <qwer234235235345> been stuck on it for 2 days :(
2019-11-15T15:54:19 #kisslinux <dylanara1> qwer234235235345: I use the same trackpad.
2019-11-15T15:54:27 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Will send you my config.
2019-11-15T15:56:36 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> thx dylanara1
2019-11-15T15:58:11 #kisslinux <dylanara1> https://gist.github.com/dylanaraps/129128c196555897e3702e2dd29d6049
2019-11-15T15:58:22 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Look for ELAN and I2C.
2019-11-15T15:58:31 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Also SYNAPTICS
2019-11-15T15:58:40 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> cheers
2019-11-15T15:58:55 #kisslinux <dylanara1> You may also need the RMI4 stuff.
2019-11-15T15:59:24 #kisslinux <dylanara1> If it's a Lenovo device, CONFIG_HID_LENOVO too
2019-11-15T15:59:33 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> ok thx
2019-11-15T15:59:37 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> its an asus tho
2019-11-15T15:59:42 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> i've enabled hid_asus
2019-11-15T15:59:45 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Ok
2019-11-15T16:00:02 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> i think what im missing are the synaptics and rmi4 stuff
2019-11-15T16:00:16 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It's a trial and error process. Once you get it 100% working you shouldn't need to touch it ever again. :P
2019-11-15T16:00:17 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> i pretty much enabled everything with elan in it lol
2019-11-15T16:00:27 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I did the same to get mine working.
2019-11-15T16:00:30 #kisslinux <dylanara1> lol
2019-11-15T16:00:32 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> lol
2019-11-15T16:00:42 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Went back afterwards and trimmed it back.
2019-11-15T16:02:03 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> yeah ok tysm i'll try it out tonight (in my timezone)
2019-11-15T16:02:08 #kisslinux <qwer874032974923> been trying all day lol
2019-11-15T16:26:15 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> building your own kernel is fun, it took me like 2 weeks to get things working as intended. Still not sure it's all right.
2019-11-15T16:31:52 #kisslinux <stee> I started with the config from a distro and slimmed it down... didn't take too long.
2019-11-15T16:33:22 #kisslinux <stee> but it's prob not as slim as it could be
2019-11-15T16:33:30 #kisslinux <stee> I'll keep working at it
2019-11-15T16:36:46 #kisslinux <Shyiskhar> I went with just downloading the default and then built it up slowly. I dual booted the computer so I could install kiss from inside arch... Made it at least a little easier to hunt down the needed flags.
2019-11-15T16:42:04 #kisslinux <stee> that's a good idea
2019-11-15T18:21:11 #kisslinux <qtpie> compiled transmission today
2019-11-15T18:21:25 #kisslinux <qtpie> now I have everything i need
2019-11-15T18:21:34 #kisslinux <qtpie> https://0x0.st/z6Nj.png
2019-11-15T18:21:39 #kisslinux <qtpie> tmux is nice
2019-11-15T18:22:29 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Nice :D
2019-11-15T18:23:01 #kisslinux <qtpie> torque is great btw
2019-11-15T18:23:09 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It's probably a little buggy.
2019-11-15T18:23:18 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Was my first or second go at a shell TUI.
2019-11-15T18:23:29 #kisslinux <dylanara1> fff is where I really mastered it. :P
2019-11-15T18:23:39 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I use aria2c for torrents now.
2019-11-15T18:23:52 #kisslinux <qtpie> i see
2019-11-15T18:23:53 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Usage is basically like 'wget'.
2019-11-15T18:24:11 #kisslinux <qtpie> can it download torrents selectively?
2019-11-15T18:24:19 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Selective files?
2019-11-15T18:24:22 #kisslinux <qtpie> yes
2019-11-15T18:24:34 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Sorta. '--select-file=NUM'.
2019-11-15T18:24:49 #kisslinux <dylanara1> You can list files to figure out which number each file is.
2019-11-15T18:24:58 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Let me see if you can give it a list of files to download.
2019-11-15T18:25:41 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Yup, ranges work as does , as a separator.
