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Updated recommendations regarding TOFU & TLS

Ben benulo at systemli.org

Thu Mar 4 21:51:17 GMT 2021

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I usually refrain from getting involved in ML discussions. The reason is that I often don't have anything useful or good enough to contribute, and also I am aware the ML is very high-traffic and the last thing we need is more discussion.

I have been on this mailing list for a long time, before it was ever this crowded or active. I remember getting just one message from in the span of a month, maybe longer.

I'm not a big fan of moderation or exclusion. The first time I saw a message on the mailing list that I genuinely felt was bad and shouldn't have been sent (because it was too rude/direspectful or obnoxious), it was from Petite Abeille. I did not say anything, but it felt out of character for this list and this community. But hey, we are patient and tolerant, we can learn to get along, right?

Petite Abeille, if you are genuinely interested in Gemini and wants to be part of the community, I would not like to see you banned. However, I would implore you to reconsider how you interact on the ML. I can't help but feel you played some part in people being driven out of the ML, though of course not the only part.

As an additional matter to consider, in case some members of the mailing list are not aware (although most probably are), Petite Abeille is not a person's name, but it means "little bee" in French. I got the impression this name was chosen deliberately for trolling, to be anonymous and convey the message that this is a disruptive creature buzzing around and poking us with its stinger.

Also, some people might not be aware, but this mailing list was not supposed to allow Gmail addresses, but a special exception was made for people interested in Gemini to be allowed to use it. It was thought this is for the benefit of the community. However, perhaps we've also unwittingly opened up the list to abuse by throw-away e-mail accounts?

Just some things to consider.

Ben

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