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charliebrownau charliebrownau at protonmail.com
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I recommend using Mumble (opensource gaming VOIP) +XMPP (opensource messaging)+ Jitsi (opensource video meeting)for online meetings , during the World Convid Plandemic of 2020-2024
Avoid wearing the Goverment Mask Muzzle or Big Phama Jab
Not everyone is in USA or the same state of USA/X Nation
Profanity is a simple XMMP client - https://profanity-im.github.io/
Also I recommend avoiding Freednode + Libre chat IRC serveryou dont get free speech on it, its the same "woke" censorship
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (nervuri)
2. [users] Article: links and anchors (Chris McGee)
3. Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages (nothien at uber.space)
4. Gemini meetup? (alex wennerberg)
5. Re: Gemini meetup? (panda-roux)
6. Re: Gemini meetup? (Rohan Kumar)
7. Bay Area Gemini Meetup [Was: Gemini meetup?] (Emma Humphries)
8. Re: Gemini meetup? (Jonathan McHugh)
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 16:16:25 +0000
From: nervuri nervuri at disroot.org
To: nothien at uber.space
Cc: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini at nassur.net, gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages
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On Fri, 2021-05-21, nothien at uber.space wrote:
If servers have not yet been fixed to use close_notify, then there's no
hope that they would implement any new companion specs / technologies
for providing integrity.
My suggestions don't entail changes in server software.
If a user of such a server wants integrity, then they should request it
of the maintainer of the server code, or switch to a different server;
there are many out there with the same features.
The user of a pubnix or a flounder-style hosting service would likely
not be in a position to determine what server is used. But they would
be able to create well-known files or append hash fragments to a few
links. The idea of hash fragments for third-party links would be
especially interesting to explore, I think.
Integrity on the server-side is out of the scope of Gemini
As are many features of current Gemini clients.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 12:50:14 -0400
From: Chris McGee newton688 at gmail.com
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: [users] Article: links and anchors
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Hi All,
I've written an article on hyperlinking in gemini.
gemini://lonelysilo.ca/article/links-and-anchors.gmi
Cheers,
Chris
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:48:44 +0100
From: nothien at uber.space
To: nervuri nervuri at disroot.org
Cc: "ew.gemini" ew.gemini at nassur.net, gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: [tech] Integrity checks for Gemini pages
Message-ID: 3KSWVXZK44DRK.32JOUY4QKZKXY at nothien.uber.space
nervurinervuri at disroot.org wrote:
On Fri, 2021-05-21, nothien at uber.space wrote:
If servers have not yet been fixed to use close_notify, then there's
no hope that they would implement any new companion specs /
technologies for providing integrity.
My suggestions don't entail changes in server software.
But your suggestions are patch-up solutions over issues with server
software. Instead of adding more complexity into the situation, push
for better (more correct) server software.
If a user of such a server wants integrity, then they should request
it of the maintainer of the server code, or switch to a different
server; there are many out there with the same features.
The user of a pubnix or a flounder-style hosting service would likely
not be in a position to determine what server is used. But they would
be able to create well-known files or append hash fragments to a few
links.
But they can (and should!) request their providers to update their
software. Users should never have to pay for the faults of their server
providers anyways.
The idea of hash fragments for third-party links would be especially
interesting to explore, I think.
They would only be feasible for static files, such as tarballs etc. that
never change, as otherwise any changes (e.g. fixing typos) would break
hash fragments from third-party sites to the current one. The issue
thus becomes that it may be misused (i.e. used in the wrong contexts);
there is no way to stop this from happening, and it would only add more
pain to the situation. Better to rely on explicit hash files in these
situations, as is already the convention.
Integrity on the server-side is out of the scope of Gemini
As are many features of current Gemini clients.
Such as? I'm considering specifically the communication of data over
the network via the Gemini protocol. Gemini clients obviously have more
things to do.
~aravk | ~nothien
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:37:53 -0700
From: "alex wennerberg" alex at alexwennerberg.com
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Gemini meetup?
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Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you
all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder
if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure
if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to
float the idea.
Alex
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 22 May 2021 22:50:45 -0700
From: panda-roux contact at panda-roux.dev
To: alex wennerberg alex at alexwennerberg.com
Cc: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: Gemini meetup?
Message-ID: 20210523055045.elenme5zcxa4uu23 at GLOIN
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I am close enough to the bay to be able to make it, so I would be down.
If we can get enough folks willing perhaps we could find a place that's
somewhat central to where enough of us are at.
panda-roux
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:37:53PM -0700, alex wennerberg wrote:
Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you
all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder
if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure
if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to
float the idea.
Alex
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 00:08:32 -0700
From: Rohan Kumar seirdy at seirdy.one
To: panda-roux contact at panda-roux.dev
Cc: alex wennerberg alex at alexwennerberg.com,
gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: Gemini meetup?
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I'm in the South Bay Area, and would be down for a meetup. It's probably
best to wait another month or two while vaccinations roll out.
I'm cool with meeting over something like Mumble until then, though.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 00:51:26 -0700
From: "Emma Humphries" ech at emmah.net
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Bay Area Gemini Meetup [Was: Gemini meetup?]
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I'm in Oakland and anything I can reach by bicycle, bus, or BART would be great.
On Sun, May 23, 2021, at 00:08, Rohan Kumar wrote:
I'm in the South Bay Area, and would be down for a meetup. It's probably
best to wait another month or two while vaccinations roll out.
I'm cool with meeting over something like Mumble until then, though.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 11:22:47 +0200
From: Jonathan McHugh indieterminacy at libre.brussels
To: gemini at lists.orbitalfox.eu
Subject: Re: Gemini meetup?
Message-ID: 87mtslby8o.fsf at libre.brussels
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Im happy to propose Brussels, Belgium for anybody in Western Europe.
Jonathan
alex wennerberg alex at alexwennerberg.com writes:
Hey all, now that the world is sort of opening up again, how would you
all feel about a Gemini meetup? I am located in the Bay Area, I wonder
if there's enough folks here to put together a small group. I'm not sure
if I have the resources to organize such a thing, but just wanted to
float the idea.
Alex
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indieterminacy at libre.brussels
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