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Arch Linux after 6 months

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mcgillij

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Linux

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2021-05-11 19:49

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Arch, Linux, #100DaysToOffload

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arch-after-6-months

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Recap / Review after 6 months of usage of Arch Linux

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Contents

What am I looking for?

So Arch?

While, I like to keep an eye on whats happening in other distributions Iā€™m not one to distro-hop much these days, since at the end of the day I still end up having to get some work done.

However over the Christmas holidays I snagged a new workstation, and it came time to install an OS on it. I toyed around a bit with a few distributions, just to make sure I wasnā€™t **missing** out on anything of particular note.

There is some interesting work going on in a few of the modern distroā€™s which I was interested in seeing.

NixOS

: has a very interesting way to package everything.

Gentoo

: **portage** has always interested me, but I donā€™t have unlimited time.

Debian

: I know this works, and is great.

Arch

: **pacman** is it all itā€™s cracked up to be?

Fedora

: still havenā€™t run any RedHat variant at home since version 5 maybe itā€™s good now?

Iā€™ve largely stuck to Debian as my primary home workstation driver for well over 20 years. But I figured with a new machine, time for a something a bit different possibly?

Each of the above distroā€™s were considered and to a certain extent toyed with on my new workstation with varying degreeā€™s of success.

NixOS

A very interesting packaging structure, with everything being focusing on reproducibility and using a declarative language for itā€™s configuration. This was almost what I ended up going with, and maybe in a couple years it will be. It just isnā€™t there for me right now as most of my development work is done in

Python

. And the Python packaging situation on NixOS is a minor shit show to say the least. Things are getting better now with the advent of

Poetry

however.

Gentoo

Gentoo, is super fun, and I wish I was 20 years younger to be able to run this full time. I love absolutely everything about gentoo, from being able to specify at a package level compilation parameters for everything. Even being able to select filtering on which packages I can install based on the **licenses** in the event that I was super anal about which license the packages are released with. I enjoy that it puts the choice clearly back in the users hands. However the copious amount of compiling required to get even the base system up and running is a bit of a deal breaker for me, since I like to keep my packages updated quite frequently.

Debian

My home since forever. But slow on the uptake for bleeding-edge packages and Kernels. Still my current choice of server OS.

Fedora

Just no, not for me. I tried the new version (33 at the time, I know 34ā€™s out now with the fancy new Gnome40(0 fucks given)). Fedoraā€™s probably great for some people. I had to spend so much time just removing the pre-configured shit that I didnā€™t need that it wasnā€™t worth it for me.

However you want a really low maintenance distribution that feels like your at ā€œworkā€. By all means giver!

Arch

Finally Arch, has been getting better and better over the years. And I remember when it was a trainwreck. However those days are long gone it seems.

With rolling updates (a mandatory feature these days for me at least), support for bleeding-edge Linux kernels.

Possibly the single most interesting package manager of the bunch **pacman**.

Lets not forget the best part the documentation:

Arch Wiki

. Itā€™s a rare treat these days for documentation to actually be the exciting part but it actually is.

The wiki is regularly updated and has really become somewhat of a defacto standard for modern Linux documentation regardless of which distribution that your using.

What makes a distro?

For me a distribution boils down to how it manages its packages and views on user choice.

Fedoraā€™s package manager is fine, but the enforced choice of software that come *pre-packaged* with itā€™s OS is too much for me to deal with. However a great many people may actually find that to be itā€™s greatest feature.

Gentoo offers an almost ridiculous amount of choice, but being a source distribution requires more time in compiling that I have time for even with a great new processor at my disposal.

NixOS will be great soon and I canā€™t wait to try it out for longer. But it currently canā€™t meet my requirements without jumping through many hoops to support the language that I love writing my applications in.

Arch strikes an almost perfect balance of great package management and hands-off approach to choice. As an Arch user, you can choose what you want to be running at every step of the way much like Gentoo, however you arenā€™t **required** to compile all of the packages yourself (although you surely can if you really are into that).

With the addition of

AUR

itā€™s hard to beat the available software in any distribution (although Nixā€™s packages are getting up there!)

Arch specifics

Since much of what you make of Arch is up to you. Everyoneā€™s experience will likely be different. Having to learn a new package manager is always kinda lame at the end of the day.

Iā€™ve grown to appreciate **pacman**, even though I think it should probably be split into several independent commands.

If I had to describe Arch to someone using only 1 word, it would be **pacman**. It just does everything. I donā€™t really think Iā€™ve used anything else thatā€™s Arch specific (with the exception of a handful of commands to build Arch packages, that could then be installed and managed with *pacman*).