2019-11-15T18:25:53 #kisslinux <dylanara1> --select-file 1-5,7,9-24
2019-11-15T18:26:02 #kisslinux <qtpie> nice
2019-11-15T18:26:15 #kisslinux <dylanara1> --show-files lists the files.
2019-11-15T18:26:24 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I like it personally.
2019-11-15T18:27:00 #kisslinux <qtpie> I'll try it sometime later. gotta work on my endterm project for now
2019-11-15T18:27:40 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Nice
2019-11-15T18:43:37 #kisslinux <stee> everyone has a girl on their wall paper...
2019-11-15T19:14:53 #kisslinux <dylanara1> https://u.teknik.io/OqJiv.jpg
2019-11-15T19:14:58 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Working on a favicon.
2019-11-15T19:15:00 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Thoughts?
2019-11-15T19:18:49 #kisslinux <stee> ha, not bad though I'm not sure why the bottom lips are orange...
2019-11-15T19:19:26 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Remember, you'll be seeing this at 1:1 pixel-wise.
2019-11-15T19:20:36 #kisslinux <dylanara1> When doing pixel art you'll be mixing colors which don't always match. Especially when you work with a limited palette. :P
2019-11-15T19:21:42 #kisslinux <dylanara1> As an example: https://u.teknik.io/sIBqh.jpg
2019-11-15T19:21:52 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Something I made years and years ago now.
2019-11-15T19:22:45 #kisslinux <stee> ahh i c
2019-11-15T20:53:14 #kisslinux <qtpie> dylanara1, why do you have e10s disabled in firefox?
2019-11-15T20:59:14 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I find Firefox to run faster without it enabled (on my machine).
2019-11-15T20:59:24 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It also uses less memory (but that's a given).
2019-11-15T21:00:02 #kisslinux <dylanara1> This doesn't disable the use of the sandbox or threads fyi. :)
2019-11-15T21:00:35 #kisslinux <dylanara1> stee: https://getkiss.org/
2019-11-15T21:00:42 #kisslinux <dylanara1> The website now has a favicon. :P
2019-11-15T21:01:06 #kisslinux <dylanara1> > <link href="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhEAAQAPH/AAAAAP8AAP8AN////yH5BAUAAAQALAAAAAAQABAAAAM2SLrc/jA+QBUFM2iqA2bAMHSktwCCWJIYEIyvKLOuJt+wV69ry5cfwu7WCVp2RSPoUpE4n4sEADs=" rel=icon>
2019-11-15T21:01:13 #kisslinux <dylanara1> That's the entirety of it!
2019-11-15T21:36:12 #kisslinux <stee> dylanarap: looks good
2019-11-15T21:39:11 #kisslinux <E5ten> dylanaraps: I love how the Intel guy commented like immediately on the xf86-video-intel thing and why it wasn't working and has proceeded to do nothing about it for like a week
2019-11-15T21:56:04 #kisslinux <dylanara1> lol
2019-11-15T21:56:07 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Link?
2019-11-15T21:56:12 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I haven't seen his comment
2019-11-15T22:14:49 #kisslinux <E5ten> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112236
2019-11-15T22:18:04 #kisslinux <dylanara1> > Just the usual clang not generating compile-time constants for offsetof().
2019-11-15T22:18:07 #kisslinux <dylanara1> So casual
2019-11-15T22:18:16 #kisslinux <dylanara1> "Oh yeah, it's just clang again"
2019-11-15T22:20:27 #kisslinux <E5ten> Like to me that sounds like the kind of thing you could probably fix on this side by doing something more explicitly to force clang to work?
2019-11-15T22:21:59 #kisslinux <E5ten> And he says usual but offsetof is only mentioned in that bug and no others
2019-11-15T22:25:23 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Same bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434928
2019-11-15T22:25:24 #kisslinux <dylanara1> ?
2019-11-15T22:25:31 #kisslinux <dylanara1> > Clang is not supported by upstream at this time.
