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[off topic] dead internet theory

Alice lia at loveisanalogue.info

Wed Sep 8 07:58:49 BST 2021

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Hello,

In my experience the shift between a user led internet and a tech company led internet happened in the early tennies, linked to the rise of smart phones and social media.

The small web, done by people who are not trying to monetize or self-promote still exists, it's just harder to find because it does not interest search engine and social media algorithms.

The blame doesn't fall entirely on tech companies: the fact that, from early on, people have been unwilling to pay for internet services has played a big role in shaping the internet as we know it now.

:-)A.

On 7 September 2021 23:41:31 BST, marc <marcx2 at welz.org.za> wrote:

Hi
I came across this, err, rather creative line of
reasoning at
https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/dead-internet-theory-most-of-the-internet-is-fake.3011/
via
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2021/08/dead-internet-theory-wrong-but-feels-true/619937/
Maybe start with the second link, especially if you are easily
weirded out.
I suppose not everybody has an appetite for this topic,
given that wild fringe theories are by definition by and
for outsiders...
But I don't think it is necessary to believe it - it
remains a useful story regardless - something like a
fable (you know, like the one involving the
fox, the raven and the grapes - the one that gives
us the concept "sour grapes").
Here the useful observation is that the internet (or
at least the shallow web) has changed, and not
only in obvious technological ways, but also in
the way people interact with it - that people
are now holding back from posting longer, thoughtful
ideas, and that what is put on line is more "staged",
"click-baity" and "recycled". Famously the top N
subreddits are all managed by the same pool of moderators...
So it would be neat to hear from people here
if you also think the web has (almost) emptied of
real conversations with real people and what
explanations you might have for it.
I can come up with some:
- That enthusiasm just wanes as the internet is no
longer something new and people just get older...
- That saying something controversial (nevermind
offensive) online now has real-life consequences
and sometimes completely disproportionate ones
- That the effort to monetise or content-pad
a site means that the same bland tips, jokes
or memes are recycled
- That SEO has elbowed the small, personal site out of
the way, and the spammers have poison the its comments
section.
- That the internet has turned ever more into TV, and
people have turned into passive consumers, the kind
that the content industry wants
- That the real humans have just disappeared
(I want to say raptured :-) into the nooks and crannies
of the internet, including mailing lists and... gemini
capsules ?
- And, just maybe, there is a better internet that
we don't know about, because it has a rule that you
don't talk about it
regards
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