Some of the previous material that Iā€™ve written on Arch/pacman since switching:

35 mins to Arch

Building AURā€™s with a chroot

pacman coming from apt / dpkg

Installing Arch Linux blind after 20 years of Debian

Enough about that, hereā€™s a couple more **pacman** nuggets.

pacman wtf changed

If you ever wonderedā€¦ Which config files have I modified on this system since Iā€™ve installed it.

I call this one ā€˜wtf changedā€™

pacman -Qii | grep ^MODIFIED | cut -f2

/etc/fstab
/etc/group
/etc/hosts
/etc/issue
/etc/motd
/etc/passwd
/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/shells
/etc/locale.gen
/etc/default/grub
/etc/libvirt/qemu.conf
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
/etc/pam.d/lightdm
/etc/mkinitcpio.conf
/etc/nut/ups.conf
/etc/ssh/sshd_config
/etc/pacman.conf
/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
/etc/security/limits.conf
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

I donā€™t think I would have been able to-do this as easily on Debian with any combination of *dpkg* and *apt*.

Is that from Arch or AUR?

Hereā€™s a simple one that I use quite often to remember if I have a package installed from Arch directly or from the AUR.

pacman -Qm

amdfan 0.1.9-1
awesome-terminal-fonts-patched 1.0.0-2
colortail-git 20160223.3b76525e-1
cpufetch-git v0.94.r28.g7916e8c-1
ebtables 2.0.10_4-8
electron6 6.1.12-6
inxi 3.2.01.1-1
lagrange 1.3.0-1
libglade 2.6.4-7
progress-quest-bin 6.2-1
protontricks 1.4.4-1
py3status-amdfan 0.1.0-1
py3status-cpu-governor 0.1.2-1
py3status-github-notifications 0.1.0-1
py3status-http-monitor 0.1.2-1
py3status-ups-battery-status 0.1.2-1
pygtk 2.24.0-12
python-vdf 3.3-2
python2-gobject2 2.28.7-6
rpcs3 0.0.14-2
ruby-clocale 0.0.4-1
ruby-colorls 1.4.4-1
ruby-filesize 0.2.0-1
ruby-unicode-display_width 1.7.0-1
slack-desktop 4.12.0-1
syncplay 1.6.7-1
tty-clock 2.3-1
ucollage 0.1.0-2
whalebird 4.3.1-1

The above will show you all the packages that you have installed from AUR sources. And if you want to see your regular packages youā€™ve install manually can use "pacman -Qe".

Finding dependencies

I may have covered this in a previous entry, although I use this quite often to find the dependencies of certain packages. Itā€™s quite a simple one, but useful none-the-less.

pacman -Qi amdfan

Name            : amdfan
Version         : 0.1.9-1
Description     : Python daemon for controlling the fans on amdgpu cards
Architecture    : any
URL             : https://github.com/mcgillij/amdfan
Licenses        : GPL2
Groups          : None
Provides        : None
Depends On      : python  python-yaml  python-numpy  python-rich  python-click
Optional Deps   : None
Required By     : py3status-amdfan
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 33.04 KiB
Packager        : Unknown Packager
Build Date      : Sat 10 Apr 2021 09:21:25 PM ADT
Install Date    : Thu 06 May 2021 10:57:51 PM ADT
Install Reason  : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : None

Updating the mirrors

Sometimes you just want to update the mirrors, this can be accomplished with "pacman -Syy", usually accompanied by a system update "pacman -Syu".

Again itā€™s weird that one command has so much functionality, and flags and parameters however when you actually start using it, itā€™s quite a blessing since there isnā€™t this much functionality in just about any other tool out there.

Back to the review

Enough about pacman and how awesome of a tool it is. We were speaking of Arch and reviewing a half year of usage with it. Iā€™m still on the same installation. I update daily, and am quite impressed with the turn-around time for getting packages into the main distribution from the time of the upstream changes. I think youā€™d be hard pressed to find another distribution with such efficient pipelines. This is perfect for a desktop for a person thatā€™s willing to deal with bleeding edge bugs (however I havenā€™t run into any so far honestly).

Iā€™d likely not run Arch on my servers, mainly due to the amount of tooling thatā€™s already available for other distributions. That being said, if there was ever a modern desktop OS for me itā€™s Arch Linux as it combines the functionality and ease-of-use of modern tooling and package management without compromising on user choice.

Lets touch back on this in another 6 months to see if I still feel the same way?