2019-11-15T22:25:58 #kisslinux <E5ten> Oh that's super cool
2019-11-15T22:26:01 #kisslinux <E5ten> Love that
2019-11-15T22:26:10 #kisslinux <dylanara1> FreeBSD build it with Clang. They may have a patch.
2019-11-15T22:26:19 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Possibly also OpenBSD.
2019-11-15T22:27:31 #kisslinux <E5ten> Looks like freebsd just disables sna
2019-11-15T22:27:44 #kisslinux <E5ten> Which means they use the older worse accel method cuz it works with clang
2019-11-15T22:29:04 #kisslinux <E5ten> I think I'm gonna just ask him where in xf86-video-intel this actually comes up to see if I can fuck around until I find a solution
2019-11-15T22:29:28 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It's probably a simple 5 minute fix on his end.
2019-11-15T22:29:41 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Seeing as he knows exactly what's wrong and the ins and outs of the code.
2019-11-15T22:30:16 #kisslinux <E5ten> That's what bugs me so much
2019-11-15T22:33:25 #kisslinux <E5ten> I hate needing dbus for iwd so much :(
2019-11-15T22:34:21 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Same. I've tried hacking on the code and dbus is used in pretty much every file.
2019-11-15T22:34:25 #kisslinux <dylanara1> :(
2019-11-15T22:35:23 #kisslinux <dylanara1> dbus isn't even listed as a dependency: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/network/wireless/iwd.git/tree/README#n10
2019-11-15T22:36:52 #kisslinux <E5ten> It's cuz it doesn't link libdbus it just needs a dbus session running, not saying that's justification just why I assume they'd not list it
2019-11-15T22:37:25 #kisslinux <dylanara1> >  The core goal of the project is to optimize resource utilization by not depending on any external libraries and instead utilizing features provided by the Linux Kernel to the maximum extent possible.
2019-11-15T22:40:44 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I added a great quote to the testimonials page from a comment on reddit about the KISS website.
2019-11-15T22:40:46 #kisslinux <dylanara1> >     Ooh, this is one of those artisan, hand-crafted websites! I’ll have to post this to my Instagram. I once met an old web developer in the south of France who would wash the bytes by hand before uploading them to his server. Said it was a family tradition passed down for generations.
2019-11-15T22:43:46 #kisslinux <E5ten> That's hilarious
2019-11-15T22:44:07 #kisslinux <dylanara1> He's being downvoted though. :(
2019-11-15T22:44:29 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It's beautifully written.
2019-11-15T22:51:38 #kisslinux <konimex> it has snarky and sarcastic undertones in a way so understandable it would be downvoted
2019-11-15T22:57:24 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It's getting upvotes now :D
2019-11-15T23:00:04 #kisslinux <konimex> surprised there's no "but why encourage fragmentation?” commentd
2019-11-15T23:00:10 #kisslinux <konimex> s/commentd/comments
2019-11-15T23:00:48 #kisslinux <dylanara1> I'm going to write a blog post about that actually.
2019-11-15T23:01:08 #kisslinux <dylanara1> ie: fragmentation == choice
2019-11-15T23:01:18 #kisslinux <dylanara1> It ought to be a fun comment thread.
2019-11-15T23:01:32 #kisslinux <konimex> you'll have to include the "Linux is not about choice" mail
2019-11-15T23:01:40 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Of course :)
2019-11-15T23:04:38 #kisslinux <dylanara1> For anyone wanting to read the email: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.html
2019-11-15T23:06:48 #kisslinux <dylanara1> This is a good watch too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTdUmlGxVo0#t=11m
2019-11-15T23:07:08 #kisslinux <dylanara1> Poettering starts interupting the guy at around 12 minutes.
2019-11-15T23:07:17 #kisslinux <dylanara1> interrupting*
2019-11-15T23:45:14 #kisslinux <stee> check it out: in /etc/fstab I put in a line to mount the SD card, which is /dev/sdb1. On boot I get dropped into an emergency shell saying that it can't find /dev/sdb2