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Biden Trump
Racist ✓ ✓
Treasonous deals ✓ ✓
Liar ✓ ✓
Too Old ✓ ✓
Senile ✓ ✓
Insane
Children ✓ ✓
Foreign Funds
for Influence ✓ ✓
Family Businesses 10s 100s
Receiving Bribes
Probability of
Starting WW3 75% 10%
to Get Re-elected
Probability of
Starting Civil War 0% 75%
to Get Re-elected
This is pretty pathetic.
I hate it when Trump is right, and he is right about Biden trying to start a war to get re-elected. Biden, or whoever the puppet master behind him is, has been working hard to stir up trouble. I really hope it does not go full out.
Trump is a total criminal scumbag, but to be fair, Biden has not changed anything for the better. I think Trump is less likely to blow us all up -- he is in it to pardon himself and walk away with money and influence.
I am afraid this election is one we all lose.
Jan 30 · 7 days ago · 👍 norayr
Kennedy is also running in this election by the way, and even though he sucks in his own ways he might check off a couple less of those boxes? Not that he has a chance of winning necessarily 🤷
🐻 moddedBear · Jan 30 at 04:30:
Well said. Not that anyone cares but so far I fully intend to vote third party this go around. I don't know who for yet but we'd likely be better off with almost anyone else. I don't expect it to make much of a difference, but maybe just enough people do the same to cause an annoyance.
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 04:40:
Both parties are paralyzed, terrified that naming someone else will give away the election. However, in a recent democratic primary, a rando unknown got 20%, mostly to make the point that someone well funded could totally take this election.
🚀 nonausami · Jan 30 at 07:10:
The really terrifying is that Trump is pushing the “fake-facts” as a serious agenda which has far greater consequences then just politics.
(I can understand why it is convenient to push the fake news narrative)
However facts are by definition as they are and they are usually based on available information which may or may not be complete the moment when presented.
Dismissing of facts as something subjective instead of pinning subjectiveness and mutability to the conclusion shifts the burden of negating your claim by default to someone else instead of you having to present a deduction./
I read some article that said Kennedy is trying to keep any party from hitting a majority so the selection goes to (the house?), 1 vote per state, where trump is likely to win.
I mostly agree, but it feels overblown to say, "Biden has not changed anything for the better." I suppose it depends on what you're looking at.
There's definitely a Wag-the-Dog incentive here to start a war, but is there any evidence that Biden is doing so? So far he mostly seems to be trying to control things.
I think Biden is concerned more about legacy than power, which makes me trust him more.
🖥️ zetamacs · Jan 30 at 16:01:
Some part of me feels ashamed that I haven't voted for a president in the last two elections.
But the part that prevails is the one where the conscience speaks loud and clear. I couldn't endorse either party's candidate. I believe, once again, that they're both bad for the country in their own ways and choosing "the lesser evil" is not choosing anything good.
IF one pressed me hard enough on this, I'd say Trump has no business leading anyone. He's a wicked, tyrannical, delusional man who needs to be stopped, not re-elected. But of course, that doesn't automatically make his competition the right choice.
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 16:59:
@akkatik: I stand by my opinion that Biden has not improved anything - in fact things are now much, much worse. The pandemic has been blown up from dealing a disease with twice the mortality of the modern flu to a bizzare corporate giveaway. Internally, the economy is wrecked from a quadrupling of the money supply -- inflation, zombie corporations funded for no reason. Government intervention is everywhere, with no purpose. Standard of living is greatly reduced, and minorities are worse off than ever. Politicians don't even pretend to be not corrupt. The country is deeply involved in major military interventions, first indirect, and now direct. That is far from a complete list...
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 17:03:
Has there ever been someone I could truly vote for? I don't think so, in my lifetime. I was too young for Carter... I think he was genuinely a good person. After that it's been a shitshow of psychopaths.
Also, you missed a row. Abuses women: Trump ✓
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 17:06:
@akkartik: Did you miss Biden sniffing women's hair, and handling someone's wife on camera early on in the term? But yeah, Trump is indeed a rapist; a bigger checkmark applies to him.
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 17:19:
I think that high officials are scared of fully prosecuting Trump and winding up with half the population picking up pitchforks. Not to mention that Trump is likely to have pictures of them from Epstein's island. Any normal person would be rotting in prison. The level of corruption would make Soviet Union politicians envious.
🖥️ zetamacs · Jan 30 at 17:31:
@stack You be truthin'.
It's not a witch hunt to go after him for the things he's done wrong - the problem is, it's no secret that others have also done terrible things, nor do those bad things lose politicians their supporters.
This puts on public display how there's a different set of rules for Trump and others like him, on all sides. The law doesn't apply equally (sometimes at all), bad publicity is good, and even those who admit you're a terrible person can be convinced they *need* you, if you're rich and powerful enough.
And this is what we're supposed to call "freedom"? To call "great"? This is a nightmare!
👤 nikhotmsk · Jan 30 at 17:46:
Give me the sources. All of them. You just say something serious about each of candidates, all of this needs to be linked to the source where you read about it. Otherwice I can not prove you wrong.
🚀 stack [OP] · Jan 30 at 17:59:
@nikhotmsk: If you care, google it yourself. You are a random person on the internet. Do you think I care about you proving me wrong -- or right?
Confused as to why comments here are hidden but the comment link is still up. Did they get so bad that everything had to be deleted? @skyjake
🚀 skyjake [mod...] · Feb 02 at 05:24:
@satch Aha, seems we have a bug. When a post is moved, its comments stay behind in the original subspace! I'll fix it...
EDIT: Should be fixed now. Sorry about the confusion!
EDIT 2: I found ~20 comments similarly affected by posts being moved, and fixed the entries in the database. Should be all good now.