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Comment by ๐Ÿš€ skyjake

Re: "<NSFW> Smolweb NSFW Content"

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The tricky part is that there is a huge range here so there is no one way to approach this. NSFW content can be anything from fairly innocuous to absolutely vile and universally illegal. This means extra emphasis must be placed on moderating such content in places where it is user-submitted.

The most problematic content (videos, large images) is fortunately non-optimal to share over Gemini, so that should provide some protection against the worst offenders.

๐Ÿš€ skyjake

Jul 05 ยท 6 months ago

Poll Results

1. Encourage NSFW Content As What (Some) People Want

โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ– 21%

2. Discourage NSFW Content As Unwanted And Harmful

โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ– 11%

3. Let It Grow If It Wants To

โ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–ˆโ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ–โ– 68%

53 votes were cast.

8 Later Comments โ†“

๐Ÿ Addison ยท Jul 05 at 04:19:

Content moderation of that kind places an inordinate mental and legal burden on platform hosts... Invitation-only access to the platform is the only means of lessening that burden as far as I can tell. There's a difficult conversation to be had there.

๐Ÿ„ Ruby_Witch ยท Jul 05 at 09:00:

Moderation is definitely an issue, but most hosted Gemini/gopher sites have some pretty tight limitations in terms of storage space.

I think if someone wanted to have a site that consistently pushed boundaries of what is acceptable content they'd pretty much have to host it themselves. At that point it's less of a question of moderation and more of holding someone responsible for their actions.

๐Ÿš€ jsreed5 ยท Jul 05 at 12:54:

My only concern with it is the potential legal implications. Some countries might ban capsules, or the Gemini protocol itself, due to NSFW content being easily available. Other countries require an age gate or age verification for NSFW content. The only mechanism Gemini has to enforce such verification (that I'm aware of) is client certificates and server-side tracking of which certificates have consented.

๐Ÿงถ mouseless ยท Jul 06 at 09:25:

sexuality is part of life for so many people, and I think it's going to happen here anyways, even if there's a lot of pushback :P I'd love to encourage more adult spaces on gemini, but I also don't envy the people who would be moderating them.

With how gemini is, I predict most of it will be (is?) erotica, with less of an emphasis on images or videos.

๐Ÿง‡ Acidus ยท Jul 06 at 19:22:

A surprising amount of Pornhub content is gets proxied through the public Stargate proxy I run. The HTML-to-Gemtext actually works and extracts all the thumbnails images as image links... ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ™ˆ๐Ÿ˜„

โ€” gemi.dev/stargate.gmi

๐ŸŒ Mel ยท Jul 06 at 21:31:

@Acidus I suspect youโ€™re going to see even more now with people (such as myself ๐Ÿ˜…) trying it out out of morbid curiosity

๐Ÿ‰ gyaradong ยท Jul 07 at 09:19:

For me, good labeling is what matters most. I think having it sneak up isn't great but people who are ok with it should be able to find it.

๐Ÿ™‚ Strayce ยท Dec 22 at 08:56:

Like it or not, I don't think it can be stopped. Especially when anyone can just spin up a capsule or self-host. As soon as any new technology gets invented (especially in the communications space), people will start thinking "how can this be used for sex?".

The legal implications are definitely a concern. I guess moderation is key, but that's not something I have enough experience in to comment.

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โ€” <NSFW> Example of Erotica text files available on Gemini

<NSFW> Smolweb NSFW Content โ€” Maybe it's not what the internet was originally designed for, but NSFW content is definitely one of the driving forces on the "big" web. What NSFW content have you seen or do you predict that you will see on the smolweb? Should it be encouraged or looked down upon and censored? Or neither? As far as what I've seen, there are some BBS (the...

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๐Ÿ’ฌ Ruby_Witch ยท 11 comments ยท 3 likes ยท Jul 04 ยท 6 months ago ยท #NSFW ๐Ÿ—ณ๏ธ