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Re: "is there some tls implementation for small devicdes? there..."

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Probably not as small as you'd like. My capsule was slow when I hosted it on ESP32, and even slower on a Pi Pico W. It works, but the handshake is very slow with EC. (Both with mbedtls, which is still limited to TLS 1.2.)

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2023-08-04 · 6 months ago

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😎 Smokey · 2023-08-04 at 15:36:

@dimkr would the spartan protocol be a better fit for those kinds of devices since it does not do TLS?

😈 dimkr · 2023-08-05 at 05:46:

@Smokey In some ways, Spartan is a good alternative for small devices with static content (so no need for "authenticated users"), as long as the users use a client that supports Spartan and not just Gemini

📻 solderpunk · 2023-08-05 at 09:30:

@smokey @dimkr For devices where TLS is really not possible, there's also the option of running something like Cosmarmot on a Pi on the same network, it translates Gemini stuff to Gopher. See https://git.carcosa.net/jmcbray/cosmarmot/

😈 dimkr · 2023-08-05 at 13:20:

@solderpunk (Seeing myself mentioned in your reply made me blush) Proxying is definitely an option, but I prefer not to add a "computer" that acts as a "TLS accelerator" for the Pico W running my Gemini capsule, and Gopher is not really an alternative (because of the fixed width and other limitations). I want to like Spartan but I'd prefer an "exactly Gemini minus the TLS" protocol supported by all conformant Gemini clients, for the sake of code reuse.

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is there some tls implementation for small devicdes? there is a tcp stack in kon-tiki, and maybe other implementations. is it possible to use tls on some 8bit device with 64kb of memory? i am thinking of potential implementations on avr, 6502. i guess m68k may even run real openssl library?

💬 norayr · 11 comments · 2023-08-01 · 6 months ago · #programming